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Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 21:29:32 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

There's boon a lot of talk this week about Protestantism vs. Catholicism so I thought I would do my best to irritate both sides as you enjoy your Sunday coffee.

First I just want to recap my journey to faith as I think its somewhat relevant.

I grew up in a dead Christian Church (Lutheran if it matters) and even attended the school attached to the Church. If Jesus was a factor in any person's life involved with that Church that would honestly come as a surprise to me with one exception. This was in the 70's and I think one of the teachers may have been a part of the Jesus movement.

The whole thing seemed like an exercise in mere habit and tradition. I was not a believer and in fact was hostile to the whole enterprise. I am high IQ and mildly autistic so I have zero use for fake, hypocritical or the merely social.

When I was 18 I was working in a kitchen and one of my co-workers was a very vocal Christian who began to witness to me. At some point I had an encounter with God and became a believer.

Just one problem time after time and Church after Church I found the Church to be garbage and that's being kind. I know there are people right now firing up their laptops and preparing to say that I just need to attend their Church.

(eye roll) yeah, I've been a believer for forty years and have attended a ton of Churches. I'll just repeat what I have said several times already: I think the Church (all churches) have been defeated, This should not come as a great surprise as Scripture warns us that...

For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Acts 20:29

Also I would remind you that among the letters in Revelation only two of the Churches receive attaboys and five are harshly rebuked so lets not imagine that its ever been easy to have living Churches that were doing it right.

The Church today is anti-White, anti-Male, and frankly more often than not anti-God.

Personally i reject all previous Christian categories for one specific reason: they have all failed spectacularly. I believe as Scripture tells us that Churches can lose their lampstand, Gods blessing and imprimatur.

So when I came to believe I began to read the Bible and I saw the a Church on fire. With problems to be sure, but on fire in a way that is wholly lacking today and when I asked where I could find a Church like what I saw in the Bible I was told that no longer existed. So I call myself a Book Of Acts Christian.

I think we need to come out of the corrupt failed thing today and just gather together in homes.

What say you?

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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 21:33:41 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @Escoffier I love that rather than rejecting faith you realized it was a people problem. It took me a lot longer to see that, but here I am today. If there's no physical church that's spiritually meeting your needs, a house church is great. I do believe in the importance of Christian fellowship, and perhaps a Bible Study or some other semi regular thing would help there.
  
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  Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 21:57:53 JST Escoffier Gab refugee
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  @BowsacNoodle I have been in super real fellowships which were inevitably small group and in homes. I'm sure that influences my thinking.
  
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  givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 21:57:53 JST givenup
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  @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle i've only went to like 2 churches in my life
  
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  ElJewpacabra (jewpacabra@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 22:09:18 JST ElJewpacabra
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  @BowsacNoodle @Escoffier I went through the same “hostility” if you will although for me it was a loss of conviction and an indifference.
  
  btw people are beginning to meet in homes again. I don’t think people are willing to let go of that spark of light that Christ puts in us, but I think they can see that the wolves have assumed the role of shepherds. Fellowship is incredibly important. it’s not a surprise to me that as our nation and communities were atomized; that as soon as we stopped slaughtering the wicked and the evil, the evil and wicked took the pulpit and the crown and led the flock to the slaughterhouse.
  
  I wish it didn’t feel like walking through a minefield to find folks like you all to come together and find fellowship with.
  
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  @Jewpacabra @BowsacNoodle >I wish it didn’t feel like walking through a minefield to find folks like you all to come together and find fellowship with.
  
  That is the hard part. Most Churches today are so eaten up with Dispensationalism (I love Israel) or Progressivism (anti-racism replacing every Christian doctrine) that they are functionally worthless. So how do we gather together as dissident believers?
  
  I don't know but I think its an important question.
  
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  Winged Hussar (wingedhussar@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 01:54:51 JST Winged Hussar
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  @SK1ZM @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle @Jewpacabra You mean something based on 50,000 years of the White mans peaceful interaction with nature? I wonder where you'd find such a faith.
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  ElJewpacabra (jewpacabra@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 01:54:51 JST ElJewpacabra
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  @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle I think going forward what we have will be an amalgamation of the two. Reverence for our ancestors and their observations of the world, but also enough reverence for our racial brothers to diffuse hyper tribalism and build the ethnostate America should’ve been under the national love of Christ before (((industrialist))) (((parasites))) and the wicked assumed command.
  
