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@rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran WHICH HEAVEN, CELESTIAL OR PARADISIACAL
AND YOU CAN ALREADY SEE THE PROBLEM HERE, TWO LATIN WORDS FOR ONE ENGLISH WORD
SKY HEAVEN IS THE PLACE WHERE SPIRITS ROAM
BECAUSE SPIRITS ARE BODILESS, THE IMAGE IS OF THEM DWELLING AND MOVING IN THE EMPTY SPACES BETWEEN THINGS
WHICH IS WHY THE DEVIL GETS CALLED "THE PRINCE OF AIR" AND SPIRITS GET DEPICTED AND IMAGED AS BIRDS, AND WHY ANGELS HAVE WINGS IN ICONOGRAPHY
BOTH THE GUY WITH WINGS ONES AND THE MESS OF WINGS WITH A FACE STICKING OUT ONES AND THE VARIOUS GRIFFINS AND HIPPOGRIFFS AND WINGED LIONS
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@MeBigbrain @nugger @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran A certain level of ecumenical tolerance amongst true allies is called for when we stand against a united enemy. Those who are willing to consider sabotaging their brothers for perceived personal gain are doing the work of the evil one. Look to the march for life and other pro-life related causes for an example of how we can come together for a united cause despite varied beliefs amongst ourselves. Those unwilling to put that aside deserve extreme scrutiny and are not to be fully trusted. I'd rather ally with a hypothetical person who openly states "after we remove satanism from the government, we're coming after Catholics and Orthodox" than a snake who pretends he's tolerant while scheming and plotting to sabotage the entire time.
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@nugger @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran Love you too brother
But this is exactly what it is about slavs in the moobment that I don't like.
I know many "race before religion" bros be like "Put aside the crusades until later, focus on saving the race right now," but I see you. You aren't waiting. You, Orthos, Catholics, slavs, and even Muslims would very much like America to emerge from the chaos as yet another state for their religion rather than try to restore the American identity and then convert it later. But that's MY identity. The identity of MY ancestors, the people who made this land great once. Striking while we are weak makes you yet another enemy to me, an outsider who would erase my culture and replace it with yours. I want to accept you as a brother but not if you're going to put a knife in my back. Protestant faiths may be varied and different but they tolerate each other, they understand that they are simply different traditions and cultures. I would tolerate Orthos and even Catholics but I can see that they would not extend that courtesy to me.
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@MeBigbrain @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran YOU TOO ARE A NIGGER
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@MeBigbrain @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran FUCKIN A WILL I HAVE AN ONLINE DEBATE ABOUT WHERE I RANK IN RELATION TO MEXICANS
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@nugger @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran >"WOOOOAH YOU ARE A REAL CHRISTIAN AND A SECOND GENERATION IMMIGRANT? ME TOO, ESÉ!"
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@MeBigbrain @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran LOOK IM SORRY IF THIS OFFENDS YOU, BUT THE VERY FOUNDATIONAL PRINCIPLES OF PROTESTANT THEOLOGY SUCH AS WORKS FAITH DISTINCTION ARE JUST BLATANTLY NOT TRUE
MUSLIMS SAYING THE CHRISTIAN TRINITY IS "THREE GODS, GOD JESUS AND MARY" TIER OF MISUNDERSTANDING DUE TO LACK OF INFORMATION
I LOVE YOU GUYS, AND I SPAKE MANY TIMES OF HOW I CONSIDER IT ALL AS A NATIVE RELIGION TO BE CHRISTIANIZED
BUT I CANNOT LIE TO MYSELF AND OTHERS ABOUT THE VERY NATURE OF TRUTH HIMSELF
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@Moist_Ratstein @MeBigbrain @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran YEAH BUT THEY'RE WRONG
WE MUST DEPORT ANYONE WHO ISNT A HARDLINE PURITAN CALVINIST
THE SOUTHERN BAPTISTS AND NONDENOMS GO FIRST
LUTHERANS SECOND, TAWNY HESSIANS OCCUPYING ANGLO LANDS
EPISCOPALIAN AND PRESBYTERIAN CHURCHES OUGHT TO BE DYNAMITED UNLESS THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND IS WILLING TO SHELL OUT FOR THEIR HERETICAL CULT COVENS
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@nugger @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran Lots of Ortho pilpul I see
Show me where the Ortho colony in America was. If they're just a bunch of johnny-come-latelies then they're marginally better than Mexicans.
