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    Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 11:34:49 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
    Just so you all know, still planning to import a wife.

    Idk who it's going to be yet, but its gonna happen
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      pwm (pwm@darkdork.dev)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 11:35:18 JST pwm pwm
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      @Tony I think the galaxybrain play is to import a Brit-ette refugee
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      pwm (pwm@darkdork.dev)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 11:36:19 JST pwm pwm
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      @Tony @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 this nigga digging through cam sites on god
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 11:36:20 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 i have my ways...
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      ThisIsTheEnd (d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2@mostr.pub)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 11:36:21 JST ThisIsTheEnd ThisIsTheEnd
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      How do you find them?
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      ThisIsTheEnd (d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2@mostr.pub)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 11:36:22 JST ThisIsTheEnd ThisIsTheEnd
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      What country?
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 11:36:22 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 Russia ideally, but im open to any eastern european country
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 11:36:53 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      @pwm @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 SHUT UP, YOU DON'T KNOW MY LIFE
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      pwm (pwm@darkdork.dev)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 11:37:53 JST pwm pwm
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      @Tony @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 My second guess is looking through the women you've met via twitter gorls trying to sell you feet pics
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 11:37:55 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      @pwm @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 :apurave:
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 11:39:58 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      @pwm @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 chat, he's not wrong on all accounts. One must diversify.

      Basically once you find one you can network through the community and find more.

      Not a huge fan of ukrainians though. For some reason they have so much national pride even though they are basically only alive because the US allows them to be
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      pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 13:16:46 JST pistolero pistolero
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      @Tony MKULTRA is a cool guy and actual genius and one of the things he is really good at is that he repels boomers like "BasedLunatic", who has insisted that if he commits suicide, it wasn't actually suicide and was probably me.

      "BasedLunatic" likes to stir up inter-instance drama. Usually best to ignore. How far did he get in the fediverse gay tournament, didn't he win this year?
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 13:16:47 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      • Based Stable Lunatic
      @BasedLunatic im still not entirely convinced he's not a bot. But idk @p knows him. I think he's just some old fag from 4chan.

      Either way, always makes hell thread better

      WE'RE HELLBOUND
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      Based Stable Lunatic (basedlunatic@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 13:16:48 JST Based Stable Lunatic Based Stable Lunatic
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      @Tony yes demon lmao. Man is most insane man to exist
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      Based Stable Lunatic (basedlunatic@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 13:16:49 JST Based Stable Lunatic Based Stable Lunatic
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      @Tony yeah it would be gross, this guy on here spent 3 weeks hellthead posting low caste untouchable indian women
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 13:16:49 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      @BasedLunatic lmao you mean DEMON, he loves em. Also trannies which is gross but to each is own
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 13:16:50 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      @BasedLunatic gross, only eastern european wife for me
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      Based Stable Lunatic (basedlunatic@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 13:16:51 JST Based Stable Lunatic Based Stable Lunatic
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      @Tony get a indian untouchable low caste wife
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      pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 13:36:49 JST pistolero pistolero
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      @Tony It's easiest if you just have people around that naturally repel the people you don't want around. Nobody on FSE can get away with being *completely* humorless.
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 13:36:50 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      @p idk i lost track of it. He doesn't bother me but i like to take the spectator route. I've never had a problem with him. When people start geting big mad i just excuse myself lol.

      Which is how i try to keep tensions reasonable between instances.

      Clew still manages to federate with most everyone on this side of fedi and we have no blocks yet. So I'm proud of our stance lol.

      But no, he's cool, i could do without the love of indian trannies but everyone has there thing you know
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 13:38:58 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      This is why I'm not on FSE. 🤨
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      pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 13:54:27 JST pistolero pistolero
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      @Humpleupagus @Tony You can't keep getting away with it! :alexjonescrying:
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      pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 14:00:30 JST pistolero pistolero
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      > Thats why i let people harass trannies.

      I try to avoid people, like, actively harassing TWKN or jumping on overloaded threads to yell at whoever is the current person to yell at. People that are here to "harass trannies" are usually exactly as retarded and humorless as whoever they are harassing.
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 14:00:31 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      @p Thats why i let people harass trannies. If you can't take a cat meme saying "kill yourself" i'm honestly not interested.

      And if being called a nazi makes you run screaming we won't get along anyway.