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  SKiZM :confederate: (sk1zm@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 01:54:52 JST SKiZM :confederate:
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  Oh idk it sounds like we need an Aryan based religion? 😤
  
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  thefinn (thefinn@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 01:55:42 JST thefinn
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  @Jewpacabra @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle Yeah, there's checks and balances under monarchy just as much as any democratic government.
  
  In fact I'd argue they are far more strict too, because usually the outcome for the leaders is death if they fuck with people too badly.
  
  America kinda proves that this isn't the case with democracy. There's nobody who is there to take ultimate responsibility.
  
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  Dr. Detroit (placebo@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 01:55:42 JST Dr. Detroit
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  @thefinn @Jewpacabra @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle A monarch has to live with long term failures whereas a president or prime minister only has to delay problems a few years. A monarch also has to consider his children's and grandchildren's position. And my favorite thing about monarchy - other than the founder of a dynasty, a monarch does not owe anyone any political favors for his position.
  
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  thefinn (thefinn@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 01:55:43 JST thefinn
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  @Jewpacabra @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle I honestly think what you're describing there is monarchy.
  
  You give legitimacy to a King by having him crowned by the pope or by a Bishop or higher.
  
  You give legitimacy to the Church by having a king there "under god"
  
  Which is the same language used for America - but a politician's life doesn't count on it - so it is ignored and lends nothing to the legitimacy of the church.
  
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  ElJewpacabra (jewpacabra@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 01:55:43 JST ElJewpacabra
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  @thefinn @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle It was actually a post of yours back on blab about coming to a realization about Monarchy that led me down the path to explore the legitimacy of it (and also cleaving barbarians in two in Kingdom Come: Deliverance)
  
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  Winged Hussar (wingedhussar@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 02:05:17 JST Winged Hussar
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  @Jewpacabra @SK1ZM @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle I just don't understand the role of Christianity in a White society. We are not of the land where that faith came from. All its major holidays are just pagan holidays with "Jesus" written overtop of it. It has nothing to do with how we interact with the natural world. Now its just being used to destroy us and strengthen the jew
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 02:05:17 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @wingedhussar @Jewpacabra @SK1ZM @Escoffier >named Winged Hussar
  >What role does Christianity play in White society
  Curious.
  Sweet name btw.
  
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  white_male (white_male@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 02:28:21 JST white_male
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  @Jewpacabra @BowsacNoodle @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier Buddy, Germans or Germanic tribes christened half of Europe themselves.
  
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  ElJewpacabra (jewpacabra@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 02:28:21 JST ElJewpacabra
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  @white_male @BowsacNoodle @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier true but they didn’t live through the absolute destruction and humiliation that’s been wrought down on them post WW2 though. it’s a different time
  
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  white_male (white_male@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 02:28:22 JST white_male
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  @BowsacNoodle @wingedhussar @Jewpacabra @SK1ZM @Escoffier Hung up on historical and militaristic aspect, but ignorant of culture on which those are built. Must've touched fedora at some point.
  
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  ElJewpacabra (jewpacabra@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 02:28:22 JST ElJewpacabra
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  @white_male @BowsacNoodle @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier He’s just European and they’ve seen pretty awful things in their lifetime so o really try to have sympathy about how nihilistic or negative about certain topics people can be. They didn’t live through the time where Christian wonders and joy was abounding. Especially Germans.
  
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  Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 02:29:44 JST Escoffier Gab refugee
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  @wingedhussar @Jewpacabra @SK1ZM @BowsacNoodle I guess we'll see but I disagree.
  
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  Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 02:29:45 JST Escoffier Gab refugee
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  @wingedhussar @Jewpacabra @SK1ZM @BowsacNoodle >I just don't understand the role of Christianity in a White society.
  
  Well as Europe became known as Christendom i'd have to say quite a bit. It was been a stronghold for our people for a very long time.
  
  >We are not of the land where that faith came from
  
  Non sequitur
  
  >All its major holidays are just pagan holidays with "Jesus" written overtop of it.
  
  Actually untrue though it is a commonly held belief.
  