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@MeBigbrain @nugger @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran Why?
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@Moist_Ratstein @nugger @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran Because I said "American"
Orthos have Greece and Russia.
Catholics have Italy and South America (lol)
USA is Protestant, for all the good and bad that comes with that. That's who made the country, that's who we are. I don't make the rules, that's just how it is.
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@MeBigbrain @nugger @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran Seems like there's hundreds of different Protestant variations, though.
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@nugger @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran This is what we've been missing: cool mountain. I propose the new American Christian Cool Mountain be in Appalachia.
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@MeBigbrain @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran WAY AHEAD OF YOU, HOLY CROSS MONASTERY ARE ALREADY THERE
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@nugger @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran >ortho
Disqualified
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@rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran NOW HISTORICALLY SPEAKING GODS LIVED ON TOP OF MOUNTAINS
MOUNTAINS ARE REMOTE, INHOSPITABLE, AND THEY ARE LIKE A MATERIAL REALM PENINSULA JUTTING UPWARDS INTO THE GREAT SEA OF STARS
SO ITS PERFECT
NOW OF COURSE ITS NOT LIKE FUJI OR OLYMPUS OR ZEPHON OR ANY OTHER MOUNTAINS WHERE THE DIVINE HOST WAS THOUGHT TO RESIDE -- ACTUALLY HAD A WALL AROUND THEM
THERE WERE JUST REGULAR ASS SHEPHERDS GRAZING THEIR FLOCK ON THE SLOPES OF OLYMPUS BACK IN THE CLASSICAL PERIOD
THEY KNEW THAT IF YOU CLIMB THE MOUNTAIN YOU DONT JUST SHOW UP AT ZEUSES DOORSTEP BECAUSE THE MOUNTAIN AS VIEWED FROM AFAR AND THE MOUNTAINTOP YOU'RE STANDING ON ARE EXPERIENTIALLY TWO RADICALLY DIFFERENT SPACES
ITS WHY FUJIYAMA HAS THIS SWOOPY PARABOLOID SHAPE IN OLD FRESCOS, STARTING AT GRADE AND ENDING UP NEAR VERTICAL
ITS CAUSE ITS SACRED AND OFF LIMITS
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@rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran UHHHH IM LAZY
OK MOSES COMES UP ON MT TABOR, ENTERS THE DIVINE COUNCIL, SPEAKS WITH JESUS "FACE TO FACE AS A MAN SPEAKS TO HIS FRIEND", COMES BACK DOWN, BUILDS THE TABERNACLE FULL OF IMAGERY HE SAW IN THE DIVINE COUNCIL
SOLOMON BUILDS TEMPLE LIKEWISE DECORATED WITH POMEGRANATE TREES AND ANGELS ALL OVER THE WALLS
DITTO SECOND TEMPLE, DITTO CHURCHES TODAY
BECAUSE ITS A PLACE WHERE GOD IS, WHERE GOD BREACHES INTO YOUR EXPERIENCE OF REALITY, AND THEREFORE IT LOOKS THE PART
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@rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran RN THE ACTUAL MOUNTAIN OF DIVINE ASSEMBLY IS MT HELEN IN GREECE IIRC, BUT PEOPLE SELDOM CARE BECAUSE AFTER THE INCARNATION ALL AUTHORITY WAS GIVEN TO JESUS CHRIST
HE IS PRESENT IN EVERY CHURCH AND SO THE DISTINCTION OF A COOL MOUNTAIN IS NOT A POINT OF CONCERN FOR PEOPLE
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@rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran PARADISE IS THAT PLACE WHERE GOD DWELLS
OURS FAMOUSLY HAS A CHARIOT FOR A THRONE, TO SHOW THAT HE CAN MOVE AROUND ANYWHERE
MULTIPLE PLACES WERE PARADISE THROUGHOUT HISTORY, INCLUDING MARY THE MOTHER OF GOD
YOUR LIFE MAY BECOME OR AT LEAST BEGIN TO BECOME A PARADISE IF YOU EVER CHOOSE TO COOPERATE WITH GOD
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@SuperLutheran @MeBigbrain @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus THERE IS NO LANGUAGE FOR THE TWO OF US TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IN
I CANNOT EASILY HOP THE WALL OF CATEGORICAL SYSTEMATIZED THEOLOGY THAT YOU HAVE BUILT AROUND YOUR IMAGE OF GOD, I WOULD NEED A LADDER TEN MDIVS LONG TO SCALE IT
I DO RECOMMEND THE BOOK I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE THREAD
