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@kaia another thing that is great with me going Catholic, and dating Catholic is that for me no Sex (and sexual contact) being not allowed before marriage is a super good thing, i did consider how it helped me in that department.
i have made big leaps when it comes to my Gynophobia, i can talk to women pretty comfortably now, pretty much without stress, among groups of women i can handle myself too, maybe a bit awkward but it's nothing compared to being unable to breathe.
something that held me back from making any big moves is the fear of Bodily Contact (really anything beyond a handshake), if i actually start a relationship then i won't be able to, or fail to satisfy my partner, and the excuses would all be partially a failing of my initiative.
if i date Catholic, if there was a situation where she makes a move, i can just go to the Bible, and there it is, i can't do that before marriage, now i am fully convinced that that is wrong to do, and even if i were comfortable with that, then i shouldn't.
of course if i marry someone it would be because i am comfortable and trust them, and i did it of my own initiative and pure choice, that's for the best, not only for my mental health, but also for the Lord
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@kaia >sounds like you found a great place! choir is great idea.
it is insanely fun, especially since i was already looking to sing, but the feeling of community definitely is what makes it amazing here
>depending on whether you are looking for a partner, those older ladies can probably set you up as well
for a partner maybe in the future, if i do definitely after i get baptized (octobre), right now i am too focused on the faith itself, making sure i read up on the bible and research as much as i can, because if i get a partner now then it would probably distract me from the faith.
and i do wonder how appealing to women the concept of "Catholic Grandma approved Date" is, like sure they know i do firefighting and all that, but still i wonder if anybody takes that deal at all.
but for now i am still in the faith, and the focus is there for now, Dating can wait until after i properly set myself in the faith and started working proper
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@kaia oh it's Novus Ordo, but the priest keeps a good job when it comes to focus, it's always about the Faith, compared to when we visited a Evangelacist church which was very dry in actual "God", those ones exclusively were "you should be charitable i guess" but none of the other important lessons on the christian lifestyle.
my Parish is very fun to be in, it's an excellent time, i started participating a lot more in the parish since i joined the choir, and they were very welcoming, it's mostly elderly there, and they are very very happy to see someone young start to participate with the faith, especially since i have been taking the faith very seriously.
maybe a bit embarrassing, but they also called me "a Blessing" to have in the Parish.
when i started to participate regularly, slowly after attendance started to increase too, which i am happy that is happening.
i am not attributing it to me ofc, i think i am part of a more general shift within my generation, i was tired of secularism, individualism and Materialism, but i also did feel a need for God, and the more i read and learn the more i am convinced it is the truth.
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@kaia we sang that in the choir!
very fun to be in the choir
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super weird, i swear human pheromones are definetly a thing.
maybe only certain humans experience it.
i think guys don't wanna give their testimonies because there's pretty much no way to give your experience about it without sounding like a weirdo.
i've always had good smell, unironically helped with my first firefighter deployement when we tried to find a fire.
i guess if i had to describe it, there is no smell, but it immedietly gives you a sort of an idea, one time i even talked to a woman and almost said "congratulations on your pregnancy" when i shouldn't have known that and she was only in the first period when it's not visible, i was even surprised myself how i knew it
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Gm frens, wishing you brothers another blessed and friday, may the Lord be with you
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@BowsacNoodle @newt for me i always stood on top when it was with other boys, but when girls started to bully me, it just fucked me up man, with other boys eventually i'd just have enough of it and beat them, but with girls it was different.
it was not like i was chivalrous or smthn, to me it was like a rule in my soul that "you never hit girls", which basically meant i didn't know how to retaliate against things like peer pressure and such, the most evil one had me do some very shameful things, i hate her so much man.
it's shameful but took me a while to start being able to look at women face to face, for a while i wasn't even able to breathe if i was too close to one.