  >It has nothing to do with how we interact with the natural world.
  
  It may surprise you to learn that it most certainly does to Christians.
  
  >Now its just being used to destroy us and strengthen the jew
  
  Yep. yet for millenia Christianity was openly racial, misogynist, homophobic, and antiSemetic up until about the mid 1850's. Get back to real Christianity and you get back to these good things too.
  
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  Winged Hussar (wingedhussar@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 02:29:45 JST Winged Hussar
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  @Escoffier @Jewpacabra @SK1ZM @BowsacNoodle White people have been pagan far longer than christian. In historical terms its a passing trend, and on its way out.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 02:32:09 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @wingedhussar @Escoffier @Jewpacabra @SK1ZM Christianity unified Europe. The fact that I even know about Winged Hussar is because of Christianity.
  
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  givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 02:33:10 JST givenup
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  @BowsacNoodle @Escoffier @Jewpacabra @SK1ZM >unified Europe
  >2000 years of endless wars over how to worship a dead jew
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 02:40:39 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @wingedhussar @Escoffier @Jewpacabra @SK1ZM And yet you're not subject to Ottoman rule today because of Europe uniting under Christianity. People know about the winged hussar because of The Battle Of Vienna. Christ rejected everything that modern Judaism and modern jews stand for, and it's written down as such. Cope and seethe brother, but most of your and my ancestors for the last 1,200+ years were Christian.
  
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  ElJewpacabra (jewpacabra@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 02:49:17 JST ElJewpacabra
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  @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle well imo it was the general outlook on the importance of ALL parts of society and a guideline for the more intelligent “priest class” to also instill in the “brawn but maybe no brains” warrior class and ultimately the King who was mentally equipped (by God) to handle all of it and to make sure everyone understood and appreciated their lot in life. Because again, equality is bullshit and we all have our roles to play.
  
  That’s just how I view it though.
  
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  petra (petra@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 06:58:26 JST petra
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  @epictittus @thefinn @Jewpacabra @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle During Covid services in Church buildings were banned in our country.
  
  They simply continued in individual homes in small groups.
  
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  Semilexic (epictittus@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 06:58:27 JST Semilexic
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  @thefinn @Jewpacabra @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle It is monarchy, and what we need is a full, feudal monarchy with no "rights" that are written by men, only rights given by God, and everything else negotiated with a bullet. The feudal serfs and peasants always enjoyed 'rights' and privileges that werent written in any book, because their feudal lord knew the peasants could fucking MURDER him. Now imagine if every person in America had mandatory open carry of a rifle or firearm. Yes, there would be more gunfights. But also, the police would watch their fucking step. The politicians would not be petit tyrants.
  
  A church in the home is a reflexive and defensive reaction to the destruction of the communal church by an invading power. When Turks invaded Greeks, the Greek church had to go into the home. When Jews seized power in Russia, the Russian church had to go underground. Now the West is occupied by Jews, and the church is safest in the home. Still, we may leave the building, but never give up the Church and communion with our entire Christian nation, it is important to fight for the churches. Even if the enemy burns them, throw yourself into the fire. Young Vladimir Putin was baptized by his mother and grandfather, who snuck him in the dead of night, into an abandoned, ransacked and boarded-up church, so the child would be Christian.
  
  Paganism kind of worked for Rome because if they liked a foreign pagan god, they took it. This is literally how paganism works, the reason there are many gods is because each town had ONE (monotheistic), and as the kingdom expands over many towns, more are added. For example Zeus is a copy of a Babylonian god, Belial, and originally Zeus was called Bel Zeus. Belial is an akkadian corruption and perversion of God the Father. Another example of pagans taking one extra god is when pagan Greeks and pagan Romans took Christianity. And Europe has had Christianity for 2000 years, which is way longer than Odin or any other pagan deity. Jesus Christ is LITERALLY the God of our ancestors.
  
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  ElJewpacabra (jewpacabra@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 08:09:27 JST ElJewpacabra
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  @VaxxSabbath @epictittus @thefinn @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle >it is very clear, though, that old models and assumptions are not going to be a good guide for where we're headed
  
  The Russo-Ukraine war is proving this daily. Nevertheless, we adapt and the lessons from tradition and history are still relevant, even if they require some… upgrades… at the hypersonic rate of Mach: Fuck.
  
