@revk "OPSEC will get you through times of no crypto better than crypto will get you through times of no OPSEC."

@futurebird The serious CS types I've met regard writing actual code as way, way beneath them. But the relatively abstract and maths-heavy CS has become conflated with "learn the framework of the month, get a job" CS.

@mattblaze I think anti-inclusion and zero-sum thinking go together. "There isn't enough [stuff], so I want decisions to be made by people like me so that they will favour people like me."

@ColinTheMathmo @lambdasierra @david_chisnall Sadly it mostly turns out to be too computer for most humans and too human for computers.