thankfully i can talk to them fine now, my Conversion to Christianity helped me a lot with that ngl, since not only am i aware of how God protects me, but also since i am a Christian now i don't have to worry about anything sensual until after marriage and use that as a shield, unironically such a strong gift when it comes to this
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@BowsacNoodle @newt man i was shit on so much and eventually gaslit into being told "that's wrong, you shouldn't do that", but thinking back on it i would do it again, in 4th grade there was this kid pulling shit all the time, i just punched him in the nose, after fucking weeks of bullshit, the feeling of my fist hitting his face, the back of his head bouncing on the wall he was just behind, and then immedietly him collapsing and shaking his legs everywhere, while covering his face and screeching, it was like i held a piss for hours and finally got to let it out.
i know it's a pleasure that now as an adult i shouldn't try to enjoy, but that was so satisfying thinking back to it, in general, i hate hurting other people, i tend to feel bad about it, but that was the feeling of justice there, there he fucking goes crying like a pussy to the teacher while i stand there justified, i didn't care how harshly i got punished, i was entirely justified there and i didn't care how others felt about it
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@newt >tell teacher one kid is always bullying me
>he does fuck all
>eventually get sick of it and kick him down stairs, when he stops rolling i kick him again until he reached the bottom
>end up stuck in a school with the scum of the earth
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i will have to apply for jobs soon, HR is pretty much always women, so putting this into consideration i made some important notes for my approach, i will be focusing on my strengths:
- make my professional skills list way too wordy and difficult for a woman to read so she immedietly doesn't read it and doesn't figure out i am middle of the road
- make sure to scale up my picture in my resume
- put the fact that i do singing and firefighting into my list of hobbies
- in the application also mention that i am single, and i really really love Older Office ladies completely randomly
i think this will improve my chances, what do you think?
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@blueknightfrank idk why everytime i scroll by this the way the tie and hair makes it look like miku got giant tits
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@Kyou @BadFediPosts i know this is hypocritical when i just did that myself, but full honesty dudes are fucking stupid because they can't ever imagine themselves as victims unless they end up one, even if they -wanted- it back then (and still find them attractive today).
all that has to really happen to change their mind is the elimination of choice by either by physical force or coercion, women can pretty much never overpower a boy during puberty, and people usually don't understand the concept that they can be coerced and convinced that they want to do something when in reality they don't want to.
coercion doesn't even have to be by an adult either, i got coerced into doing stupid shit by girls my age, they did it because they thought they could do it and get away with it, not because of any actual feelings they had towards me.
it's easy for a grown up man to want to live out his oneeshota fantasies because men don't have much imagination and just want le braindead sex, (altho it is funny to joke about it ngl)
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good morning friends, i shall shave and become once again the dazzling young man i am
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@CapitalB @sun eh, it's not so bad, i think it does build a level of patience, if i can handle the sheer amount of bullshit i experienced with my (first) sister i can handle anything.
one of the things i remember when we were both quite young, like i was 14 and she was 10, was when we were eating once, she finished eating the bread on her plate, THEN she later saw that she was out of bread and immedietly accused me of eating her bread...
i mean she was quite young at the time and she got angry super quickly, we get along well today, and we mostly look back on those times with laughter.
the only thing that lead to problems tho was that she always has this thing in the way that she talks, in that you always think she is angry, just today, if she is laughing she is definetly laughing, but if she is not doing that you'd think she's angry all the time.
just today she actually came into my room to tell me happy birthday, and the way she looked at me initially i thought i argered her and was gonna get a talking to lmao.
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@sun depends on the age gap, the bigger it is the nicer the experience.
my sister is 13 years younger than me, my parents decided to take a date vacation by themselves (we stayed at our aunts house for a week) one day and BEHOLD: suddenly out of nowhere for no reason my mom is pregnant.
really, if the age gap is small you WILL argue all the time with each other, kicking and screaming and everything.
but my second sister is much younger than me and is extremely sweet, i essentially act as a second male role model
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just got reminded how my sister really shares my blood and flesh.
you know that fucked up spine thing i posted earlier, where i can turn 220 degrees from hip to shoulder?
my sister can do it too, and even better, she can do like 230 degrees
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@nyanide >perform sexual acts in the bathroom for twenny bucks
one girl offered to pay me to let her give me a blowjob, some girls do be that desperate
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@SuperDicq @thatbrickster
>Absolutely not. I think Christianity has ruined many lives throughout history and I believe the world would be a much better place without it.
for the sins that the church did throughout The ages, which went against the new Covenant, i will agree, however, on the doctrine itself i think it has been a boon to both society and the Individual.
but of course, the Church is not without fault, especially on the clerical side, Individual Priests throughout the ages have done Harm to people, but every time they did, it was also against the Will of God, perhaps fueled by a wish to fulfill it, but still against the teaching, but also to remember, they are still a minority, they exist, but they are a minority, they are not representative of Priests in general.