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  Växẍ Säbbäth (vaxxsabbath@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 08:09:28 JST Växẍ Säbbäth
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  @epictittus @thefinn @Jewpacabra @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle the complicator here is "technological power"
  in feudal times, the ability to concentrate force was limited by very insurmountable structural problems; anything requiring "bodies" meant that you were relying on people who had, at the very minimum, the ability to change their minds
  and anything you wanted to do required lots of those bodies - building things, fighting wars, searching for fugitives, standing guard
  in order to make sure those people were doing what you wanted them to do, you needed more people at levels closer to your own, meaning that you surrendered some part of your power to ensure that you were still able to control your organization effectively, but that left you vulnerable to those managers changing their minds and using their authority over the people they were placed over to usurp yours ("elite circulation")
  technology has made it possible to reduce the number of bodies for those tasks, by ensuring that they do not need to be all the places they used to need to be: instead of 1,000 guards patrolling the landscape, you need 20 dudes kitted out to the nines chilling in a barracks until the automated face-scanner plugged into your surveillance Panopticon tells you exactly where your bad-guy is and tracks him, at which point your squad shows up with a helicopter and a Bearcat and either waste him or roll him up, and you will get whichever of those outcomes you choose >99% of the time
  more importantly, instead of worrying about what subset of that 1,000 dudes you used to need thinks about you and your policies, now you just need to make sure that those 20 dudes are happy and naturally inclined to participate in your program for reasons of sociopathy or personal gain; more importantly, you can keep tabs on each one of those 20 dudes yourself, or with a very flattened organization, making damn-sure they don't go off the reservation (and getting rid of them quickly if they do)
  where things go from here is not clear, because this is not a condition that has existed before in human history (as far as we know); "Dune" represents one such envisioning, but many of the ideas inside it are fantastic (nobody would just give up "thinking machines") and that makes it a bad map
  it is very clear, though, that old models and assumptions are not going to be a good guide for where we're headed
  
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  Semilexic (epictittus@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 08:10:36 JST Semilexic
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  @VaxxSabbath @thefinn @Jewpacabra @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle Overthinking it, technology isnt demons, or inherently evil.
  
  Like you said originally, tech is a force multiplier.
  
  What happened since industrial revolution is that evil people were the FIRST to grab technology and they used it to oppress people. The good people didnt even think about using tech to oppress and kill huge numbers of people.
  
  What we need is to get force multipliers into the hands of righteous people and oppose the kikes and their servants.
  
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  @epictittus @thefinn @Jewpacabra @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle yes, "democratization of force" is part of the answer; if regular people have force-parity with those 20 dudes on Squeal Team Six, then their ability to project that power returns to "feudal" levels
  how does that happen, though? the pathway from "here" to "there" is murky
  part of it seems to be the proliferation of "maker" communities; they are by definition a series of dual-use technologies, and they get better all the time
  part of it is Moore's law and part of it is open-source software (and particularly AI models); these leverage the forces of commoditization, and you wind up with things like "low-cost drone swarms" that are fieldable using "dedicated individual" levels of capital
  the big sticking point appears to be what we will euphemistically refer to as "energetic compounds"; minus those, drones are toys, and the production pipelines for such things are subject to rather a lot of scrutiny
  I have the feeling that the first anon who drops a process diagram and parts list to construct the first open-source nitration machine (starting from the Haber process) will be more momentous and have a larger social effect than Satoshi Nakamoto
  
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  Semilexic (epictittus@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 08:10:37 JST Semilexic
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  @VaxxSabbath @thefinn @Jewpacabra @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle Yes this is also something I noticed, its a tech issue. This is why monarchy must be imposed politically, and an eternal war of extermination waged on democracy and socialism.
  
