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lpheathen (lpheathen@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Dec-2024 22:37:50 JST 
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@TrevorGoodchild
have you looked into the info on GLP1 stuff? thoughts?-
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Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Dec-2024 22:37:49 JST 
Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb:
@lpheathen No info on the long term side effects and the adverse short-term GI ones are significant. There's also the risk of permanent gastroparesis, although rare.
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Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Dec-2024 22:53:15 JST
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@AmonMaritza @lpheathen Fat People Hate remains eternally vindicated: in the before times the consensus in FPH was that none of the hamplanets really believed in bullshit like 'Healthy at Every Size' or 'real men like curves' and that if/when a medication to treat obesity hit the market they would waddle to get their meaty paws on it ASAP AlabasterBrick ?☠️ likes this. -
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Dec-2024 22:53:15 JST 
Bread up, Bro
@TrevorGoodchild @AmonMaritza @lpheathen what makes me the most angry is looking at women where I can see they would have a pretty jawline if they lost 30 pounds, and could and WOULD in a culture wasn't a shithole. -
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AmonMaritza (amonmaritza@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Dec-2024 22:53:16 JST 
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Trevor, it’s a fat pill in a world where no one actually believes big is beautiful. -
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Dec-2024 23:03:16 JST
Bread up, Bro
@TrevorGoodchild @AmonMaritza @lpheathen The problem is we both know it's skin off your back and mine. Because it's always the white man who has to fix things. The good timeline is only when people appreciate it. -
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Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Dec-2024 23:03:17 JST
Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb:
@sickburnbro @AmonMaritza @lpheathen Look, man, if people want to give themselves an injectable combo of eating disorder and malabsorption, it's no skin off my back. At the very least I'll see fewer couch bisons when I step out -
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Dec-2024 23:30:49 JST
Bread up, Bro
@TrevorGoodchild @Tripp @AmonMaritza @lpheathen interestingly, they did studies on this, in the early 60s, I think - and you must have a near starvation diet to cause the body to start shedding weight from caloric restriction alone. -
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Graf von Tripp (tripp@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Dec-2024 23:30:50 JST 
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@TrevorGoodchild @AmonMaritza @lpheathen This will never not be funny. -
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Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Dec-2024 23:30:50 JST
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@Tripp @AmonMaritza @lpheathen "Doc, tell me what to eat to lose weight."
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jan-2025 00:13:01 JST
Bread up, Bro
@petra @TrevorGoodchild @Tripp @AmonMaritza @lpheathen indeed, you can achieve weight loss by things like interval fasting. But specifically what they have shown is that your body will tend to compensate by you being more sedentary when you simply cut calories.
The reason I say this is I don't want people to say losing and maintaining weight is EASY - because it can be hard or tricky for some people. When you assume it is easy, it fosters an environment where you can just ignore those that have a hard time.
I want an environment where everyone is healthy. -
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petra (petra@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jan-2025 00:13:02 JST 
petra
@sickburnbro @TrevorGoodchild @Tripp @AmonMaritza @lpheathen I've lost 20-30 lbs twice in the past by calorie restriction. I was overweight but not quite into obese territory. Both times I found it was just getting used to feeling hungry. Something few of us experience today. It took about a week to get used to it and I could just go without eating through the day OK and then have an evening meal.
It's mostly a mental thing. But I did get that preoccupation with food thing at the beginning. It's an interesting experience. -
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petra (petra@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jan-2025 00:46:48 JST
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@sickburnbro @TrevorGoodchild @Tripp @AmonMaritza @lpheathen Yes. I didn't mean that was the best way to do it. It just happened to suit my nature. I got tired of the extra weight and just said, Screw it. I'm losing it.
It only took a few months and I started going to the gym regularly as well towards the end. I felt great. No urge to eat for the sake of eating. Solid sleep. Clear mind.
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jan-2025 01:16:43 JST
Bread up, Bro
@TrevorGoodchild @petra @Tripp @AmonMaritza @lpheathen it's more than just that - when you lower calorie consumption, your body naturally tries to modulate your activity. This makes sense, as when food because scarce, those that were best at preserving their energy reserves would naturally survive better.
This is why it's easier to focus on having people simply cut out the high glycemic index foods, which allow you to easily consume more than you need, and make up the difference with active exercise. -
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Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jan-2025 01:16:44 JST
Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb:
@sickburnbro @petra @Tripp @AmonMaritza @lpheathen Losing weight and maintaining the loss is simple (burn more than you consume). It is not easy for most. If it were, people wouldn't be lining up to chemically modify their GI tracts.
The good BMR/TDEE calculators take activity level into account. The problem is that people are very good at overestimating their levels of physical activity and underestimating their daily calorie consumption.
It can be difficult, but at the end of the day it is just math.
sailrabbit.com/bmr/ -
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Hertz (hertz@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jan-2025 01:16:51 JST 
Hertz
@TrevorGoodchild @sickburnbro @petra @Tripp @AmonMaritza @lpheathen One of the best thoughts that I got from FPH was to always assume my caloric input was higher than I thought it was and that my output was lower than thought. Then work to correct that. Bread up, Bro likes this. -
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Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jan-2025 01:25:26 JST
Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb:
@Hertz @sickburnbro @petra @Tripp @AmonMaritza @lpheathen This and "don't drink your calories" are the first heuristics I try to tell frens serious about cutting weight -
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CrustyB (crustyburgerhead@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jan-2025 01:25:26 JST 
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"Don't drink your calories" is no joke. When I broke my jaw I went on a liquid diet and I actually gained weight. Bread up, Bro likes this. -
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jan-2025 01:26:11 JST
Bread up, Bro
@CrustyBurgerhead @TrevorGoodchild @AmonMaritza @Hertz @Tripp @lpheathen @petra yes. cutting all soda is the easiest win you can get. cutting beer is a second. -
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CrustyB (crustyburgerhead@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jan-2025 01:53:43 JST
CrustyB
Not to mention financial benefits. I've read the people spend more money at grocery stores on booze than on food. Bread up, Bro likes this. -
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petra (petra@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jan-2025 01:53:44 JST
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@sickburnbro @CrustyBurgerhead @TrevorGoodchild @AmonMaritza @Hertz @Tripp @lpheathen Beer big time. It's remarkably easy to consume it regularly, approaching official alcoholic levels (it's not as much as you think), but still be able to function well enough in life.
Cutting it out was the best thing in terms of stupid calories in plus all the other health benefits of not drinking alcohol regularly. Mood, sleep, mental clarity, and appetite again.
An easy win. -
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BionicNigga, Raper of Waves 🌊 (bionicnigga@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jan-2025 02:29:02 JST 
BionicNigga, Raper of Waves 🌊
@TrevorGoodchild @sickburnbro @petra @Tripp @AmonMaritza @lpheathen I've heard that limiting caloric intake is more important than burning them at the gym because your body just re-budgets towards that exercise rather than things like inflammation (which is still good obviously). Is my understanding correct, or what would you have to comment on this? -
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Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jan-2025 02:29:02 JST
Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb:
@BionicNigga @AmonMaritza @Tripp @lpheathen @petra @sickburnbro The general rule is that weight loss is 75-80% dietary modification, and it is possible to cut significant amounts of weight with zero exercise, it's just going to be slow going.
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jan-2025 02:29:26 JST
Bread up, Bro
@TrevorGoodchild @BionicNigga @AmonMaritza @Tripp @lpheathen @petra all the "bulking phase" jokes should convince any naysayers
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