>I hate the entire concept of organized religion just as much as some people on here hate the concept capitalism or fascism.
i would respect that attitude more if it was backed up by either proper evidence that it is ineffective or harmful, or if it goes against the Teachings.
also to note, that one of the things that ultra-capitalism prospers with, is Individualism, in a collective Society there would be proper guard rails for an economic system to make sure that the Individual can't harm the Collective for the pointless pursuit of Pure Greed.
>You shouldn't dedicate your life to something like this and you should honestly feel bad for being unable to find your own meaning in your own life without these fairy tales.
i believe it, when i understood it and i saw the world through it's lens, i saw that the world, although having Evil, Loved me nonetheless, and i Loved it too, and every other human i was able to Love, and even if they screamed at me it didn't hinder me feeling how they Loved me too.
i wasn't a Christian for long either, i am still a Catechumen, i converted to it, i had no "indoctrination" put on me, and i was a skeptic, i looked through the lens of someone skeptical, but wanted to have definitive answers, i put it onto a high level of scrutiny because i wanted it to not be true, but it held up and i believed, and the more i tried to prove it wrong by finding any inconsistency i could, the more i was convinced.
>And I especially have no remorse against people like you who use their religion to judge other people's equally valid lifestyles
i see that these lifestyles hurt the people who pursue them, am i just called then to be silent, ignore it, and not say anything about it, i will not force them, but i will speak up, and if i find myself having to resort to emotional arguments, or that the faith does not provide an explanation to this, then i will shut up.
>including but not limited to polyamory, homosexuality, childfreeness, etc
the first 2 hurt and corrupt the persons view on Sex and Relationships, it is harmful to them themselves, it is not just because God said so that these are not allowed, the Teachings teach a very consistent explanation to why all of these are not allowed, and someone well acquainted with theology doesn't have a hard time explaining them.
also, polyamory, degrades the Unity that a couple has, and it corrupts it, you cannot love 2 people equally, it will lead to jealousy and resentment eventually, and someone has to take the fall in whatever that relationship is.
i have been getting into reading the old Testament, and the story of Jacob and his two Wives Leah and Rachel in Genesis.
Jacob wanting to earn their fathers approval to marry Rachel, but getting tricked into marrying Leah, but then eventually also marrying Rachel.
Jacob has eyes for Rachel, but she is barren.
and Leah is jealous of Rachel, so she has as many kids as she could in hopes that he would start loving her more.
but then Rachel gets jealous of Leah, since she was able to have kids.
and it's all a big mess, there's resentment and inequality on both sides, nobody is happy.
Childfreeness is not something that is looked down upon in christianity, specifically celibacy and chastity is viewed as a Virtue in fact.
of course, having no Children means in most cases that you do not get to have sex at all, really the only exception is if your partner is (involuntarily) infertile.
>Not even to mention being against the basic act of masturbation or USING CONTRACEPTION.
Masturbating has hurt me as a person, even before i cared about Christianity, the shame it brought to me was immense, and eventually too much was too much, and eventually i was able to stop doing it.
nobody "caught me" or anything, the shame came from inside, and i hated myself for it and i didn't know why, and any justification i tried to give myself didn't stick.
the longer that i stayed away from it, the better mentally i was doing too, i was able to actually care about women, and see them like actual human beings.
