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   Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 19:04:50 JST Sick Sun
   this video was as stressful as setting up a printer myself, which made it not fun to watch
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     Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 19:06:27 JST Zergling_man

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     @sun oh no I deliberately invited a demon into my home and now I am cursed, how could this possibly be happening to me
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 19:07:06 JST Sick Sun

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     @raccoon This is why I stick with Ubuntu, almost everything just works. Not knocking other distros, just Ubuntu is so "standard".
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     Trash Panda (raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 19:07:07 JST Trash Panda

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     @sun@shitposter.world
     Still can't get a printer to work on arch, same printer worked OOTB on mint.
     I'm so annoyed.

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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 19:09:42 JST Sick Sun

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     The premise of the video was "I buy a new-in-box s5 year old printer, and set it up on period-accurate hardware and then print things".
     
     It is hard enough getting a present-day printer working on present-day Windows, let alone setting up a parallel port printer in Windows 3.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 19:11:20 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @Zergling_man @sun Well it could be a funny thing to watch though.
     Like disasters happening to people represents a lot of youtube videos.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 19:12:22 JST Sick Sun

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     @lanodan @Zergling_man He did invite his viewers to tell their own printer horror stories in the comment section, which was fun.
     
     The last printer I owned was an HP, and it finally angered me so bad that I picked it up, took it outside and threw it as hard as I could at the cement driveway, in rage. I have never owned a printer since then and I never will. The rare times I need to print, I take it to a FedEx Store.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 19:15:25 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @sun @Zergling_man Pretty happy with my brother laser printer but yeah, printers are quite hell.
     
     Scanners meanwhile? Fuck them, I typically just use my photo camera instead.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 19:16:32 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:
     @mangeurdenuage @Zergling_man @sun And FSFv2 would also have one job.
     
     (Funnily the only reason printers are getting better is due to things the FSF would choke on)
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     mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 19:16:33 JST mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:

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     @sun @lanodan @Zergling_man Printers are the curse of the computer world, they're still the thing that would start a second FSF movement imo.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 19:18:03 JST Sick Sun

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     @lanodan @Zergling_man I tried to find a good standalone flatbed scanner and it seems like the market is now almost 100% cheap shitty ones, and a few super expensive ones.
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     Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 19:19:29 JST Zergling_man

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     @lanodan @sun Scanners don't have proprietary ink cartridges though so can they really be worse than printers?
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 19:19:29 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @Zergling_man @sun Oh yeah, the firmware of scanners is always hosed.
     
     Also proprietary cartridges is yet another issue with inkjets but even with rechargeable ones (pro laser printers are btw) inkjets are high-maintenance horseshit which everyone should have stopped buying ~10 years ago.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 19:19:38 JST Sick Sun

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     @lanodan @Zergling_man you're rioght though, I just take a picture of documents with my phone and whomever receives them just has to deal with it
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 19:20:25 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @mangeurdenuage @Zergling_man @sun look up AirPrint® :P
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     mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 19:20:27 JST mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:

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     @lanodan @Zergling_man @sun
     >is due to things the FSF would choke on
     Freedom ?
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 19:20:48 JST Sick Sun

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     @Zergling_man @lanodan most scanners now are all in one scanner/printers, and some of them do in fact require fresh ink cartridges before they will even scan! There was a lawsuit against Canon for this, and HP has started doing it.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 20:59:09 JST 翠星石

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     @lanodan >the only reason printers are getting better
     What are you even on about?
     
     Printers are getting worse and even less reliable.
     
     I've come across a HP printer that had a "don't plug this in, use wireless" sticker over the usb connector and surprise, surprise wireless did not work, but wired did at first (but soon proceeded to stop working).
     