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  @epictittus @thefinn @Jewpacabra @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle that doesn't solve the "tech" part of the problem though, which is the sole determining factor of what the landscape of the future looks like
  I have the feeling that our elites may not be entirely wrong about their vision of the future, where 95% of the current mass of humanity has been killed, and the rest toil in barely-tolerable inhuman servitude to an anointed elite that spends its days in child rape, murder, and Ba'al-worship, which is able to maintain that state indefinitely due to their position at the central point of an unassailable control matrix
  if you look closely, we are very close to that state right now; the one thing in our favor is that centrifugal and decay forces are (still) capable of undermining the ability of this system to regenerate its own infrastructure, meaning that they still "need" most of the pieces and (White) people they are unwisely now trying to get rid of
  however, it is not unthinkable that they might solve that problem, making it possible for a much smaller technological core to regenerate itself indefinitely given sufficient energy to do so; if that state ever obtains, there is then nothing stopping them from their gay eternal iron prison other than God, who I hope at that point will come soon
  
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  @VaxxSabbath @epictittus @thefinn @Jewpacabra @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier >open-source nitration machine (starting from the Haber process)
  Is this really something people need? I'm imagining farming but it's probably for other reasons.
  
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  @VaxxSabbath @thefinn @Jewpacabra @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle I talked about this on gab, HMX is king. It can be used for everything from firearms propellant to shell filler.
  
  The 3d printer revolutionized engineering. The DNA printer revolutionized biology. The third leg of that stool is a reliable chemical printer
  
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  @epictittus @VaxxSabbath @thefinn @Jewpacabra @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier Chemical printer? As in reactions behind the scenes to make necessary reagents for specific things? That's a wild idea, almost replicator tier.
  
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  ElJewpacabra (jewpacabra@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 08:18:00 JST ElJewpacabra
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  @epictittus @VaxxSabbath @thefinn @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle Did someone say 3D printer? 👀
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  Tactless Wookie (tactlesswookie@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 08:18:00 JST Tactless Wookie
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  @Jewpacabra @epictittus @VaxxSabbath @thefinn @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier @BowsacNoodle I have a DD43.1 frame printing right now.
  
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  Semilexic (epictittus@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 08:18:45 JST Semilexic
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  @BowsacNoodle @VaxxSabbath @thefinn @Jewpacabra @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier An easybake chemistry set where you pour in precursors and it cooks and mixes internally from a downloadef recipe and spits out a result would be incredibly valuable and popular.
  
  There are entire sectors of economy locked away behind the inherent lack of control between the customer a!d a large chemical factory supplying products from large vats.
  
  Off the top of my head, anything involving paint, cosmetics...
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 08:22:16 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @epictittus @VaxxSabbath @thefinn @Jewpacabra @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier Most of the polymer stuff is surprisingly easy to DIY. You can buy monomers for cheap and build a simple thing in your garage for it. 3D printers are just the next step of thay. If you start getting more complicated, the chemistry becomes more compartmentalized and the yields are less perfect. Theoretical maximum yield is almost never achieved in a home or student lab, and sometimes hard to hit in industrial. You can't do full easybake oven chemistry until you figure out how to make the waste into something less volatile and deal with the storage problem.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 08:26:20 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @epictittus @VaxxSabbath @thefinn @Jewpacabra @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier Trying to think more about this though... it would probably be doable to have something that can handle specific things in a DIY capacity or with assistance. One could theoretically train a few "ai models" on chem and then the practical application given XYZ components. I'm picturing like a beefier version of a soldering station but with hot plates and it has a screen that tells you the next step, possibly voice guided or with specific answers given to you by the LLM to any questions you have.
  
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  ElJewpacabra (jewpacabra@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 08:27:02 JST ElJewpacabra
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  @BowsacNoodle @epictittus @VaxxSabbath @thefinn @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier As the technology progresses, it will get easier and easier to print more complicated, sturdier, pieces with less error. Same thing happened with CNC. It’s revolutionary for sure, especially as some guns start to be built with more and more polymer.
  
  Think the Luty from WW2 except no one has to run to the hardware store and everyone can just download a file, print, and then assemble in their living room.
  
  This is just one avenue of force equalization though because ammunition has yet to become printable and easily manufactured for the average builder.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 08:27:32 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @Jewpacabra @epictittus @VaxxSabbath @thefinn @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier Sci-fi solved this problem with energy weapons.
  