Contraception and Fornication (which is sex before marriage) i already explained previously, essentially, it is the disconnection of the Act, the Invitation of Life, and spiritual Unity.
if you believe it or not, Incest was viewed as a great Evil, and people didn't know about any of the genetic problems that we today know about, Incest was Viewed as always Rape (a great Evil against humanity that should'nt be Explained)
Familial Relationships are special, they are loving, and purely loving and sacrifical, but introducing sex to it not only corrupts it, but also, because of that, that love is then used as a coercion tactic, to note here, is that incest back then consisted mostly of Parent-Child Relationships, in a case of mother and son, either the Mother uses her Position as Mother to use the trust of her Son, or the Love he had of her to guilttrip him into reluctantly participating, vice-versa, and etc.
>You will keep hearing my slander until you stop replying to this thread.
i actually learn a lot from this, it does advance my studies to think and have to put into words my arguments.
i can understand if you had negative experiences with christians, i did not have these, as i am joining the faith i only had positive experiences.
i will also reply to your arguments you present, but if i see that you resorted to just being purely emotional then i will stop there.
again, no hate here, i am defending my stance, just as you are.
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@SuperDicq @thatbrickster
>"Um achually everyone is a christian even before we wrote the bible because uhm said god so ok???"
A Christian is someone who Believes in Jesus Christ as the jewish messiah and the holy Trinity.
to do Good from the goodness of your heart, is the Will of God, even if you don't believe in him, the idea is that Humans were created for Good, and every human is capable of Good (this is what "All men are born equal" refers to), but every human is also capable of Bad this is why Free Will is important in the philosophy.
this is also the one thing that wasn't explicitly said in the bible, this was interpreted because this was Implicitly conveyed in the Bible, because believe it or not the bible is perfectly consistent, easy to say that it means nothing, until you realize that the bible is a collection of books that were written in the span of Centuries.
>Also the whole argument that Christians are not selfish because they do shit for a higher wisdom is bullcrap. You're still selfish because you do shit for something that you made up.
Christians can be Selfish, they can also go against the Will of God
non-Christians can be Charitable, they can also follow the Will of God, a lot even better than Christians themselves.
also, are the early christians who died for the sake of spreading the Word, for following the justice, are they also selfish?
wouldn't it have been easier to just pray in quiet and get the gateway to heaven guaranteed instead of risking death and persecution.
"but the bible says to spread the word", in reality, many christians are so happy with the News of Salvation (the Good News), that whne they are told to spread the word, and given the go, they cheer for it, it's the kind of joy that makes you want to go to everyone you know and tell them about it, it's that kind of good news.
>I think instead of looking at old ass texts and joining a cult like Christianity you should instead find your own meaning in life and reasons for doing stuff and making the world a better place. It's not that hard.
i have tried and failed, i was miserable and couldn't find meaning in something, when i looked at the world i looked at the things that are dead even in other people i looked at the things in them that are dead, i didn't find anything, only when i looked at the world and looked at what is alive around me i eventually came to understand the world around me better and found higher purpose, eventually i came across God and recognized that the world that was written in the Bible was the World i was inhabiting.
>I'm not sure what the fuck you want me. I already said to you that I do not read the bible. I'm don't know anything about your shitass lorebook, I do not care.
i want you to stop professing about the things i care about, live for and believe in, and then slander it, especially when the arguments definetly don't hold up to scrutiny, i will not just let my faith be slandered and not hold up a defense will i?
i am not telling you to convert or something, again, it's your choice whether you want to convert or not, and also because this is text, i want to emphasise that i am not saying "it's your choice" in some sort of stupid passive-aggressive way.
>But I do know that organized religion is a very outdated concept, an unnecessary power hierarchy and basing your worldview on it
The Vatican does not actually have say over what the faith is, if they decide to remove or add to the bible imagine what kind of outrage that would cause, they can have interpretations, but don't think Christians are sort of drones who listen to whatever the Church says, everything they do is put on a high level of scrutiny.