      Thought my vps provider got a little but hurt about it, but this is why i just use them as a reverse proxy. If they get big mad we'll just move to iceland lol
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      pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 14:38:55 JST pistolero pistolero
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      @Tony

      > Tbh if some liberal man wearing a dress is big mad i don't care.

      It's culture war shit, man. Two groups of people that are perpetually big mad at each other. Boring as hell. (They are both big mad at me, but one group just puts FSE on every blocklist, so I only see the other group; the sonnenrad dipshits want a safe space where no one will make fun of them but they won't admit it.)

      Anyway, I don't care who gets mad, I do care if people bring that awful Twitter shit to fedi.
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 14:38:56 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      @p oh i don't participate.

      I just ignore the reports.

      Tbh if some liberal man wearing a dress is big mad i don't care.

      It might not be the best moderation strategy sure, but i generally don't interfer with users unless they do something thats like alarming.

      For example maija and ponies. We can't have users lusting after cartoon horses, thats where i draw the line :02_laugh:

      Idk if it's the best route but thats what i've been operating under. I guess the only issue is i've been on the internet since I was 11 and i don't really get offended at this point...
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      pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 15:00:40 JST pistolero pistolero
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      > Who am i to tranny janny you for hating men who wear dresses.

      Nobody has gotten banned from FSE for that, ever; not for being a staunch proponent, either. No opinions, except on the bugout zone I am not dealing with pedos. You keep using one example, the same example. There is a huge difference between believing something or advocating for it, and actively shitting the place up. It's like this "there are no bad tactics, only bad targets" horseshit. I couldn't give a damn about anyone's politics, but "we must stop the whatever" turns the place to shit. It's like nicecrew.gov or the podcast race, one of them posts a reply that is a single gamer word and then six other guys post the same thing as a reply. It's gablin shit, it's worthless. I'm totally fine if that kind of person hates FSE. There's too much *good* shit to read on here without diluting it with that kind of "+1" bullshit.
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 15:00:42 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      @p > people that are here to "harass trannies" are usually exactly as retarded and humorless as whoever they are harassing

      Fair, but you don't always get to pick your users so idk, i suport them. go nuts. Who am i to tranny janny you for hating men who wear dresses.

      Again, maybe not the best policy but it's not personally offensive to me and i get some joy from ignoring reports.
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      pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 15:14:32 JST pistolero pistolero
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      > I just don't engage. Problem solved. But again, this is just how i handle it.

      The approach doesn't scale up. Call me when you have pissed off *everyone*.

      Anyway, tasks I don't want to do, I delegate to machines.
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 15:14:33 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      @p idk man, im maybe not as sensative.

      I don't really care. I just don't talk to/engage with things i don't like.

      I haven't had an issue or needed to block anyone in 3 years (aside from some spinsters).

      I just don't engage. Problem solved. But again, this is just how i handle it.
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      pern (pernia@cum.estate)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 15:52:34 JST pern pern
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      @p @Tony basedlunatic is DICEY. He has no job, no prospects, and KICKED HIS OWN MOTHER OUT OF HER HOUSE to an apartment. he has SEX with his own MOTHER. know ur fedi lore sheeple
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      pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 15:54:48 JST pistolero pistolero
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      @pernia @Tony I know who he is. He constantly respawns.
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       (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 16:00:56 JST  
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      • Nigger_Deluxe 🍕 :blobcattransegg: 🗺
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      @pernia @Tony @Lyx @p I believe MKULTRA was the one behind the "don't marry movement" spam in the early days.
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      pern (pernia@cum.estate)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 16:00:57 JST pern pern
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      • Nigger_Deluxe 🍕 :blobcattransegg: 🗺
      @p @Tony he is very funny to troll. @Lyx does a great job with it, along the clew.lol propaganda.

      speaking of propaganda, i have never seen diamondmind make a coherent post, other than WoW. but if you know him :shrug_kon:
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      pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 16:05:48 JST pistolero pistolero
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      @mint @pernia @Lyx @Tony THERE ARE THREE

      MAIN

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      SilverDeth (silverdeth@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 16:48:44 JST SilverDeth SilverDeth
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      @p

      "nicecrew.gov"

      Fuckin ded. LoL.