ITS A DRY ACADEMIC STUDY OF HISTORICAL SOURCES BUT IT IS FROM WITHIN THE WORLD OF PROTESTANT NEW TESTAMENT SCHOLARSHIP SO THE LANGUAGE GAP SHOULD BE NO ISSUE
AND ITS A BELLWETHER FOR WHERE THAT FIELD HAS BEEN GOING FOR THE LAST FIFTY YEARS
WHICH GIVES ME HOPE THAT THERE WILL BE A MUTUALLY INTELLIGIBLE DIALECT OF ENGLISH BETWEEN THE TWO OF US SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE
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@nugger @MeBigbrain @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus Oof chief this ain't it. A non-systematized theology ought not cast stones at those with actual categories. A denomination with no official soteriology ought not judge those that actually thought about these things
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@MeBigbrain @nugger @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran >Feels like shots being fired at someone in this conversation.
Not my intention at all, I promise you. I literally did not read the thread at all until after I replied to your post, as is my style.
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@BowsacNoodle @nugger @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran Feels like shots being fired at someone in this conversation. (Don't like that because it's either me or someone else here and I love you all.) (I agree though)
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@BowsacNoodle @nugger @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus Actually to expand on the tolerance bit, I don't even mean that as a short term tactical choice, I mean Prots really just coexist. Maybe @SuperLutheran could tell me different, but the attitude people around me had growing up was that Lutherans and Baptists and Methodists etc were all Christians and none of them thought the others were going to Hell just because they attended a different church. You needed to be a really out-there sect like Mormons to not be accepted in the American Christian mainstream back when that was a real thing. There was debate about JFK being a Catholic president (spooky and foreign) but most Protestant denominations didn't get scrutinized too hard.
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@MeBigbrain @nugger @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus >the attitude people around me had growing up was that Lutherans and Baptists and Methodists etc were all Christians and none of them thought the others were going to Hell just because they attended a different church.
That was my experience as well. Catholics were fake Christians and general Chick tract type stuff. I believed all that, and 25 years ago I'd have been on fedi calling Catholics heretical Pharisees with the best Protestant 💩 posters. I still have a hard time sitting silently and accepting ignorant declarations from people (in the abstract, NOT related to anyone in particularor to this discussion) without at least trying to politely explain why they're misinformed. FWIW, I've had nothing but awesome conversations with @SuperLutheran and he's answered a ton of questions for me regarding Luther's views and why traditional Protestant beliefs arrive at specific conclusions without ever being rude or belittling. I'm at the point where all I want to see is a restoration of the remnant of real Christians as the dominant voices in their respective churches. Nothing for denomination wars matters to me, provided my beliefs aren't being misrepresented by people who claim they know more than me about what I believe (this has happened too many times, and again is not about this conversation).
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@dictatordave @MeBigbrain @nugger @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran The devil has an interest in keeping Christians atomized and as blinded as possible. Whatever vector of convenience presents itself will be used. If jews were suddenly genie'd to their own planet, similar subversion would reappear through some other group looking for earthly power. Political Christian theocracy isn't immune to corruption any more than any specific church or congregation is, unfortunately.
