@dansup@pixelfed Thank you, this has been my sense too, though I've been focused on the harassment angle. You put it more succinctly and are actually working on a solution - so again, thank you!
@inthehands@blogdiva@eveiswurzig@tchambers@evan Absolutely. And FWIW I don’t think it’s just about co-ops. Very familiar with their limitations - still sore a couple decades after I was pretty cruelly and unfairly kicked out of one during a depression crisis - but I digress.
What excites me even more is finding ways for non-coders to contribute to the design, features, and roadmap. Including, hopefully, a teaching component.
@blogdiva@eveiswurzig@tchambers@evan Hell yeah. I really believe we have this incredible chance to build something genuinely new here, and it can have implications for doing collective things beyond software.
A lot of people claimed that LLMs were making them 10x more productive, right? So I guess we should expect some pretty amazing things pretty soon. Can't wait to see what they all come up with.
This article is an embarrassment. Cites like two or three industry trade groups and a conservative think tank to build its case, and then finishes with a quote from an academic who says it's too soon to judge, and adds that Khan's hardly an outlier in a global context. https://techhub.social/@Techmeme/110698977393747491
@inthehands I'm actually more asking vis a vis harassment concerns - how unstoppable will the waves be, if the LoTT followers can just keep revolving door themselves new accounts. #threads
How trivial is it to sign up for a burner account on Instagram/ #Threads? I assume the answer is "very" but either way seems like an important data point.
@FinchHaven@notroot@tchambers@fediversenews It seems like we've entered a new phase where it no longer makes sense to talk about preemptive blocking like Threads is a mystery box. Threads is out there as an existing thing. I think it would be reasonable for mastodon.social and other big instances to condition federation upon removal of Libs of Tik Tok and accounts with similar track records.
I don't know if this is possible, but I feel like the whole G/O Media union should quit en masse and start new sites as worker coops. It's not gonna get better.
So I guess that leaves me thinking that as long as federation happens at all in the first place, it maybe doesn’t matter that much who defederates when after that? Once they taste blood they’ll be here, and we have to find better protections than obscurity. But I’ll stop here and invite people to jump in.
Round two: the Fediverse is once again more or less sealed off from Threads. But now we’re on LOTT’s radar. They start talking about the fediverse as a cesspool of groomers, probably conflate it with scare stories about the “CSAM problem”. It’s all too easy to imagine. They call on their followers to create accounts on Masto instances. Now what?
Well, a lot of things could happen, but let’s take two specific paths. There will be a ton of pressure on mastodon.social and other big instances to defederate from Threads. Either they do, or they don’t. Let’s say … they do.
Round 2B: Let’s say mastodon.social doesn’t defed from Threads after this first incident. (Assume they’d probably demand a concession from Meta, but maybe it’s a weak countermeasure.) I don’t know if it’s likely, but one can imagine LOTT Threads users start signing up for mastodon.social, and use that as the base for their next attack. I guess at that point mast.soc gets mass fediblocked. So now we’re split, and vulnerable.