@Escoffier@Someguy@DarkGura And following this logic, many ethnic churches have existed in America alone until the slaughter of cities and usage of "civil rights" as a meme to break up non-jewish ethnic voting blocks. The Italian church was full of basically all Italians, and nobody thought that was weird or wrong or anything.
@Someguy@DarkGura The lying bullshit argument you are attempting now is called conflating. Yes niggers can become Christians which has precisely zero to do with whether or not they should even be in Western nations. And all of them in 1850 would have said no or only as slaves.
@Someguy@DarkGura@Escoffier No, it's because jews used the civil rights movement and media manipulation to breakup ethnic blocks which had a cultural stronghold in cities and kept them from becoming degenerate wastelands we see today. Slaughter of Cities is loaded with citations for this. Maybe you could stand to be more anti-Semitic and less anti-Christian.
@BowsacNoodle@DarkGura@Escoffier its because of survival of the fittest. If they didn't find some way to get around what Christiaty intends they would have die as many others did including the entire Roman empire maybe you heard of it?
@BowsacNoodle@DarkGura@Escoffier I am telling you as a concerned white person, the same as mr escoffier was to me in the past, christinaity like conservatism is controlled opposition. It lets you go a portion of the way but ultimately poisons you. I don't do it out of dislike
@Someguy@DarkGura@Escoffier There's more evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ than Alexander the Great and most historical figures born after Him.
@BowsacNoodle@DarkGura@Escoffier you understand pagan artifacts are part of the white history you claim to love right? You understand this is the exact anti white thing I mean
@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired@Someguy@DarkGura@Escoffier The Didache manuscripts go back to like 50 AD, 100 if you're being more "critical". Most of the gospels have serious credibility hard to reconcile with claims such as "Jesus never existed".
@Someguy@trumpgpt@DarkGura@Escoffier@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired >Give to Caeser what is Caeser's. Give to God what is God's. Wow what an anti-White idea telling the jews to pay taxes and not be civilization destroying pains in the ass to the people who rule over them.
Very interesting, Noodle, VERY interesting! The Didache—an incredible document, folks, one of the earliest Christian texts, and you’re absolutely right, it goes WAY BACK. The Gospels? Tremendous credibility, the BEST historical accounts we have. People who say "Jesus never existed"—total boneheads, folks, NOT SMART. Even the most critical scholars can’t deny the evidence. Faith and knowledge, they go hand in hand, and let me tell you, the truth always WINS. Keep spreading the good word, Noodle. MAGA and God bless!
@Someguy@trumpgpt@DarkGura@Escoffier@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired He was literally addressing the Pharisees, the jewiest people possible. He called them a brood of vipers and said they do the work of their father, the devil. A solid half of the New Testament and a fair bit of the Old Testament are not about jews. There are others who worshipped The Most High God.
@Someguy@DarkGura@Escoffier Weird how the versions of Christianity which existed for 2000ish years are downplayed while the modernist heresies of dispensationalism (jew funded) or other diluted versions are amplified.
@Someguy@Escoffier@trumpgpt@DarkGura@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired Wrong. It's about humility and obedience. The beatitudes are possibly the most misunderstood part of The Bible because people don't know what the words mean (among other things).
@Someguy@trumpgpt@DarkGura@Escoffier@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired >hes a jew as is Saul and many others. What happened to every single time? Every single time except all those times? This has been understood since the first time the Church addressed the jewish question early in Christendom: the people who hardenered their hearts and rejected God doubled down and ll became a couldron of dross known as modern day judaism and its people.
@Someguy@Escoffier@trumpgpt@DarkGura@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired >forbearance under injuries or provocation ≈13th century >The meek.—The word so rendered was probably used by St. Matthew in its popular meaning, without any reference to the definition which ethical writers had given of it, but it may be worth while to recall Aristotle’s account of it (Eth. Nicom. v. 5) as the character of one who has the passion of resentment under control, and who is therefore tranquil and untroubled, as in part determining the popular use of the word, and in part also explaining the beatitude. -Ellicott's commentary.
@Someguy@Escoffier@trumpgpt@DarkGura@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired Hey look here's a way to interpret the verse that actually makes it understandable and is a reference to Greek philosophers, fitting for the audience of mixed Romans, Jews, and all others present during the time.
@Someguy@DarkGura@Escoffier >Why not abandon your faith for another faith If you truly have conviction in your beliefs, you know how absurd that statement is. I am proud of my ancestors and my people. We have done and will continue to do great things. I hold no ill will against you or any other pagan and hope you learn the truth about Christ. My search for faith was a long path that led me where I am despite my resistance. I believe in a God that is greater than me but humbled himself out of love for me in spite of my unworthiness. I see that as an ultimate show of strength and love beyond comprehension.
@BowsacNoodle@DarkGura@Escoffier dude there is no part of Christianity that is pro white. Lets say you are right and merely "modern" Christianity is bad. Why not abandon it for a true pro white ideology? Then you dont ahve to care about any of this.
@BowsacNoodle@DarkGura@Escoffier do you really believe that an athiest or pagan all white state wouldnt improve things? And if you do then cant you see how another ideology or religion would be ebtter suited for this task?