>usually results in creating the most obnoxious and bigoted people I've ever had to deal including you.
i view the Catholic Church with Scrutiny, i always make sure that what they say is held up to scrutiny, the primary source on the faith is, and always will be, the bible.
i don't want to start anger with you either, and again i don't want to convert you or make you "change your ways" or just go "actually you are right all along", i still want to interact online and chill in the fedi like before, what i do ask of you is to stop unfairly slandering the thing i decided to dedicate my life for and that i am passionate about, and i believe that the bible should be held up to the maximum level of scrutiny possible, and if it holds up to a scrutiny, then it has to be said out loud and explained.
i hope you understand what i mean, i don't want to start hate here, i just want to clear up.
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@SuperDicq @thatbrickster >That's simply not true. Morals existed way before the bible did.
yes, morals existed for as long as humans existed, and applies to people who don't know of christ, it applied back then, and still applies to communities today that haven't heard of Christ.
people who do Good and do not become hypocrites (for example, machiavellanists), implicitly follow Gods will, even if they are not aware.
God looks favorably upon them, because they followed their Conscience (The Holy Spirit) and wished to do true Good.
Even Contrition (Essentially, Internal Regret from performing an evil Action, which, if you feel regret from the Action, God forgives you) applies.
according to the Lumen Gentium of the Vatican (while this is not the bible, it is derived from the bible, and i am of the same opinion for this one) Article 16 states:
"Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience."
Christians do not claim that only through God can the Good come,
i do not claim that virtues only exist through the knowledge of God, through the virtue of Free Will, every Person can *Choose* to do Good or Evil.
of course, Judeo-Christianity, added extra Morals, which work off and on top of, and help define the Morality and the definition of Good and Evil, Judaism through the Commandments and the Law of Moses, followed up by Christianity expanding on them (through the new Covenant of Christ) to define Good and Evil as something that doesn't arrive from the External Action, but more importantly, the internal drive for that Action.
what i meant by this, is that modern Western Atheism (which btw, is the active rejection of God, seperate from Agnosticism, which is either the lack of knowledge of the concept of a God, or the impartiality to the existence of the concept of a God) still uses Christian Morality as a base to work off.
the New Atheist Explanations as to what "Good and Evil" is is laughable, if i asked an Atheist why an action is good or bad, the Answers are Vague, the good action of the person could be truly motivated by a conscience, or it could be motivated to be seen and acknowledged as good (something that Christianity looks down upon, and one that many Atheists themselves acknowledge as bad, but is often rationalized with "a good deed is a good deed").
at the best of cases, they admit that they helped a stranger because they felt empathetic to them, but also, because they have to mask themselves in a constant facade of "Higher Wisdom", they could say, "this is better for society", but this is not true trust built here, now you internally set an expectation for a good change to happen, but this is not how it works, and also set THAT as the reasoning for why people are good, do i help a stranger because i expect to get something out of it here?
no. i help him because he, as a human, is my brother in Christ, and as a human, he has the likeness of God, the highest virtue is to Love a Brother as a Brother, to share the pains that he has and help carry them, and to share this love and Joy i experience and to see others smile is the highest calling, the fulfillment of Holy and Primal Love (Agape). if i am to Love God, and Choose to serve him, then i will also Love and Serve the ones with his Likeness.
a devout Christian knows the Good and Evil when he sees it, if there is the Evil Action which helps thousands of the Poor, then i will not do the Evil deed, i do not have to rationalize my actions with the consequences, the world is broken, and there is plenty of injustice, a good deed could end up in more suffering, but i refuse to be a part of the injustice and then proceed to exalt myself, that is an abomination, not just to God, but to the Human as well.
>I have the exact same opinion about the bible like any other religious text from any other religion. I have not studied each religion individually. I feel like that would be a waste of time.
then you should acknowledge that you do not know anything about the bible, if you see disinformation someone posted about something they don't know about and call them out, and then you you yourself tell your opinion, and implicity state that you are "knowledgable" about a topic when you aren't, then that makes you a hypocrite, i really don't mean to make this out as if i resent you or something, i still like the tetos, and i won't force you to believe something either (that is a sin, and also i don't agree with it).
hold onto your opinions, but don't state them as if they are fact when you don't actually know much about it, even if you don't agree with the field of Theology, and have no respect for it.
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