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  Växẍ Säbbäth (vaxxsabbath@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 10:55:12 JST Växẍ Säbbäth
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  @BowsacNoodle @epictittus @thefinn @Jewpacabra @wingedhussar @SK1ZM @Escoffier well, think about it:
  there's tons of people working on "how to make a 3D-printed gun"
  and there are lots of designs, many of which are very good
  however, all of those designs are essentially rocks until you add the critically-needed component, which is "ammunition", which in turn has a critical component that is easily-throttled: "smokeless gunpowder", i.e. nitrocellulose
  in other words, in order to have a functional weapon, your logistics chain terminates in "whoever can nitrate cellulose at scale safely" - and there's not that many sources of that, and all of them are heavily scrutinized
  there's tons of people working on "how to make a lethal autonomous drone"
  and there are lots of designs, many of which are very good
  however, all of those designs are essentially toys until you add the critically-needed component, which is "a grenade", which in turn has a critical component that is easily-throttled: "industrially-produced energetic compounds"
  in other words, in order to turn that drone into a functional weapon, your logistics chain terminates in "whoever can nitrate various other organic feedstocks at scale safely" - and there are not many sources of those either, all of which are heavily scrutinized
  the problem is that most of the pathways to producing those sorts of things have been well-mapped and the feedstocks for them monitored, diversions from which are deterred scrupulously; to get anywhere without diversion, you have to go all the way back to the Haber and Ostwald processes, which are most economic at scale and which are, if not difficult to implement, at least inconvenient (owing to lack of "democratization", so to speak)
  the person who comes up with a design for a quiet, MASINT-resistant, economically-constructable small-scale Haber-Ostwald generator that sucks in natural gas or hydrogen in one end and shits ammonia and nitric acid out the other is the one who changes a very big portion of this game
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 11:16:45 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @VaxxSabbath @epictittus @thefinn @Jewpacabra @SK1ZM @Escoffier I was thinking it was related to this. Haber and Oswald both take a lot to get moving, specifically heavy catalysts. It would be more prudent to look into ye olde worlde traditional methods of gunpowder manufacturing, or see if there's a sort of "bio-mining" strategy available. Traditionally tannery work and methods was chemistry from available animal and human waste. They used things like urine and feces coating a straw wall exposed to wind and sun as a way to create crystalized sulfur (i think?). There's a lot that can be done with urine in particular. Gross but real.
  
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  Semilexic (epictittus@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 11:56:10 JST Semilexic
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  @BowsacNoodle @VaxxSabbath @thefinn @Jewpacabra @SK1ZM @Escoffier No, straw and piss to make nitrate. Let it sit for awhile for bacteria to work on it, then strain it through wood ash, which gives the potassium. Set the wood ash aside and crystals of potassium nitrate will form as it dries (maybe wind for that??).
  
  Mix potassium nitrate 80/20 with charcoal to make gunpowder. Make it burn better by mixing in sulfur or powdered rust at 10% to the other mixture by weight.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 11:56:10 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @epictittus @VaxxSabbath @thefinn @Jewpacabra @SK1ZM @Escoffier Thanks, I couldn't recall. I think the wind helps it dry and crystalize, so yes. I know "Sewer Gas" is H2S, so that's a sulfur source if needed. Vat with an exhaust tube to collect and burn and viola sulfur. There's likely a few better sources, but that's passive. The question would combining a few of those processes into a small scale bio reactor. Also urine to ammonia can be done in several ways. Urease is an enzyme found in a lot of places that converts urea to ammonia + CO2. That's found in pea seeds and watermelon seeds and a lot of other things.
  
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  ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 13:34:00 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
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  @BowsacNoodle @epictittus @VaxxSabbath @thefinn @Jewpacabra @SK1ZM @Escoffier This conversation is awesome. So many of our critical industrial processes depend upon steady large-scale production of nitric and sulfuric acid, and sodium/potassium hydroxide; securing these by whatever means available (some are pretty gross) will greatly speed up any necessary rebuild effort.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 13:38:51 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @KingOfWhiteAmerica @epictittus @VaxxSabbath @thefinn @Jewpacabra @SK1ZM @Escoffier Yeah it's legitimately good info to have for a SHTF or societal extinction level event. There's a lot of cool stuff we don't do because it's gross, but something as simple as changing how septic tanks could possibly allow for DIY harvesting of some of these for a small to medium scale farm. You could certainly get enough to take care of a few acres between this + manure and possibly have more left over for black powder for your own munitions for defense or hunting.
  
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