      @Tony
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      pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 16:49:22 JST pistolero pistolero
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      @SilverDeth @Tony :bruceforsythe:
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      ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Aug-2025 16:52:28 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:
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      @p @Tony @SilverDeth :do_you_even_enzyte_bro:
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      Log Off (mkraiden@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 03:12:58 JST Log Off Log Off
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      @p @Tony most people on dark fedi don't have the balls to admit they're just outright not sympathetic to nazis. They usually do this fake support act where it's obvious they hate alt righties but they refuse to admit it since they expect to be treated like "the real" alt right. I guess they don't think they'll have any street cred otherwise.
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      pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 03:15:52 JST pistolero pistolero
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      @mkraiden @Tony I don't know why, you know, like...what are they gonna do, say mean things on the internet?

      Most people's politics are terrible. My politics are terrible. Least interesting thing a person can do on the internet is repeatedly shout their tribal identifiers.
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 04:00:58 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      • Log Off
      @mkraiden @p I’m all for supporting white people, I just get sick of hearing about THE JOOS
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      pwm (pwm@darkdork.dev)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 04:01:36 JST pwm pwm
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      @sysrq @Tony malewives need not apply
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      tsoifan1997 (sysrq@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 04:01:37 JST tsoifan1997 tsoifan1997
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      @Tony Gimme a greencard
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 04:26:41 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      @sysrq @pwm no malewives!
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      tsoifan1997 (sysrq@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 04:26:42 JST tsoifan1997 tsoifan1997
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      @pwm @Tony Considering it's Tony there may be a chance.
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 04:29:22 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      @sysrq that’s unfortunate
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      tsoifan1997 (sysrq@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 04:29:23 JST tsoifan1997 tsoifan1997
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      @Tony All my Romanian passports ended up in other people's pockets.
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 04:29:24 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      @sysrq you have like 8 passports you can figure it out
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      Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Saturday, 02-Aug-2025 06:47:29 JST Johnny Peligro Johnny Peligro
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      @Tony if I'm lucky i can wow a european girl into importing me
      if I'm not I'll import someone when if i can afford it
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Sunday, 03-Aug-2025 06:56:58 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      • SilverDeth
      @SilverDeth @p he’s got a good point.

      And also nicecrew dot gov made me chuckle
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Sunday, 03-Aug-2025 06:57:52 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      @p 😂

      The senator armstrong situation was close. I tried to be neutral and got hate mobbed for two days 😂 also, what spawned soys lovely marketing campaign.
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Sunday, 03-Aug-2025 06:58:59 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      @pernia @Lyx @p I did not endorse nor pay for these ads.

      Fake news
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      pern (pernia@cum.estate)'s status on Sunday, 03-Aug-2025 06:59:00 JST pern pern
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      • Nigger_Deluxe 🍕 :blobcattransegg: 🗺
      @Lyx @Tony @p fucking based thank you big man
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      Nigger_Deluxe 🍕 :blobcattransegg: 🗺 (lyx@cum.estate)'s status on Sunday, 03-Aug-2025 06:59:01 JST Nigger_Deluxe 🍕 :blobcattransegg: 🗺 Nigger_Deluxe 🍕 :blobcattransegg: 🗺
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      @pernia @p @Tony ah theres new clew.lol ads to be had thanks hermano¡
      *DISCLAIMER; This ad was bought and endorsed soley by Tony Bacon
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      di0nysius the patomskyite (dsm@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 03-Aug-2025 07:05:34 JST di0nysius the patomskyite di0nysius the patomskyite
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      @Tony @p 🔥
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      Accurate.
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      Yeah, even a neoliberal extremist that is on every antidepressant will care about some stuff to some extent.
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      @mkraiden @p @Tony the Internet Nazi thing is a fascinating research topic. Once we see the similarities to LGBT it's hard to unsee. There's also the phenomenon of both identities appearing in one person without any seeming contradictions. Personally I find it pointless to make a big deal out of it. In the end most people under that banner don't really know what that's supposed to mean for their real life. It's a sort of edgy release valve
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      @mkraiden @p @Tony but you're acting like that is not an actual and existing position. Traditionalism and Neonazism do not occupy the same spot or perspectives, there's just overlap. Similar to how Liberals and Communists have overlap.
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      @irie @mkraiden @Tony GLR fused traditionalism into it to try to appeal to American conservatives. Hitler and his party weren't especially big on trad-family stuff. The trad people also tend to be interested in modern-trad where you have a mom and a dad and a picket fence and kids and a dog in a "nuclear" family instead of the pre-WW2 tradition of having kids at 20 and cohabiting with your extended family.
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      @irie @Tony @p the workforce is definitely divided by racial castes and nazism is a no brainer to support if you're middle class white guy getting ripped off by jews. doesn't really validate all their mythology about ancient aryans or whatever, but still has utility regardless.
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      @irie @Tony @p Like I said, if you want to be a liberal and defend liberalism, then just do that. You don't have to pretend to be a nazi. Except apparently they do now since liberals have no credibility anymore and they are unable to subvert nazis any other way.
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      @AndrewFork @Tony @irie @mkraiden "Cannot have" is not in my DNA. I'm sorry to hear if it is in modern man's DNA but I didn't put it there.
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      @irie@fsebugoutzone.org @mkraiden@fsebugoutzone.org @Tony@clew.lol @p@fsebugoutzone.org
      people don't want that because it's absolutely impossible, something that the modern man cannot have, just in the same way it can't have a community of even similar looking people, let alone ideas.

