Notices by David Zaslavsky (diazona@techhub.social), page 2

@Fragglemuppet Personally I tend to ignore that line of thought during #Monsterdon ... it makes it more fun for me to experience the movie "organically" than to try to reconstruct how viewers in its day would have thought of it

Though it's very rare that I've seen any version of a #Monsterdon movie before

@_L1vY_ Sometimes they add sugar at the factory though

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"Don't bless me, pay me!"

Good life advice

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wait you can stop them with a cross?

...and this conveniently never came up until an hour into the movie

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@RamenCatholic I think I know which someone 😛

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The official anthem of planes running people down is Ride of the Valkyries

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Not the worst movie we've ever seen but I think I have to agree it is at least on the short list for the dumbest

Thanks as always @Taweret for hosting and everybody for posting! Looking forward to next week, except that how can it possibly measure up to this...

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I don't know how to feel about the fact that they made us wait 90 minutes before destroying the truck stop

like, this could have happened an hour ago and we might have had a semi-legitimate movie

...but then it wouldn't be #Monsterdon

30 seconds in and I'm already blown away by the sound quality

A reminder of the caliber of movies we normally watch

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@lanodan @jbowen I would think that just means they're supposed to include the LICENSE file, or some file with the text of the Apache 2 license, in the distribution. I'd be surprised if it means that Apache 2 headers in source code need to be preserved; as far as I know, those headers are not licenses themselves, they're just notices clarifying what license applies to the file.

@lanodan @jbowen Ooh interesting! Yeah that seems odd. I suppose they could be manually refusing to accept pull requests from anyone who doesn't have a signed CLA on file, and we outside observers wouldn't necessarily have any way to know, but that would be an unusual way to operate.

This chart (https://opensource.stackexchange.com/a/3/529) suggests that Apache 2 code can be relicensed as AGPL3, so they wouldn't need the original contributors' assent for that. Although they would have to be complying with the terms of Apache 2, in particular including a copy of the Apache 2 license text with any redistribution... I didn't check but I do have to wonder about that 🤷

@lanodan @jbowen Ah and I just found this: https://github.com/element-hq/dendrite/commit/6bfe946bd2d82db12c1e49918612cc3d7139b8ce

From a brief scan it looks like they are keeping the existing attribution notices, so that particular obligation seems to be fulfilled.

I couldn't help but notice that they missed deleting a few Apache 2 file headers 😛 Dunno if they might have fixed them in later commits.

@jbowen @lanodan This piqued my curiosity, so I looked into the history of the project and found that it was relicensed from Apache 2 to AGPL3 last year (https://github.com/matrix-org/dendrite/discussions/3281). So the explanation that seems most likely to me is that whoever updated the license just forgot that it was mentioned in CONTRIBUTING.md. I don't think one can reasonably assume it's intentional, at least not based on what I saw.

If somebody submitted a bug report pointing this out, or a PR fixing it, and that wasn't well received, then that's a different story - it would start to look extremely suspicious.

I do have to wonder what the terms of the commercial licenses they sell are... if the software isn't delivered to commercial customers under AGPL3, that "smells" an awful lot like copyright infringement. (though I'm no lawyer)

@glyph @whitequark @mcc There really is a #Python package for everything lol

@wohali @WhiteCatTamer I don't think so, but was that in the movie? If so I can easily grab it... otherwise some image manipulation is needed, it'll take a bit of time

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@WhiteCatTamer @wohali oh excellent, thank you! This is a good one

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Podcast intro

(edit: also check out the captioned version https://techhub.social/@diazona/114809739794492290)

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Frankenstein meets the Spacemonster: the best possible reminder that the quality of the movie bears no relation to the quality of the viewing experience. I had fun tonight 😀

Plus the meme potential is off the charts

Thanks as always @Taweret for hosting and everybody for posting! Looking forward to next week!

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@bunnyhero best I can do while the movie is running... I will return to this though

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This soundtrack belongs in a much better movie

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