     
     Sure more now supports IPP, but even then they always find a way to fail to print.
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     Susanna (susie@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 22:01:39 JST Susanna

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     @sun Meanwhile my 80s dot matrix printer manual came with a programming guide to make your own drivers, because it predates drivers (every command's escape codes written out etc). Too bad modern software only prints in graphics mode! :ablobcatbongoangry:
     
     "Yes please, print this text document as an image" :ablobcatgooglytrash:
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     skylar :confederateflag:??? :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 22:33:37 JST skylar :confederateflag:??? :z:

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     @sun fixed
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 23:01:46 JST 翠星石

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     @mangeurdenuage @idiot https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-hardware-designs.en.html
     
     There is a "Digital Freedom Foundation" that may be want you want; https://digitalfreedoms.org/hfd
     
     Although, my GNU/bro has told me that he smells a proprietary rat within the foundation, as he found that many things they publish are under proprietary licenses and a related blog recommends proprietary things and doesn't accept patches, as the author refuses to publish the blog article markup under a free license.
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     mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 23:01:48 JST mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:

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     @idiot @Zergling_man @lanodan @sun
     Need a FCF, Foundation for Computing Freedom.
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     Dumb Idiot Retard (idiot@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 23:01:49 JST Dumb Idiot Retard

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     @mangeurdenuage @sun @Zergling_man @lanodan I keep telling people "we need a Free Hardware Foundation" and everyone keeps not taking me seriously yet retracing my logic from first principles back to the same conclusion.
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 23:19:34 JST Pawlicker

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     @Zergling_man @lanodan @sun watched the video his issue was dried up ink
     He should have gone with a printer easier to obtain ink and print heads for like the old HP desk jets
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 23:19:35 JST Pawlicker

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     @Zergling_man @lanodan @sun nobody will do anything because everyone gave up on printers and cargo cults them as demonic boxes that don't do anything.
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     Account: Computers (pro@mu.zaitcev.nu)'s status on Thursday, 30-May-2024 05:42:39 JST Account: Computers

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     @sun @lanodan @Zergling_man Sadly I have to print every day. I mail a couple of parcels every day for my eBay side hustle. Every one of them needs a short letter and a documentation cum insert leaflet. My printer is a Brother 2740. It's been solid for many years. Full support under Linux. Picks paper no matter how thick the stack is, down to the last sheet. HP is generally trash in my experience. The last good printer they did was LaserJet 4.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 30-May-2024 05:42:42 JST Sick Sun

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     @pro @lanodan @Zergling_man I agree with this
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     mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 30-May-2024 06:27:00 JST mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:

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     @idiot @romin @ThatWouldBeTelling @Zergling_man @lanodan @sun Forgetting the openPower initiative by IBM.
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     Dumb Idiot Retard (idiot@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 30-May-2024 06:27:00 JST Dumb Idiot Retard

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     @mangeurdenuage @ThatWouldBeTelling @Zergling_man @lanodan @romin @sun Not pictured: 160W rated TDP, miniITX-levels of connectivity in an mATX-sized motherboard, next-generation POWER isn't actually libre because IBM reasons
     I'm already roasting to death in the summer with a 65W CPU.
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     Dumb Idiot Retard (idiot@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 30-May-2024 06:27:01 JST Dumb Idiot Retard

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     @romin @ThatWouldBeTelling @Zergling_man @lanodan @mangeurdenuage @sun It is what it is. I was excited for ARM until the market got cornered by Apple, Samsung, and Qualcomm.
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     ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 30-May-2024 06:27:02 JST ロミンちゃん

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     @idiot @ThatWouldBeTelling @Zergling_man @lanodan @mangeurdenuage @sun
     >RISC-V
     >no carry flag
     wow such useful
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     ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 30-May-2024 06:27:03 JST ロミンちゃん

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     @idiot @ThatWouldBeTelling @Zergling_man @lanodan @mangeurdenuage @sun
     >The correct answer for Free Hardware
     except fabs are a 8-9fig endeavor, free hardware isn't something we're gonna see in our lifetimes
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     Dumb Idiot Retard (idiot@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 30-May-2024 06:27:03 JST Dumb Idiot Retard

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     @romin @ThatWouldBeTelling @Zergling_man @lanodan @mangeurdenuage @sun There's a lot of good developments in the RISC-V space....... and that's about it, and it only exists because some corporation somewhere allowed it to. Maddening.
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     Dumb Idiot Retard (idiot@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 30-May-2024 06:27:04 JST Dumb Idiot Retard