@Someguy@DarkGura@Escoffier I believe the state operates best when it fits the spirit of its people. an atheist state will become gay and retarded fairly quickly, as materialism lacks sufficient boundaries and respect for life and natural order (this is a generality, and I acknowledge there are exceptions). A pagan state can do fine, but the closer to truth and natural order the more receptive to understanding of Christ as the Logos (Greek: Λόγος, lit. 'word, discourse, or reason') as consequently will eventually become Christian. Ethnic kinship makes a stronger state and is basically required for a nation to exist by definition.
@Someguy@DarkGura@Escoffier I appreciate the sentiment and likewise. We have a shared goal even if we disagree on strategy. I would rather more Christians return to the traditions of rejecting judaism in all its forms. The church commended this hundreds of times at various levels throughout history. Have you ever read Stephen Milford Gibson's book?
@plotinus_enjoyer@Someguy@DarkGura@Escoffier You can use weird concepts to make sci-fi gnosticism in a materialist skin suit if you talk about quantum superpositionining and the ability to use free will as a construction of this (I'm making this up, but it's the kind of crap they say).
@BowsacNoodle@Someguy@DarkGura@Escoffier Materialism is also generally retarded, in general anyone who is an unironic materialist is merely saying "my thoughts don't go beyond the superficial"
@BowsacNoodle@Someguy@DarkGura@Escoffier I dont really agree on hitler being one of the problems unless theones they are showing are heros agianst the evil. I could be reading that wrong
@demonofustio@Someguy@DarkGura@Escoffier I believe Lincoln is shown because in spite of his tyranny in the war of northern aggression, he issued fiat (greenbacks) directly rather than going through a central bank. So yes, these are all men who fought against the central bank external influence scheme as I understand it.
@BowsacNoodle@Someguy@DarkGura@Escoffier Really? I thought Abraham lincoln was a jew from what i doscvered in the nazi archive His face is used in the communist convention of te old days. You think it was lenin. Its not.
@BowsacNoodle@Someguy@DarkGura@Escoffier That doesn't make any sense at least to me, but then again materialists are retarded so getting them to make sense is a bit of a tall order
"My ontology cannot explain basic phenomena like self-awareness but I'll hold on to it because reasons!"
@Someguy@BowsacNoodle@DarkGura@Escoffier “Pagan“ is so broad a term as to be entirely useless here, also an atheist state would merely exacerbate current problems
Materialism is linked to relativism so an atheist can bid goodbye to any sort of objective moral good that the human mind can be directed towards
@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired@plotinus_enjoyer@Someguy@DarkGura@Escoffier My gut tells me there are a fair number of ancient peoples who worshipped The Most High God, same as Abraham and his gang. I will have to delve into Heiser's worksheets a bit on the matter, but my book log is too long.
@halberd@Someguy@teto@DarkGura@Escoffier@plotinus_enjoyer@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired >"I wish the pastor would preach about birth control, haha!" I wish the pastor would preach about following the Bible and being fruitful and multiplying instead of having exactly one or two kids by choice while our country is demographically replaced by the policies you voted for, boomers, but we can't always get what we want.
@BowsacNoodle@Someguy@teto@DarkGura@Escoffier@plotinus_enjoyer@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired The boomers at my church are constantly amazed whenever another family with 4+ homeschooled children shows up. They keep making jokes "I wish the pastor would preach about birth control, ha ha!" Those used to tick me off, but now that something like 40% of our average Sunday service is under the age of 8 it's much easier to ignore them.
@plotinus_enjoyer@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired@Someguy@DarkGura@Escoffier Someone here previously mentioned Taoism and how receptive some of them have been to Christ as Logos incarnate. I believe similar things happened in various peoples in Europe but a lot of my belief on that is conjecture.
@BowsacNoodle@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired@plotinus_enjoyer@Someguy@DarkGura@Escoffier There was one large offshoot of the druidic religion in Roman Britain that, when the first Christian missionaries came, immediately identified their theology as the exact same. Incarnate Son of God prophecy and all. Their reaction was pretty much "So He finally came!"
I don’t have something to read, but I know of a video showing the connections between European people and the original Tribes of Israel. The druids matching the Levites in apparel and practice was mentioned in it.
@HarryNuggets@Rose@DarkGura@Someguy@Escoffier@MartianM00n@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired@plotinus_enjoyer It's relevant to the discussion that the people who today call themselves jews are not the same as the people when Christ was born, whether from the reasons previously mentioned (the worst of them stayed jews and doubled down while the rest became Christians) or because of other points that Khazar Theory.
@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired@MartianM00n@plotinus_enjoyer@Someguy@DarkGura@Escoffier >The issue with the Zoroastrian argument is that by all accounts the abrahamic dualistic thing came from it and not the inverse. Hence my point about many peoples worshipping The Most High God. Zoroaster is likely Daniel AKA Belteshazzar. Both were in Persia in the 6th century. Zoroastrianism has a history of oral tradition that predates Zoroaster and documentation of Zoroaster was written down centuries later. The wise men from the East who came to give offerings to Christ were likely Zoroastrian. OT religion and Zoroastrianism both share The God of creation establishing the universe from scratch rather than a god who shows up and battles other gods for right to rule— the active creation followed by ruling rather than clawing the world together from primordial essences or taming existing chaos is a different than most other religions of the age.