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   :blobcatflower: (methyltheobromine@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 15-Dec-2024 20:43:03 JST :blobcatflower:
   holding back my hot takes about gun prohibition :blobsweat:
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Dec-2024 20:43:01 JST Phantasm

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     @lucy Waffelkontrolle hiding behind your door.
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Dec-2024 20:43:13 JST Phantasm

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     @k4t3 @lucy We have our own problems that mostly aren't visible to others. The gun laws are possibly the only good remaining legislation that isn't cucked already and the only remaining reason why I still live here.
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     Kate (k4t3@comp.lain.la)'s status on Sunday, 15-Dec-2024 20:43:14 JST Kate

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     @lucy just adopt the czech model, it works out well enough over there..
     if the bad people get guns, it only makes sense to give guns to the good ones too, you still have to jump through shitloads of gatekeeping to actually buy one..
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     Oneesan succubus (lain@pleroma.soykaf.com)'s status on Sunday, 15-Dec-2024 21:01:14 JST Oneesan succubus

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     @lucy sometimes some german from chaos social or even normier instances comes into my @s and I have no idea how to deal with it
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     snacks (snacks@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 15-Dec-2024 21:02:13 JST snacks

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     @lucy insane weapon laws don't do shit
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     @lucy unless you're japan ig
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Dec-2024 21:02:48 JST Phantasm

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     @lucy @k4t3 Politically we are also completely fucked in similar ways. Years ago it mostly transformed into smear campaigns and putting blame on the opposition while doing absolutely nothing worthwhile.
     General living costs are slightly lower and the housing market is also less expensive. Owning an apartment or a house is still almost impossible in today's economy if you weren't born a millionaire.
     Energy costs are up ~30% since 2022 and probably will never drop down more as companies just saw an opportunity to milk people out of their money.
     Food prices are around the same as in Germany and sometimes even higher (high prices-big sales mentality)
     Salaries are almost exactly half of the Germans ones and most people live paycheck to paycheck.
     
     Unironically the best way to live here is to work in Germany/Austria near the border and own a house in the countryside.
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     @phnt @k4t3 sure but compare it with germany
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     @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz 'No Way to Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

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     @SuperDicq @lucy we have very restricitive gun laws in germany and are still pretty high up i the rankings for shootings iirc
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     @SuperDicq @snacks snacks is german
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     @snacks @SuperDicq don't even try to argue with german normies lol
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     @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz Germany is not high in the rankings for shootings at all. You first have to go through the USA, the entirety of South America and most countries in Africa before any EU country even gets mentioned and then even within the EU Germany is very average.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 15-Dec-2024 21:18:24 JST 翠星石

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     @snacks @lucy Insane weapon laws don't do anything against those with a will, the skill and a hardware store (or a scrapyard, or even just a dumped car), even in Japan.
     
     The main thing that actually prevents improvised firearms is that incompetent manufacture or packing too much powder tends to result in an explosion that injures or kills the operator.
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     @snacks @SuperDicq @lucy I mean, makes sense, because lawmakers apparently cannot fathom the idea of a black market.
     If the attacker can't get it legally, of course they will find illegal ways.
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     @snacks @SuperDicq @lucy Do people not know how many illegal guns come through the border? (i do mean guns)
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     @phnt@fluffytail.org @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz Lets get rid of the traffic lights because people can just ignore the traffic lights. What were these stupid lawmakers thinking?

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     @SuperDicq @lucy america has a massive problem ofc, but there's european countries with high gun ownership rate and they don't turn into 3rd world shitholes because of it
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     @phnt @lucy @snacks Assault rifle? You mean the kinds of rifles that governments use in assaults, or just semi-automatic or 2 shot rifles?
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     @Suiseiseki @lucy @snacks Or if you live in Europe than there's a really friendly country that goes by the name Slovakia and a lot of people there will gladly sell you a factory deactivated assault rifle that is trivially easy to get operational again.
     
     For legal reasons I won't say more.
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 15-Dec-2024 21:32:25 JST Fish of Rage

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     @SuperDicq @snacks @lucy for fun compare homicides per 100k in european countries against just white americans. still not even close to germany, but lower than hungary.
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     @sun @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks
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     @phnt @lucy @snacks Tbh, full-auto is kind of useless unless you are a military and want to carry out your daily activity of firing into a crowd of innocents.
     
     If you have a single target, you either hit it in 1 or 2 or 3 shots and any more shots are extremely likely to miss.
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     @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz True, everyone wishes to could be Switzerland.
     
     I can agree gun control laws aren't the ideal solution to stop shootings. But gun control laws do work and we should keep them in place until we fix every other problem.
     
     If you want to get rid of gun control laws you first have to get rid most reasons why shootings happen. Like you have to make sure that all of your citizens are above the poverty line and people with mental illness actually get the help they need.
     
     Really you just have to make your country awesome in a way that nobody has any reason to commit crime. After all that is taken of maybe we can talk about removing gun control.