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      @irie @Tony @mkraiden Yeah, you are correct that Nazism is heavily materialist and neo-Nazism is not very different; I don't know that there is a cohesive traditionalist philosophy.
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      @p @Tony @mkraiden perhaps that is so, in my understanding one of the biggest dividing lines between Traditionalism and Nazism (specifically) occurs on the spiritual vs. biological one. Nazism leans into traditionalism but builds itself on materialist assumptions and racialism. While Traditionalism does not inherently deny the existence of race, race does not occupy the position from which reality flows, but rather as one aspect of creation.
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      @AndrewFork @p @Tony @irie @mkraiden it's ok if other people 'cant have' stuff, but that's got absolutely nothing to do with me. I can have whatever i believe i can have
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      @AndrewFork @p @Tony @irie @mkraiden your 'cant have' attitude is a self fulfilling prophecy. Anyone who concludes 'i cant have X' in an abstract has already given up and will certainly never obtain it even if it was on the off chance possible.

      Therefore the most rational choice is to deliberately have any other mental attitude other than that one, even if it means having an insane one. At least it won't be a guaranteed loss then. In my view that's not retarded, but instead a step towards positive goals and therefore smart and good.
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      @p@fsebugoutzone.org @Tony@clew.lol @irie@fsebugoutzone.org @mkraiden@fsebugoutzone.org @yaboisugoi@fsebugoutzone.org
      it's way to early to be reading such inane retardation. Go and do it, become king of the universe then, I'll send you letters to the psych ward.

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      @p @Tony @mkraiden Traditionalism exists in various flavors, what they all have in common, and what makes it Traditional, is the belief in absolute Truth, which is usually revealed by a divine source. It builds on the metaphysical and thus deviates strongly from all enlightenment ideologies, which ultimately led to a reduction to 'matter explains everything' thinking. In the Christian context this goes hand in hand with the sanctity of life, for example.
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      @AndrewFork @p @Tony @irie @yaboisugoi @mkraiden yeah, I think this defeatist attitude is a mistake. To be clear, we're talking about living mult-generationally, or surrounding ourselves with like minded people and our kin. This is absolutely possible, and not even very difficult provided you can get others on board. The biggest hurdle is social taboo, but there's no real material hurdles preventing people from living with their extended family. In fact, it's easier to do than every young person striking out into the housing market on their own. As for surrounding ourselves with those like us, people already do that pretty regularly even by accident. All one needs to do is add a layer of intention.
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      > coping to the point of insanity

      "Trying to have a good life" is not coping; it's better than wallowing.

      > nor is it good to willingly ignore the suffering of others because it doesn't affect you directly.

      White girls always tryna save something.

      You have finite time, energy, and resources. This means you have to ignore some things in order to get anywhere: giving every suffering person on the earth a fraction of a penny is not going to help anyone. You're useless unless you focus your efforts somewhere that they have a chance of working. Someone that is wallowing and doesn't want to stop wallowing is not someone that you can help.

      > just shut the fuck up, don't try to justify your own malicious behaviour with copes that make no sense, say you're a horrible person and be done with it.

      "I've constructed a morality where 'good' is defined by my pet issue. You are a horrible person for not dropping the things that matter to you in favor of the things that matter to me."
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      @p@fsebugoutzone.org @Tony@clew.lol @irie@fsebugoutzone.org @mkraiden@fsebugoutzone.org @yaboisugoi@fsebugoutzone.org
      coping to the point of insanity is neither good nor positive, nor is it good to willingly ignore the suffering of others because it doesn't affect you directly.

      just shut the fuck up, don't try to justify your own malicious behaviour with copes that make no sense, say you're a horrible person and be done with it.