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     @ThatWouldBeTelling @mangeurdenuage @Zergling_man @lanodan @sun Free Software was built by a bunch of guys sharing software and building on top of it. The correct answer for Free Hardware is sharing schematics, drawings, and BOMs, and assembling the computer/printer/whatever together your own bad self.
     The problem is that Electrical Engineers with a love of freedom are a lot scarcer to come by than programmers. Even if the FTC ruling doesn't get overturned and there's no more non-competes ever again (rest in piss), you're still asking a professional engineer that gets at least six digits to work in their spare time for free.
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     That Would Be Telling (thatwouldbetelling@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 30-May-2024 06:27:05 JST That Would Be Telling

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     @mangeurdenuage @idiot @Zergling_man @lanodan @sun You also need a lot of money especially if you want your hardware to be affordable, and much, much better governance than the FSF for example.

     For profit companies have an implicit advantage there, if they completely screw up they stop making money. Whereas Gnu Hurd is still on its road to nowhere thirty four years after it formally started.

     But with money also comes temptation, see the Raspberry Pi for example (switched over to prioritizing companies that embed their stuff, is now doing an IPO).

     I can't think of any high volume open hardware projects that either avoided that fate (of course Raspberry Pi actually wasn't very open, but that's in part on Broadcom etc. and the latter's making too many of a certain chip) or got anywhere, see for example lowRISC which was founded to make a very interesting RISC-V chip, as in they talked about what it would cost to make N-thousand working ones, and ended up being a consulting company.

     See also how much it costs up front to make good injection molded plastic parts for packaging, that's generally needed for high volume parts for consumers. Every time you see something that's metal, CNC machined, and/or 3D printed you know it's going to be extra expensive.

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 30-May-2024 10:11:05 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @idiot @Zergling_man @ThatWouldBeTelling @mangeurdenuage @sun Well next step would be somewhat trusted foundries (fablabs but good? :D) in the style of distros because let's face it, not everyone wants to have that in their garage, nor can take the time to build those things.
     
     And I don't think the hardware part should be anywhere near gratis, heck even back when distros needed floppies/CD/DVDs to be shared around you'd pay for those (which is one of the many reasons why libre software must also waive commercial rights).
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     @romin @idiot @ThatWouldBeTelling @Zergling_man @lanodan @sun Nothing is certain, the current accumulation of hardware backdoors, bugs and restriction over time is starting to piss of more and more people, the same way more and more people are getting angry at microsoft.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 30-May-2024 10:16:50 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @romin @Zergling_man @ThatWouldBeTelling @idiot @mangeurdenuage @sun Yeah, it's more the kind of stuff where governments cares (electric grid, military, aerospace, …).
     
     But I wouldn't be surprised to end up seeing things like FCC / CE / … take a lot more care in certifying electronics in like a decade, specially ones where internet and radio is involved (which is like 99% of computers).
     
     Quite like how at first cars were something you could just build in your garage while now you need multiple certifications to do this.
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     ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 30-May-2024 10:16:51 JST ロミンちゃん

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     @mangeurdenuage @ThatWouldBeTelling @Zergling_man @idiot @lanodan @sun 99% of people using computers (ph*nes) don't give a shit
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     @idiot @Zergling_man @lanodan @mangeurdenuage @sun Cross our fingers on the FTC non to non-competes, but its prospects aren't generically good since its head is an activist who doesn't care if what she orders is legal, and is being regularly slapped down by the courts.

     Would also severely screw over California for what that's worth....

     Speaking as someone who's worked for a few hardware companies back in the days, and did some fiddling around with electronics before college (OK, got some mad soldering skills out of that) and my family was also in the business, I think much of the rest of what you say is wrong including on salaries, but I don't have real knowledge of the latter today.

     So I see "sharing schematics, drawings, and BOMs, and assembling the computer/printer/whatever together your own bad self...."

