Notices by smallcircles (Humanity Now 🕊) (smallcircles@social.coop), page 2

@Goffi @rakoo @hrefna

Indeed you are! 😃

My experience dates from a couple years back. And #Libervia still is a pioneer, right? There aren't many others going beyond IM.. that I'm aware of at least.

Check out @steve on #SocialHub with a proposal to work on #ActivityPub #C2S, the client-to-server Social API part of the #W3C Recommendation.

The Social API didn't get much uptake on the #Fediverse where generally the #Mastodon API is used (and abused) for client/server communication.

It is not because the Social API isn't good, just that no one ever did the legwork to mature this part of the spec.

Are you interested in C2S and help push the #SocialWeb?

More info:

https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/nextgen-activitypub-social-api/4733

#SocialNetworking: How we interact.

#SocialWeb: How we support human interaction online.

#Fediverse: How we support the social web using decentralized social networking technologies.

#ActivityPub: How we support the fediverse with an open standard communication protocol.

#ATProto: Another fediverse communication protocol.

#Mastodon: How we support activitypub for our microblogging app.

#Bluesky: An atproto app.

@aral @GeePawHill @jenniferplusplus

You know my position and where I put years of effort.

There's a sad reality where the commons is now in a bad position to fend off a corporate takeover of fedi.

But uptake on BS/ATProto may see corporate interest go there instead, and give some air to AS/AP fedi to mature & evolve more towards its full potential (which is well beyond a Microbloggoverse).

Huge fly in the ointment is freaking Meta, positioned to pounce with an EE(E) whenever they choose to.

@GeePawHill @jenniferplusplus

If the switch from corporate #SocialMedia to decentralized #SocialWeb were frictionless already, then we couldn't handle the influx without losing said culture and see massive corporate takeover on the #Fediverse.

In that light considering the definition of Social Web to be multi-protocol with e.g. #ActivityPub #Bluesky and others fits the bill best.

Personally I discern a #Peopleverse (socio-cultural), a Social Web (socio-technical) and protocols (technical).

More than ever before,
Now it is THE time,
To show #BigTech the door.

@strypey I think it is modeled to a similar repo at Github for "FOSS ideas". It is at Codeberg and not SocialHub for 2 reasons. Main one being that fedi ideas might lead to become FEP's and then they can cross-reference each other. Secondly many folks don't like to participate on a forum apparently, prefer a code forge.

@strypey

These are very good points. Best ask @silverpill

A sort of chicken/egg can be solved with the advice "just do it" and otherwise create a #FediIdea for it. 😜

So many things are possible. But they depend on hands, not only brains. I mentioned the other day that do-ocracy is a kind of minimum state of collab before you can speak of a community.

Community may evolve from do-ocracy, an emergent almost natural state, well-adapted (governance, procedures) to the needs of its participants.

@hollo great!

Is this something to have mentioned in an Implementers section of the FEP, @silverpill ?

There's only one word for the act of indiscriminately setting off 1,000's of explosives in the midst of a civilian population: #Terrorism

And if this act was perpetrated by a state actor and with the approval of a democratic government that you helped vote in office, you might then ponder the question:

"Was this really done in my name??"

@hrefna @jdp23 @cigitalgem

It took me quite some time searching through link-rotted toot history to find this toot by @cwebber dating from November 2022:

https://octodon.social/@cwebber/109421874041759892

And in it the text:

> (I am anticipating a crash/collapse of the fediverse in its current form at a not too distant future; hopefully we'll have more answers ready by then, but this is a multi-year project)

I would be curious to hear Christine's current thoughts on this and in light of todays 'state of things'.

@erlend my query in this case was "@ cwebber in:library" because I did not know any word that should be in the toot. And then just scrolling deeper into history until I found it.

@edri @fsfe

In addition to what's mentioned in the article, there's also the open letter created by @ps that is signed by a still growing number of parties. Add your project or institution to the list..

https://pad.public.cat/lettre-NCP-NGI#

It is sad that apparently most #EU people can't be bothered to take a minute to sign the #Petition to #TaxTheRich and it looks like the treshold will not be reached.

https://eci.ec.europa.eu/038/public/#/screen/home/allcountries

TIL about #CopyFarLeft licensing..

https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Copyfarleft

Like the Peer Production license:

> "The peer production license is an example of the Copyfair type of license, in which only other commoners, cooperatives and nonprofits can share and re-use the material, but not commercial entities intent on making profit through the commons without explicit reciprocity."

https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Peer_Production_License

@frogzone dunno about the designer, but they are a very privacy-minded person doing everything via Tor.

As for fedi icons.. whether they get popular, find any use, all depends on.. everyone, I guess. There's no one that can authoritatively say "this is the icon". You may campaign for an icon's adoption, that's about it, no guarantees 😄

For Peertube you might suggest the icons in their issue tracker.

Nice animation added, though. 👍

"A new terror has entered the Gaza war: that it is ushering in an age of total immorality"

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/29/israel-gaza-war-palestinians-suffering-normalisation

@BeAware @twen @fediversereport

That can be a practical way to look at it. None of the opinions are wrong imho. Using that perspective focuses on where most efforts are to increase the general interoperability between different apps. Much needed.

It is a technical perspective, however. The social perspective of people getting connected needs no protocol definition.

The other day someone called me out to not use the term "Web" because its tied too much to HTTP. But not for the average person.

@twen @BeAware @fediversereport

Yea. I don't think anyone's understanding is wrong. Just that there's no clear definition. What the Fediverse is, is in the eye of the beholder.

As Fediverse gets more popular and well-known the various meanings of the word in different contexts will probably get a bit clearer, but always still in part subjective I guess. It is just too broad of a concept to be exactly fingerpointed a This Thing™

#ChatControl the saga continues.. 😫

Read @echo_pbreyer latest article on this nightmare:

https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/majority-for-chat-control-possible-users-who-refuse-scanning-to-be-prevented-from-sharing-photos-and-links/

#EU #EUCommission #Privacy #Dystopia