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      @p @Tony @mkraiden

      for example, this is the UK, Bournemouth in 2025 (video not mine). In a traditionalist UK this would have never happened. Not because the onus would be on keeping other races out, but (unlike the current Liberal paradigm) because its community would define itself by their language, faith in Christ, customs, and loyalty to the Christian crown, in addition to ancestry. Thus without even mentioning race, other races would be kept out of the community.

      Is the Black man strange, or does his behavior, his beliefs, his language, and his gods make him strange? The Nazi on the other hand would reduce this scene entirely to race. While this can feel like stating the obvious, it's a stance that doesn't go beyond the obvious, and even fails to connect those of the same race. Why is the White man my brother if we differ on so many things? Perhaps not so obvious.

      Rather than arguing for abolishing all racial lines, traditionalism would argue that race alone is not enough, but one of several building blocks. Furthermore, one could argue race is the product of people sticking together due to common beliefs and language to create distinct ethnic groups, who are then eventually called a race. This would give cultural forces causality over race.
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      @irie @p @Tony the west is the only place where the ones in charge outright say: your culture is bad and should be replaced. Presumably because the people in charge are non-western occupiers.
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      "Trad is basically pagan but people keep trying to shoehorn in the Arabic religion of Christianity"

      That is a distinct Nazi perspective. You claim that "we the Nazis are trad" etc., which is not surprising. Overall though Nazis are Nazis and Traditionalism is its own position. Nazism, as I already mentioned, builds on materialist assumptions, whether they then sprinkle themselves with pagan or Christian colors is of minor importance.
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      @irie @p @Tony @mkraiden

      Nationalism is ethnic more than racial

      Trad is ethnic=culture=religion

      Big idea is that there is a divine order to both nature and heavens, a shared order

      Trad is basically pagan but people keep trying to shoehorn in the Arabic religion of Christianity

      Read Evola :)
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      Ever notice how unhappy and sometimes suicidal atheists are? Yeah, I can't explain everything in the bible, some of it I think got lost in translation but it can give you peace and happiness. Good trade.
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      Traditionalism is not gnosticism we do understand that reality has a physical part, but we also understand that humanity is not just matter, that psychology matters a lot. Actually, not only a lot, but the soul, the psyche, as the first cause, which then affects the physical world. You make it sound as if everything that deviates from materialism is some hocus pocus pray to the Rain god nonsense but this is such a stupid premise and not at all aligned with reality. The fact is that dualism/transcendentalism, the alternatives to your naturalism, offer much better explanations for the human condition, for how we perceive reality, and for how we measure reality.
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      another materialist quality is to reduce historical developments to pragmatic considerations. You feel hunger, you eat. You want power, you kill. You want sex, you fuck your daughter. It's all so simple and pragmatic.
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      I think that is why it was adopted, but it was not a solution.

      It was not paganism that produced isolated tribes but the lack of modern nations in post-Roman chaos
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      @AndrewFork @p @Tony @irie @mkraiden
      > youre coping
      > copes that don't make sense
      You have two options:
      - Either you conclude 'i cant have X' for some reason and then you have a guaranteed defeat in life
      - or you decide 'im gonna have X no matter what' as a free lottery ticket to success.

      With a choice like that, it's perfectly logical to avoid picking the guaranteed defeat. It 100% makes sense, you're just in denial now.

      Imagime thinking "Oh, the free lottery ticket might be a losing one, so instead i'm going to lose on purpose" - that's wild.

      > not positive
      > it's not good to ignore suffering of others because it doesn't affect you
      1. I live in the same world, it affects me as much as others and it's been pissing me off for many years. I've just made the deliberate choice to not sit back and be the victim of fate. That's positive.

      2. I've consistently been giving advice to others like "hey if you just do X you stop having problem Y and life becomes so much better" and I'm either met with responses of people who are committed to failing for some reason (like from you for example) or they'll do it for about a week and then they go right back to whatever was fucking up their life. And just like that I'm consistently reminded that I don't have control to fix others, therefore I also don't have any responsibility for their failures. That's their job. I can tell them their problem, and if they want, they can fix it. But if they don't want to fix whatever's wrong with them, that's also OK because that's their choice, but it has absolutely nothing to do with me. I have fixed a lot of my problems that I once thought were unfixable when I was younger. It was only my mental attitude getting in the way of trying different things and finding out what works.