     And I also see "and then a miracle occurs" where a bunch of surface mount parts get placed on a (multilayer??!?!!!???) PCB and soldered into place.

     See also connectors, cables, and all the fun that comes with them and how they too can fail. I see people tearing their hair out trying to debug all the things which can go wrong.

     You're also going to either go crazy trying to buy the parts in tiny or normal quantities which will be insanely expensive, or now you're back to a company buying them in normalish quantities and parceling them out into kits, along with PCBs that I hope they test.

     And not entirely cheaply because they'll have to do something about customer support for those debugging issues, which can also include replacing damaged stuff.

     Software is massively more tractable.

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     @ThatWouldBeTelling @idiot @Zergling_man @lanodan @sun
     >You're also going to either go crazy trying to buy the parts in tiny or normal quantities which will be insanely expensive
     The market is really fucked because of that already if you at https://yewtu.be/search?q=channel%3AUCl2mFZoRqjw_ELax4Yisf6w+parts
     He already explains that brands like apple even go as far as forbidding manufacturers from selling smd components aside them, idk how that's legal in the US, but it shouldn't be allowed. But still people are able to find some because black market and other various ways because the demand is high.
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     mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 30-May-2024 10:19:14 JST mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:

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     @romin @ThatWouldBeTelling @Zergling_man @idiot @lanodan @sun I agree, that's why like any car they shouldn't be able to get any without the proper training.
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     @romin @idiot @Zergling_man @lanodan @mangeurdenuage @sun Yeah, RISC-V is totally a Worse is Better, New Jersey macroarchitecture, they even go so far as to say "well, C and Java don't care about this..." in the official architecture document not long after they launched.

     But you're already going to have to compromise a lot to have open hardware, so adding instructions to check for integer overflow etc. probably isn't a huge thing if you can get a fast enough part to begin with.

     As to your two previous comments, we're talking about the 1% who for example already run a Linux/BSD desktop. And we have to start somewhere, there's always going to be a supply chain, software or hardware.

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     @mangeurdenuage @ThatWouldBeTelling @Zergling_man @lanodan @romin @sun At this point, I feel like the only way I'd be able to get away with it is a "snake a bunch of optical cables across your house and stick the actual computer hardware in the basement" solution like Linus did with his house. Except I'm not an exceptionally wealthy Youtuber with my own mansion.
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     @idiot @ThatWouldBeTelling @Zergling_man @lanodan @romin @sun I'd pay for these if I had the money.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 30-May-2024 10:23:46 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @idiot @Zergling_man @ThatWouldBeTelling @mangeurdenuage @romin @sun Well TechTips guy is a gamer™ so he's stuck outside of thin clients.
     
     Meanwhile your average Unix user could use a more or less fanless computer as thin client and then server in another room.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 30-May-2024 10:24:46 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @idiot @ThatWouldBeTelling @Zergling_man @mangeurdenuage @romin @sun In fact I almost do this already with my Thinkpad T495, would just need to consider my desktop a server.
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     Dayalicia Tohka Mitsuki (daya@princess.wedding)'s status on Thursday, 30-May-2024 11:56:21 JST Dayalicia Tohka Mitsuki

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     @sun @raccoon but Gentoo is so kawaii :02sad:
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     @idiot @ThatWouldBeTelling @Zergling_man @lanodan @sun
     >you're still asking a professional engineer that gets at least six digits to work in their spare time for free.
     Since when they don't get paid for their work ?
     The only thing hardware freedom does is to enable other people to also be able to work (and own) on the said hardware with no restriction. Aka a true free market.
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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 01:27:48 JST 

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     @PurpCat @lanodan @Zergling_man @sun My LaserJet 1020 with a replacement cartridge for the price of small pizza still just works.
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     @mint @PurpCat @lanodan @Zergling_man @sun the only good quality inkjets have is price, laser all the way
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     @romin @lanodan @ThatWouldBeTelling @idiot @mangeurdenuage @sun Make computers arcane again
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     @mint @PurpCat @lanodan @Zergling_man @sun I’m still running a cheap Brother laser printer for the last 15 years
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