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     @Suiseiseki @lucy @snacks I mean a real military fully automatic rifle.
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     @Suiseiseki @phnt @lucy semi auto pistols are prob the most useful kind of weapon for most stuff, but they're not cool. Gimme my mauser now
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     @SuperDicq @snacks @lucy Alright this isn't worth my time.
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     @bonifartius @dcc @SuperDicq @lucy @sun dw, we outlawed cars that don't break automatically
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     @dcc @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks @sun should be about homicide numbers in general anyway. in germany or wherever with restrictive laws people just use knives, cars, hammers, axes, etc.

     only difference is that people attacked can't defend properly.

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     @bonifartius @SuperDicq @dcc @lucy @sun well, selling them
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     @bonifartius @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks @sun That was going to be my second point.
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     @dcc @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks @sun https://gundigest.com/article/homicide-not-the-guns
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     @mrsaturday@shitposter.world @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz The US is also very much part of the reason why Mexico is run by cartels, you could've prevented this.
     
     And yeah I do think that for the US introducing European style gun control laws at this point it's definitely too late for that now. There are too many guns already out there and people are not going to give them up.

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     @SuperDicq @snacks @lucy We have a 3000 km border with a country run by organized crime that specializes in smuggling contraband and according to most EU fans and a major political party here, controlling what goes in and out of said border would make us racist. You're deluding yourself if you think a ban would have more than a small impact in the US. We tried to ban alcohol in 1919, and as a consequence, made the mafia so rich and powerful that we had to spend the rest of the 20th century trying to get them under control.
     
     Just like with public transportation, things are very different here. What works in a country with a more servile nature and extremely well-behaved neighbors like Germany won't necessarily work in the US.
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     @Suiseiseki @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks @sun No mention of illegal weapons is funny, but yea thats the article.
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     @SuperDicq @snacks @lucy Yeah, the boomers could have not gone on a coke bender all through the 70s and 80s. It wouldn't shock me in the least if there was CIA involvement as well, just like with crack in black neighborhoods.
     
     It was never going to happen. The people that decided how this country was going to work from the beginning said that taking guns away is how you get controlled from above, and up until the death of the Old West, immigrants were by and large Europeans that got tired of being subject to the local lord's every whim.
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     @dcc @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks @sun >Look at school stabbings in China.
     >The death rate seems to be sometimes the same as the typical US school shooting.
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China?useskin=monobook
     
     Taking the firearms and the death penalty doesn't seem to be that effective at preventing crazy people from murdering others.
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     @amerika @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks @sun Aka the dad's :alex_smile:
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     @dcc @sun @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks
     
     It's the genetics
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     @amerika @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks @sun No, the 70% single mother rate lol.
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     @dcc @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks @sun
     
     "It's the Dads" as a media riff generally refers to the Moynihan Report, nu?
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     @amerika @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks @sun >the welfare state is responsible for the poverty
     So no not the same thing, lol.
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     @dcc @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks @sun
     
     Yes, that's the same thing.
     
     https://www.dol.gov/general/aboutdol/history/webid-moynihan
     
     Used to argue that the welfare state is responsible for the poverty of nowadays Negroes.
     
     I think it explains about half of the issue.
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     @bonifartius @dcc @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks @sun
     
     > only difference is that people attacked can't defend properly
     
     How is it worse having to defend yourself with a knife against a knife vs. having to defend yourself with a gun against a gun.
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     @taylan @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks @bonifartius @sun Whats worse than you only having nothing and the other guy with a "illegal gun"
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     @dcc @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks @bonifartius @sun
     
     What if you only have a legal gun and the other guy illegally possesses army-grade weaponry?
     
     The obvious response to this is "why the fuck is that even a thing?" You don't wanna get into an arms race with criminals; you want such criminals to simply not exist. Gun control laws are one very crude and superficial element of that, but of course don't solve the real problems. If I remember correctly, Norwegian civilians are armed to the teeth but they have low rates of violent crime.
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     @taylan @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks @bonifartius @sun >army-grade weaponry
     If you shoot a guy in the head he is dead, unless you mean they have explosives (hard to kill a guy with them at a whim)
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     @dcc
     > it's the dads

     It's always bizarre how everyone inherently knows what the problem is re crime in the United States, but nobody wants to say it directly. Nobody is allowed to point at the elephant in the room---the elephant which everyone knows is there---and state "hey, guys, what about this elephant?".
     @sun @lucy @snacks @SuperDicq

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     @taylan @dcc @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks @bonifartius @sun
     
     "you want such criminals to simply not exist"
     
     <3 Eugenics <3
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     @amerika @dcc @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks @bonifartius @sun
     
     Sure, let's just immediately ditch human rights to fight crime. Let's also implement universal surveillance to prevent digital crimes, for example. Nothing could go wrong.
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     Infantile. Imbecilic.
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     @taylan @sun @SuperDicq @snacks @dcc @lucy easy, with a gun you don't need to get in close.

     additionally knive wounds are frequently more deadly than bullets.