      3. Everyone's first responsibility is to first help themselves, before they help others. There are multiple reasons for this. For instance, if you've never fixed anything in your own life, how do you know you have the answer to fix things in others' lives? Or how about - If you don't have the resource to even survive, why are you digging yourself in a hole giving it away to someone else? There are productive priorities in life, and prioritising this "Oh think of the others" sentiment, when your life is not ideal yet, is not it.

      Just because others don't want to listen to sense, doesn't mean I ignore them. I've told them what they have to hear. But when they don't show potential or they drag me down with them, they've made their choice and I still have to move on with my life.

      > justify malicious behaviour
      Imagine making a logical choice to strive for better things being malicious. Now you're the insane one.
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      @yaboisugoi @AndrewFork @Tony @irie @p The most honest tard left contrarian position is: I don't want you to have stuff. Yet they prefer to stand on these phony morals since saying that bluntly doesn't sound good. Stop trying to have things anon! It's called being a heckin good person. :smug3:
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      @p @AndrewFork @Tony @irie @mkraiden @yaboisugoi

      Another translation of this statement: focus on making successes, not subsidizing failures. Applies to your own efforts at work, hobbies, etc. as well as politics.
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      It's just rebranded Platonism
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      @amerika @mkraiden @Tony @irie I think there are distinct things and we don't mean the same thing by "egalitarianism".

      Then there's the Harrison Bergeron thing and I think that's the thing you mean when you say "egalitarianism": an attempt to force equality.

      "Potest ex casa magnvs vir exire." The world is chaotic and you cannot predict it: you have heuristics, but weird shit happens and sometimes the weird shit changes everything. So you avoid putting up artificial barriers that stop great men from coming from huts. A great man is probably not going to come from a hut, but trying to stop great men from coming from huts is an attempt to force inequality; this is the thing I mean when I say "egalitarianism".
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      @mkraiden @irie @Tony @p

      More likely self-hatred

      Egalitarianism induces a pity loop where people are afraid to admit that they are wealthy, successful, etc.
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      Like the infamouse USENET "me too" posts
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      @amerika @Tony Ha, that was the first thing I thought of writing. I figured no one would get it if I called it "AOL bullshit" and "'me too' bullshit" sounded like it'd get confused with "#MeToo bullshit". "+1" actually took a second.
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      @amerika @Tony @mkraiden @p
      I'm sure in your half-disabled mind all things are "just" this or "just" that, and never truly mean anything complex
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      @mkraiden @irie @Tony @amerika Materialism gets better material results; it doesn't do so well with things like meaning.
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      @dj @dcc @Tony @amerika @mkraiden @p
      I mean you don't need to understand everything in the Bible and I would even say very few people actually understand everything in the Bible perhaps certain church fathers or Saints did. We also need to keep in mind that the purpose and the point is not to understand everything in the Bible but the Bible is there in order to help us come to God, because God is the source of Truth and of Life and not the Bible. The Bible helps to guide us, and it was meant to guide us within the sacred tradition of the Church, the Bible is the written tradition and it was assembled and produced by the Church.
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      @dj @dcc @Tony @amerika @irie @p mfw people don't realize greek and roman gods were the best. (good enough for alexander and caesar to take over the world).
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      @irie @Tony @amerika @p tfw no anubis wife. why even live
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      @mkraiden @Tony @amerika @p I mean it's how we, humanity, looked at these things for millennia. It's a very recent development that we started thinking only matter exists. One big advantage of the dualistic transcendental model is that it actually can explain everything, yes some parts of it are not falsifiable, granted, but it can explain everything. One big problem of the materialist model is that it cannot explain everything (look at the so-called hard problem) and it has parts that are not falsifiable (claims about the immaterial) so all in all the materialistic model is at a disadvantage to the traditional model. And to say something about the hard problem, it means there is no explanation for the mind, for human consciousness in the materialistic paradigm (they're working on it, good luck) and that's a big big issue.
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      @irie @Tony @amerika @p thinking of matter as an extension of consciousness is a clever way to look at things, and effective too.
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      @irie @Tony @amerika @p materialism is just a system for taking over the map and controlling land, it's not intended to provide spiritual purpose. Can't have our comfy high-trust soul zone if level 99 gun autists keep beating us at fights.
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      @irie @dj @dcc @Tony @amerika @mkraiden @p it's easy to understand the bible if you divide it in:

      old testament: Hebrews doing bad things and the consequences are "the wrath of God" and some cryptic knowledge

      new testament: Jesus telling people don't be a hedonistic douchebags, giving us the golden law of reciprocity to enjoy the harmony and Saint Pablo helping to understand that golden law with more explaining in their letters.
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      @mkraiden @Tony @amerika @p Materialism can mean many things, among those definitions is the question of reality. You will find materialism, scientific materialism the defacto and default worldview of the current West.
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      @tinosoft @Tony @amerika @dcc @dj @mkraiden @p there is understanding in the big picture and the question of understanding the full extent of every passage. The discussion here was about the latter, which is probably limited to a few Church Fathers and Saints who achieved full illumination. The big picture of the Bible boils down to its general purpose. But what you presented here is something else entirely, namely, the reduction of something irreducibly complex to a sort of caricature. If all problems start with flawed theology, then your approach promises great success.
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      @irie @dj @dcc @Tony @amerika @mkraiden @p ahh, yes, when i was talking about cryptic messages, some passages are pure esoteric interpretations like this
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      @tinosoft @Tony @amerika @dcc @dj @mkraiden @p I prefer to stay on the path of Orthodox Christianity. You will find plenty heresy wherever you look. It's easier to find it than to avoid it.
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      In the philosophical definition, materialism means simply no belief in a metaphysical component to reality.

      The difficulty for us Platonists is the interrupted cause-effect chain this creates.
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      @irie @tinosoft @Tony @dcc @dj @mkraiden @p

      Christianity has failed because dualism has failed.

      It is time for us to have native religions instead.

      Similarly, patriotism has failed because the nation-state has failed.

      Transsexualism has failed because it attempted to displace women.

      Diversity has failed because it is corporate-government culture erasure, open race war, corruption, and eventually, genocide.

      And of course, socialism has failed because it drains societies like a leech and leaves behind third world wastelands.
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      The Old Testament is a race war.
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      Based on what I have seen of life:

      1. It is unlikely that the Bible is literally true.
      2. It is also unlikely that it is fully metaphorically wrong.
      3. Read "Phaedo."
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      @dj @dcc @Tony @amerika @irie @mkraiden @p Some of us can't just switch our brains off and pretend fairytales are real, it doesn't work that way.
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      @mkraiden @amerika @Tony @dcc @dj @irie @tinosoft You see the EMTs cut down the wall and haul the bloated fucker out and you think it's because of his head lice that he died?

      There is no way to have a shared interests with 400m people, that's all. Of course there are going to be people exploiting it to its detriment. The parasite colonies will outlive it and they will still be eating the corpse for a century after it's gone. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whalefall ) But the cause of death is that you can't have a coherent nation-state at the sizes we currently expect, and it's only held together by the attempts from the top to try to force an agenda, and they've largely been successful due to broadcast television and its transition into the mall-internet.

      I don't think the parasites are a monolith, but I also don't think people are going to agree on that.
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        A whale fall occurs when the carcass of a whale has fallen onto the ocean floor, typically at a depth greater than 1,000 m (3,300 ft), putting them in the bathyal or abyssal zones. On the sea floor, these carcasses can create complex localized ecosystems that supply sustenance to deep-sea organisms for decades. In some circumstances, particularly in cases with lower water temperatures, they can be found at much shallower depths, with at least one natural instance recorded at 150 m (500 ft) and multiple experimental instances in the range of 30–382 m (100–1,300 ft). Whale falls were first observed in the late 1970s with the development of deep-sea robotic exploration. Since then, several natural and experimental whale falls have been monitored through the use of observations from submersibles and remotely operated underwater vehicles (ROVs) in order to understand patterns of ecological succession on the deep seafloor. Deep sea whale falls are thought to be hotspots of adaptive radiation for specialized fauna. Organisms that have been observed at deep-sea whale fall sites include chordates, arthropods, cnidarians, echinoderms, mollusks...
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      @amerika @irie @Tony @dcc @dj @p @tinosoft I don't think nation-states "failed" so much as they were deliberately destroyed by a select group of wannabe emperors who had the connections to pull it off.
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      @irie @mkraiden @Tony @p

      https://www.britannica.com/topic/materialism-philosophy/History-of-materialism
      https://www.britannica.com/topic/materialism-philosophy