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@BowsacNoodle @MeBigbrain @nugger @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran i wonder who could be behind the continual skism in christendom
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Alot of churches are wanting to unite right now under a common banner and that is a major problem. Mostly because they will accept each others heresy and witchcraft at the same time and just practice mystery religion together rather than actual Christianity.
One must make sure the other is actually sound biblically before yoking up with them.
Its one thing to overlook stuff like whether or not they think you have to take communion or do water baptism or (insert mundane tradition). It's another thing to yolk up to the circus of people who think they can release a God to do stuff, or declare and decree things into existence, or a man is a vicar of Christ, or whatever other nonsense is out there.
That is the major challenge today as I would wager most churches are pretty deeply compromised or at the very least unwilling to budge from tradition.
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@Omega_Variant @Griffith @rher @Crux_Invictus @MeBigbrain @Moist_Ratstein @SuperLutheran @dictatordave @nugger So this kind of gets to the point about how much of a challenge this is. It's basically impossible to not hellthread if I respond to this post how I genuinely feel. I don't think about the Pope, other than praying for him. I pray for a lot of people, including my enemies (admittedly not as much as I should), because that's what I believe I'm supposed to do. If you can't get past heterodoxies and insist that they're heresies that demand you treat me as an enemy, the problem is on your end.
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@Omega_Variant @dictatordave @Griffith @rher @BowsacNoodle @Crux_Invictus @MeBigbrain @Moist_Ratstein @SuperLutheran WAAAAIT A FUCKEN SECOND
IS THIS A HELLTHREAD
I PROMISED MOM TO AVOID STUFF LIKE THAT
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That's what I thought. Run along now and go ask your priest what to think.
🙄 Imbecile
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Really? You think so? Care to elaborate?
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@Omega_Variant @Griffith @rher @BowsacNoodle @Crux_Invictus @MeBigbrain @Moist_Ratstein @SuperLutheran @nugger no, i dont care to elaborate, faggot
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No clue, never heard of a clergy response team. Sounds cheesy
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@Omega_Variant @Griffith @rher @BowsacNoodle @Crux_Invictus @MeBigbrain @Moist_Ratstein @SuperLutheran @nugger you should look into it, because you talk a lot of shit straight from your ass without understanding the forces that are at work
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@Omega_Variant @BowsacNoodle @Griffith @rher @Crux_Invictus @MeBigbrain @Moist_Ratstein @SuperLutheran @nugger what is a clergy response team and why is knowing who they are in your local parish important
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@nugger @Omega_Variant @dictatordave @Griffith @rher @BowsacNoodle @Crux_Invictus @MeBigbrain @Moist_Ratstein @SuperLutheran nah nugs this is only a "heckthread", it's ok!
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@BowsacNoodle @Omega_Variant @Griffith @rher @Crux_Invictus @MeBigbrain @Moist_Ratstein @SuperLutheran @dictatordave @nugger
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Its not YOU. It's the church practice at large.
You may not but what about the church itself?
I'm not looking at it at person on person basis. If you noticed I put stuff from the NAR in there as well. You know, the ones who think they can release God to do stuff.
That is what they think as a whole. Sure you will have some in the mix that are probably just a long for the ride.
For the record I never have considered you an enemy, nor Lutheran. From what I can tell y'all are both brothers, just ones I think are in doctrinal error in spots. Though from a the few interactions we have had you don't seem to be the typical Catholic I come across, which is nice.
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@Omega_Variant @Griffith @rher @Crux_Invictus @MeBigbrain @Moist_Ratstein @SuperLutheran @dictatordave @nugger I appreciate the clarification and I apologize if I came across as hostile. I'm Eastern Catholic (functionally EO in communion with Rome), and we are different but it's not me trying to be a special boy or anything of the sort but an understanding from my own challenges and path. I have serious Christian friends IRL who are various denominations of Protestant, Eastern and Roman Catholics, and some EO. All of us recognize that one another are Christians even if we have our own preferences for practice. I don't believe anyone would turn down a prayer request from anyone else over it, which is kind of what I'm getting at here.
