Notices by Plotinus Enjoyer (plotinus_enjoyer@poa.st), page 3
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic The point is that symbols =/= meaning which you yourself also admitted. And meaning is ultimately grasped by the mind and not the senses. Unless you want to tell me you can somehow taste or smell or physically see meaning.
Since we do remember meaning and meaning is not grasped by the senses, therefore memory is not limited to only sensory input.
You lost, deal with it. Take the L.
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic I’m not the one who thinks experience is somehow limited only to the sensible, somehow we can’t experience anything if the subject in question is a thought-object according to you
It’s clear you are a clown who never reflects on anything you do, because the answer that I’m giving is so intuitively obvious to anyone who has any first person experience doing anything I am talking about
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic And the act of experiencing also applies to thought objects so what the fuck is your point yet again? Why is experiencing only limited to the sensible for you? Are you retarded? Don’t have that first person perspective that you need in order to discuss any sort of philosophy of mind or something?
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic >muh analysis
Given how experience is personal in a way that is quite hard to describe, yeah this is fucking retarded and again tells me you don’t actually reflect on things you do in your day to day life
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic Your theory doesn’t actually properly describe experience so its worthless, lmao
I know as a leftist you only “think” in terms of slogans but do actually try to think properly for once, for yourself
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic >no one is grappling with it because some guy who fucking loves science on the Internet said so!
Ok bro, I guess I’ll take the opinion of some retarded Internet crackpot who is clearly not well read on these issues
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic >phenomenal consciousness and experience are still things not clearly understood
>but don’t worry, some retarded atheist who fucking loves science has it all figured out because he said so and because he had some slogans!
If phenomenal consciousness and experience really is just analysis as you said it then no one would be grappling with it right now and finding it problematic. Do you really think people haven’t thought of this?
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic Lots of people who spend lots of money don’t know what they‘re doing, see people who fall for all sorts of scams and people who spend $2000 to buy some steak with gold foil on it
Spending lots of money is no measure for any sort of wisdom with that money
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic >if someone invests more money he must be more correctererer!!!!!
Oh, and AI doesn’t think, the Chinese room thought experiment makes that clear enough
Oh, and all that money is going down the drain, because you don’t actually understand what you’re replicating.
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic >experience is now something computational according to some retarded atheist on the Internet
LOL, LMAO even.
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic >memories must come from sensory inputs
What? Are you ok?
What about shit like say, mathematical equations? Do you actually think we memorise just the symbols we see with our own eyes and not the meaning as well?
Are you retarded, maybe? (This is a trick question, you are.)
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic >you experiencing things is just you processing sensory data
Given that the act of experiencing can happen even without sensory input (through say, memory or what not), no, lmao
You don’t know what you’re talking about, clearly. Have fun with your scientism not being able to explain basic aspects of our existence.
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic >the existence of me is true
>the existence of my race as an extension of me is true
Both are not true in themselves and are grounded in something beyond themselves
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic >I care a lot about what is true
No you don’t. That’s mere lip service coming from a pure pragmatist and utilitarian.
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic O rly?
Why do you exist? Why then does your race exist? Why are we capable of genuine self-motion and other inert material things aren’t?
Ever thought about all of these questions? Oh wait, you have not because you don’t care for these things as a pure pragmatist. You use your race as an excuse to further your own lusts and desires.
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic >evolution
I can make you take infinity Ls with this one magic word
Consciousness
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic The number of churches, monks and monasteries in comparison to the Soviet era show the exact opposite
You need that dilator yet, btw?
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic Pretty sure Eastern Orthodoxy saw a resurgence despite the suppression, but ok sure
Oh, and Vladimir Putin himself is Orthodox along with his mother (it was his mother who secretly got him baptised). Just wanted to let you know that to make you seethe harder.
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic Yes of course, because then the increase in number of monks, monasteries and churches etc just happened for absolutely no reason at all, this makes perfect sense and totally doesn’t defy credulity
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@HyperboreanWave @SK1ZM @LostShakerOfSalt @BowsacNoodle @EdBoatConnoisseur @Floydian_Psychology @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Turkleton @vic >China is a state-atheist country
Yes and China is supposedly a Marxist-Leninist state, that’s why it has socialism with Chinese characteristics which, if anything, resembles fascist Italy more than whatever Marx envisioned
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