@tinosoft @Tony @amerika @dcc @dj @mkraiden @p there is understanding in the big picture and the question of understanding the full extent of every passage. The discussion here was about the latter, which is probably limited to a few Church Fathers and Saints who achieved full illumination. The big picture of the Bible boils down to its general purpose. But what you presented here is something else entirely, namely, the reduction of something irreducibly complex to a sort of caricature. If all problems start with flawed theology, then your approach promises great success.