>The church at large problems
Dude they exist and they're huge. I'll criticize The Pope's "liberation theology" and apparent need for generating media click bait all day with you, even though I don't think he's the Antichrist (at least not this Pope). If I'm understanding the intention of your post (and PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong), would you see allying with Roman Catholics as tangentially supporting their church and consequently supporting a false doctrine, possibly analogous though maybe slightly less severe than allying with Muslims? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth here, I just don't understand where the drop off comes from besides stuff that's easy enough to settle via "GO TO ANOTHER CHURCH".
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@givenup @nugger @Omega_Variant @dictatordave @Griffith @rher @BowsacNoodle @Crux_Invictus @MeBigbrain @SuperLutheran How do you make that happen? I'm in a position like that where my friend has Parkinson's, cancer, and is in his 70s. I'm doing my best to help but right now he can still take care of himself for the most part, I'm more just his driver, tech support, and muscle. But when things decline I really don't know what I can do. I'm not a doctor and honestly I don't know if I have it in me to help him with bodily functions while watching him slowly die.
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@Moist_Ratstein @givenup @nugger @Omega_Variant @dictatordave @Griffith @rher @Crux_Invictus @MeBigbrain @SuperLutheran Fight for in home health aid rather than assisted living, especially if it's something you can be proactive about. Reach out to the local senior center or department of aging and see if you can get some accessibility tools, sometimes grant money for stuff like ramps and handrails and other stuff that can help prevent the need for skilled care for as long as possible. Preventing falls is a huge thing, because most nursing home type visits happen as a result of serious injury res and those most frequently come from falls in a lot of people.
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@nugger @Omega_Variant @dictatordave @Griffith @rher @BowsacNoodle @Crux_Invictus @MeBigbrain @Moist_Ratstein @SuperLutheran i kept hte only real promise i ever made, which was to make sure my grandpa didn't go to a nursing home before he died, i feel pretty good about that.
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Honestly a good thing, nursing homes are awful.
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@Omega_Variant @Griffith @rher @BowsacNoodle @Crux_Invictus @MeBigbrain @Moist_Ratstein @SuperLutheran @dictatordave @nugger i know, that's why i promised him, plus he made sure grandma lived with him and took care of her before she died, she died in this house, he died in this house, all my grandparents died in this house
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And add to it for your kids.
I hope I can leave my kids something.
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@Omega_Variant @Griffith @rher @BowsacNoodle @Crux_Invictus @MeBigbrain @Moist_Ratstein @SuperLutheran @dictatordave @nugger that's what i'd like to do, but htis property and land isn't enough for me anyway, and there's no odds of adding to it here, so i'd like to sell this and get something in the countryside with more property, and have a small farm to raise kids on and pass it along to.
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@Omega_Variant @Griffith @rher @BowsacNoodle @Crux_Invictus @MeBigbrain @Moist_Ratstein @SuperLutheran @dictatordave @nugger it's how shit's supposed to be
you take care of your elders they pass away at home, and you live on in the welath they accumulated
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That's both sweet and macabre.
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@BowsacNoodle @Moist_Ratstein @nugger @Omega_Variant @dictatordave @Griffith @rher @Crux_Invictus @MeBigbrain @SuperLutheran my grandpa got a ramp from the va, it's funny he va basicly didn't do shit for him his whole life till the last year of his life.
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I personally see the RCC as an outright enemy, not necessarily to myself, but to God.
Not all individuals in it necessarily but the church as a whole, if that makes sense. Most of that comes from their practices and the direction they are heading/have been heading for a long time.
I am not familiar enough with EO to really know where to stand with them. Tbh most of my focus has been on the RCC and the charismatic/NAR crowd. Them two groups are starting to want to shake hands, which is concerning.
As far as would I ally with them? Not at all, I wouldnt consider it any more than with a Muslim. Unless there were some massive changes.