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     @bonifartius @sun @SuperDicq @snacks @dcc @lucy
     
     > with a gun you don't need to get in close
     
     Neither does the criminal, lol.
     
     > knive wounds are frequently more deadly than bullets
     
     [statistics needed]
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     @taylan @sun @SuperDicq @snacks @dcc @lucy criminals will have guns anyway, so having these restrictive gun laws is letting a tiny percentage of people, criminals, dictate what others can do.

     i won't dig out statistics right now, but knive wounds tend to bleed much more as the hole is bigger.

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     @adachi @Cyrillic @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks @mrsaturday >Where do you think ILLEGAL weapons come from? Legal manufacturers, obviously.
     That entirely depends. Many illegal weapons come from legal manufacturers, but many criminals just set themselves up a factory that churn out high quality pistols and the like, as all you need to make high quality firearms is standard machining tools like a lathe and a NC or CNC and reasonable quality metal (with a computerized CNC, you can shove a few blocks of metal in and get out a perfect clones of whatever firearm parts you want and then you just add rifling with a lathe and add the rest of the vitamins (springs are trivial to source) and end up with a perfectly functional firearm).
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     @mrsaturday @SuperDicq @lucy @snacks @Cyrillic
     So many baseless assumptions here lmao.
     
     >We have a 3000 km border with a country run by organized crime that specializes in smuggling contraband
     Mexico isn't 'run by organized crime' exactly. It's extremely corrupt, but to pretend like it's an adversary and not an ally to America is crazy. Yes, of course cartels smuggle drugs across the border, but you think they're planting drugs on immigrants, wait up to years for their claims to be accepted (or rejected) to get them into America? Or do you think they just use like, vehicles or something lol? smuggling drugs is probably far easier than you think.
     
     >and according to most EU fans and a major political party here, controlling what goes in and out of said border would make us racist.
     Delusional. Nobody says this. You're probably mean 'turning away refugees at the border is racist' which I'd say sorta. It's kinda retarded, I don't think you know just how much of the US economy is backed on 'illegal' migrants.
     
     >You're deluding yourself if you think a ban would have more than a small impact in the US
     Where do you think ILLEGAL weapons come from? Legal manufacturers, obviously. If you banned all production of guns, and started rounding up and collecting guns, the gun pool would consistently get smaller.
     
     >We tried to ban alcohol in 1919, and as a consequence, made the mafia so rich and powerful that we had to spend the rest of the 20th century trying to get them under control.
     firstly, banning alcohol is just retarded. we've drank it for all of human history in basically every country ever. no way that'd ever work.
     Secondly, you can't pretend like enforcement of it was very good. many police were paid off, and they weren't tough enough on this organized crime.
     
     >Just like with public transportation, things are very different here. What works in a country with a more servile nature and extremely well-behaved neighbors like Germany won't necessarily work in the US.
     TL;DR "Europoors are SISSY CUCKS and chad freedom lovin' Americans are too freedom lovin' to have their guns taken away, plus i need a gun to protect me from NIGGERS"
     Where to even begin. The US west was practically founded on the railway, 'public' transport was how you went across the country, as well as inner city travel till like, 1910's when the (((automobile))) came to be. It'd totally work in America, it's just government and automobile companies have conspired to make not using a car in America IMPOSSIBLE. leveling half of cities for car parks and large motorways.
     
     Germans aren't 'servile' either, what an odd assumption to make. Public infrastructure has very little to do with the social attitudes of people.
     And guess what? I bet if EVERYONE, rich or poor, had to ride the metro people would eventually become more friendly. Lemme blow your mind; what if Americans are so atomized because of suburbs and single family travel?
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     @taylan @bonifartius It seems plausible that a single deep knife wound is often more deadly than a single bullet, as the knife hole is bigger, but generally a firearm is used to punch many holes rather than just one.
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     @adachi >taking up an extra level your average gang member wouldn't?
     Your average gang member probably won't have much issue with purchasing an illegal firearm to order from such illegal manufacturers.
     
     >Suddenly you think of pizza.
     Really makes you think.
     
     >it's very easy to make and distribute.
     It's more difficult for criminals to acquire children than to acquire machinery.
     
     pizza has only harmful usages, while firearms have some harmless usages.
     
     >Guns would reduce if you banned them outright, and that's just a fact.
     If you banned them outright, the only ones that would have firearms would be governments, militaries and criminals, which are far, far more likely to shoot you than civilians who generally don't go and murder people.
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     You understand though that you're already taking up an extra level your average gang member wouldn't? It's like saying we shouldn't ban CP because it's very easy to make and distribute.
     Guns would reduce if you banned them outright, and that's just a fact.
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     @Suiseiseki @lucy @snacks youtube.com/watch?v=48hEoILwVpQ& Printing too, Heard of this thing from Touhou of all places, as Sumireko uses one.
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     @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired >ERROR: [youtube] 48hEoILwVpQ: Sign in to confirm your age. This video may be inappropriate for some users.
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