      https://oecs.mit.edu/pub/be5ufmz2/release/1

      https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/physicalism/

      https://iep.utm.edu/know-arg/
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        Materialism, in philosophy, the view that all facts are causally dependent upon physical processes, or even reducible to them. The word materialism has been used in modern times to refer to mechanical materialism, the theory that the world consists entirely of material objects.
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        Materialism, in philosophy, the view that all facts are causally dependent upon physical processes, or even reducible to them. The word materialism has been used in modern times to refer to mechanical materialism, the theory that the world consists entirely of material objects.
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      @scarecrow @amerika @Tony @dcc @dj @irie @mkraiden @tinosoft I don't think Donald Trump is responsible for politicizing the issue.
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      >Transsexualism has failed because it attempted to displace women.
      transsexualism isnt political in the least, its not a movement, its just a current punching bag a pedophile used to get elected. Even the stuff they use to untran trannys is just recycled conversion therapy from the same playbook in the 90s and oughts. DUMB MOTHER FUCKER SHOULDNT EVEN BE THINKING ABOUT TRANNYS YOU STUPID TV BRAINED NPC NIGGER.
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      @amerika @Tony @dcc @dj @irie @p @tinosoft Bureaucracies have life cycles just like empires, but another one replaces them every time they die.
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      @mkraiden @Tony @dcc @dj @irie @p @tinosoft

      Maybe, but in my view, this is a result of the instability of the State: it must keep growing to afford its own expanding bureaucratic bloat.
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      @ThatWouldBeTelling @AndrewFork @Tony @irie @mkraiden @p @veinglory @yaboisugoi

      Wikipedia hates both Jews and actual Whites, so this is not surprising.
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      @amerika @AndrewFork @Tony @irie @mkraiden @p @veinglory @yaboisugoi For some inexplicable reason Wikipedians renamed the "Hajnal Line" article to the one I linked to, "Western European marriage pattern."

      Hmmm, Hajnal is was a Jew..., so I guess this is a no white adjacent male is allowed glory if we can get away with it.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hajnal

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      @veinglory @AndrewFork @Tony @irie @mkraiden @p @yaboisugoi Thing is, for those who made "the West" it's a survival mechanism for hard times. Married couples should be forming their own households (and avoiding the longhouse pattern) but far too many can't in the US and other parts of the West.

      Might also note being a renter is associated with significantly higher stress....

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_European_marriage_pattern

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      @ThatWouldBeTelling @veinglory @AndrewFork @Tony @irie @mkraiden @p @yaboisugoi

      Gotta mention the Hajnal Line here
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      @mkraiden @Tony @dcc @dj @irie @p @tinosoft

      They are more like a parasitic growth.
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      @amerika @Tony @dcc @dj @irie @p @tinosoft nobody ever controlled their population expansion before birth control, and now that they are doing that they're disappearing themselves demographically
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      @mkraiden @dj @dcc @amerika @irie @p @tinosoft How did a conversation about moderating users and Tony getting hate mobbed turn into a multi day, whats the word, political ideology coversation?

      whatever

      happy sunday
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      @Tony @mkraiden @amerika @dcc @dj @irie @tinosoft I think "How did this conversation wander?" is the hellmouth, a step in the transition from thread to hellthread.
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      @mkraiden @Tony @amerika @dcc @dj @irie @tinosoft The Nordic Countries are EU and they're all beholden to the EU/US banking system, a modernist project that they'd been trying to force as a means of control since the end of the 19th century when "scientific" turned into a buzzword for governance. (It turned into a buzzword around the same time "Christian Science" arrived to anoint people with oil rather than letting them see a doctor, because "science" did not seem to mean the same thing. Marx repeatedly described his system as "scientific".)

      > There was no death of natural causes, it was a deliberate extermination.

      I didn't say natural causes, I said bloat. The countries do not get as big as this without cause. The parasites and the people supplying the cause are not the same people.
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      @p @Tony @amerika @dcc @dj @irie @tinosoft nordic countries had populations of 10 million and the same attack was made on them. Cities of 1 million or less, same thing. There was no death of natural causes, it was a deliberate extermination.
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      @p @Tony @amerika @dcc @dj @irie @tinosoft step bro... what are you saying?
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      @mkraiden @Tony @amerika @dcc @dj @irie @tinosoft I don't know, conversations always wander but--but!--usually people wonder how that happened right before the screams of the damned:
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