Really, if you wanted to get the most accurate bead on my perspective you would have to watch the 3rd Adam series. But it's a total of 10 hours so I mean I don't usually expect people to watch it. There is a lot to unpack there.
Summed up, eastern mysticism and gnostic theology has heavily infiltrated the churches and that is what I take issue with. People are openly practicing it and not even caring. Like that post I made last night about yoga in a church. The fuck is yoga doing in a church? You are acting out the story of Hindu gods battling. It's nonsense and has no place.
Maybe I'm to serious about it, idk. I'm a very zealous person.
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@Omega_Variant @Griffith @rher @Crux_Invictus @MeBigbrain @Moist_Ratstein @SuperLutheran @dictatordave @nugger > I wouldnt consider it any more than with a Muslim. Unless there were some massive changes.
That's sort of what frustrates me, and it's the attitude I saw most of my life before converting. All I can tell you is the leity is far different than the church when it comes to things you probably hate, and most of the serious ones simply want the exact same goals as you. Maybe it's better to revisit what any type of alliance or coalition would look like rather than assume we're talking about the same things.
>Yoga in a church
Disgusting. You should argue against heresy and watch for subversion. I used to be a lot more accepting of things, but as I've watched the world degrade so heavily starting with the normalization of casual sex depicted in media I've really started to look at it differently.
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Yep I was right there with you with the "live and let live" attitude. 3 years ago is when I took a step back and go "hmm" and I'd say it's only accelerated since then.
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@Omega_Variant @Griffith @rher @Crux_Invictus @MeBigbrain @Moist_Ratstein @SuperLutheran @dictatordave @nugger Its a fine line for sure, but I felt like we made it okay so far. Everyone involved just has to be willing to take comments in stride and assume the other person isn't trying to offend them or dunk on their beliefs.
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Idk, I didn't think we were hellthreading. Thought it was a discussion 🤷
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@MeBigbrain @nugger @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran ??? Both sides of my family date back to emigrating here in the late 1700s
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@WoodshopHandman @MeBigbrain @nugger @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran Didn't you know, getting rid of immigrants means getting rid of ALL of them, "late 1700s" sounds very "post the founding of the country"
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@MeBigbrain @nugger @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran >I suspect you're French
German Pennsylvanian, actually
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@WoodshopHandman @nugger @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran Sad but typical. We're gonna have to send you back when we revoke birthright citizenship.
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@WoodshopHandman @nugger @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran Yes, I'm glad you understand.
America is in a very sorry state right now, I'm sure nobody here would argue with that. American Whites are in a vulnerable state, their future hangs in the balance. For an outside group to swoop in right now, seeking to convert people and change the identity of the American White, is subversive and predatory. It would be like preaching to someone on their deathbed when they already have religion, just not YOUR denomination of religion. Should a dying Lutheran have to spend his final moments being proselytized to by Catholics, Orthos, Muslims, and anyone else who wants to come in just because they sincerely believe? Should his family just let that happen? Why should I allow any foreigner, any invader, to shape my country? Just because they're White? Fuck them. America is not saved until American Whites control their own destiny.
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@MeBigbrain @nugger @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran Well I don't care too much about race and I'd really like to see America burn to the ground, so I am unfazed.
I DO think it would be nice to see men of the cloth trying to convert others on their deathbed to an extent. I'd like to see some fire in people's hearts for once. I don't see how trying to save someone's soul is "subversive" at all.
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@WoodshopHandman @nugger @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran It's fine, I understand we are not alike (I suspect you're French) and our tribes will probably never be friendly.
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@MeBigbrain @nugger @Moist_Ratstein @rher @Griffith @Crux_Invictus @SuperLutheran So let me get this straight: Even if an orthobro sincerely believes, with mind, body, and spirit, that his faith is correct and true and that you are going to be punished (to whatever extent) for following another denomination when you pass, he SHOULDN'T try to convince you to convert because protestants immigrated here (america) first? Am I reading that right?
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