I am not interested in this line of thinking. Thanks.
The Bible is quite clear the new covenant with Jesus is a rejection of the previous old Jewish covenant, and the Jews themselves hate Jesus Christ and Christians more than they hate anything else.
When the "Christianity was always Jewish subversion" crowd comes up with something that pisses off Jews more than Jesus Christ, they might have something. They won't. The entire exercise is retarded academic nonsense putting the last 100 years of Jewish subversion of Christianity on a higher pedestal than Christianity being the Jews' mortal enemy for two millennia. These pagan LARPers or whatever they are rejecting Christ is as nonsensical as Boomers rejecting Hitler.
If the Jews don't like something, signal boost it. Simple as. Jews don't give a shit about paganism because it's not a threat to them. They hate Christ because He is. End of story.
@DailyStormerDigest@toxoplasmosis I feel it's worth remembering that the Jews hated the new Christ followers so much and blamed the Christians for their woes that as Christianity spread, they basically retreated into their holes and refused to share anything about their religion for hundreds of years or write anything down
During this time they threw out their Torah (taken over by Christians because it showed the coming of Jesus) and their Second Temple Era literature (also showed the coming of Jesus) and came up with the Talmud (calls Jesus a sorcerer that is currently being boiled alive in excrement in Hell)
Christianity from the very beginning and onwards wrote against following these Jewish sects, like Justin Martyr's Dialogue with Trypho and John Chrysostom's homilies Against Jews, warning that they were the killers of Christ -- a title the Jews proudly took on as they continued railing against Christ and Christians, setting themselves up to be the subversive anti-Christian weirdos we all deal with to this day
@Appalachian_Crusader@DailyStormerDigest Of course they hated the Christians. The pagans and Jews both couldn't stand you guys. In fact nobody could or can. You guys were literally BLM of the 300 ADs. Burning down buildings, tearing down statues, shouting in the streets. It's all there. This time it's about niggers though. Your next evolution is the far left, and you will be left behind.
@Azzmador@toxoplasmosis@DailyStormerDigest Thank you for the link; I‘ve been impressed with this guy before, and it’s good to get a more precise sense where you’re coming from.
I spent a good three years playing bass at an atypical (ie Congregation-led, kind of) Baptist Church, about half of which was spent in association with the IFCA. At no point did we ever consider ourselves “Protestant”, and indeed rejected the label; so I do get it.
That being said, from my perspective, so-called “Roman Catholicism” (in reality, Papism) is really the first Protestantism. While they may be Roman, they’re not *really* Catholic, and are *outside* the Church.
But if everyone else accepted my categories, they’d be agreeing with me.
@toxoplasmosis@DailyStormerDigest Well at first I was basically in agreement with @Azzmador - but from my perspective evangelical Protestant is clearly “a thing”, because I obviously need *some* way to refer to the broad group without having to list dozens of different ones - and having come through that background, I know it’s widely understood (even if its accuracy is disputed).
I don’t argue with the fact you/they are not really “protesting” anything, and have simply arrived at a version of Christianity you/they agree with. And the impulse to define oneself *independently* of Rome, while not referring to Rome, is reasonable enough.
That being said, I’m still not sure what @toxoplasmosis is asking. Seems to me that, if the jews get their way, we’re *all* Noahides whether we want it or not, and sincere Christians will be liable for the “capital crime” of “idolatry” in their (false) estimation.
I figure you probably don’t care to see much difference between a Traditional Orthodox Christian, and a modern evangelical Protestant, as you’ve apparently accepted the “dead kike on a stick” narrative.
Perhaps I’m mistaken; but if you’re sold on *that* then there’s not much point in discussion.
Protestants would return to the Catholic fold if the church would institute reforms that their founders, i.e. John Wesley w/the Methodists, or Martin Luther with the Lutherans, demanded reforms were made by the church.
Evangelicals (most of whom are in a fallen state now bc they do not practice their own original faith) and esp hardcore fundamentalists like myself, aren't protesting anything. There's nothing the Ortho or Catholic churches could do to convince us to become part of them, because it is a false religion, with a works-based salvation and pagan worship of saints.
Orthos and Catholics want to lump all non-ortho/catholic Christians under that term, but it is not accurate.
@KingOfWhiteAmerica@Azzmador@DailyStormerDigest Schofield was pure Christianity diluted of all the extra crap. At the end of the day, you're an occupied person believing in Judaic perspectives. You are a Noahide, that's why your Jew hate doesn't make any sense other than in the context of envy.
@toxoplasmosis@Azzmador@DailyStormerDigest So what you’re saying is no-one got it right until the Scofield ? All that whole “Christendom”, “Eastern Roman Empire”, dozens of Christian kingdoms, the Russian Empire etc … they were all deviations from this “hardline approach to the Bible” ?
@toxoplasmosis@Azzmador@DailyStormerDigest@KingOfWhiteAmerica >God's chosen narrative and other Dispensationalism 💩 You people really are wasting your time. If anything, you're just going to drive more people towards traditionalist forms of Christianity. Hope your shekels are worth it though, jew.
@KingOfWhiteAmerica@Azzmador@DailyStormerDigest You already dishonor your ancestors when other ancestors of yours rejected their historical religion for a foreign tale spun in the levant. You can believe that goyim are the real Jews and whatever nonsense plot twist but at the end of the day your more recent ancestors either converted due to slave morality (this is my likely guess) or by the sword. Because the truth requires people believing in it by force, of course.
Imagine believing in a religion that said a foreign people were the chosen people. That's the biggest insult one could give to their bloodline tbh.
@toxoplasmosis@Appalachian_Crusader@DailyStormerDigest Leftists hate Christianity because it elevates the Good, the Beautiful, and the Truth. Arguing the edge case of modernist trash, as if it's representative of 2,000 years of history documenting the Christian battle against jewish lies.
@branman65@Azzmador@toxoplasmosis@DailyStormerDigest I agree the various websites that publish it could use some polish; but no doubt the actual Anathema against Ecumenism pronouced by ROCOR 1983 under St. Philaret of New York is entirely Orthodox. If it weren’t, none of the historical context in which Ecumenical Councils took place would make any sense.
@branman65@Azzmador@toxoplasmosis@DailyStormerDigest Yes, exactly ! We’re “Tikhonites” - aka the Catacomb Church. We bore the brunt of ”Patriarch” Sergius’s betrayal of Holy Orthodoxy - and to this day face gross injustices at the hands of the “Moscow Patriarchate” Russian State Church (though fortunately they haven’t resumed their policy of torture and slaughter, yet). We’re an Ukaz #362 Church, and are still in the process of picking up all the pieces.
@branman65@Azzmador@toxoplasmosis@DailyStormerDigest Oh man, you’re preaching to the choir. I’m in one of those Communions that gets labelled “schismatic” by the mainstream - for the horrible “crime” of actually remaining Orthodox.
The situation is quite awful, by all external assessments. If not for the Word of God, despair would be a likely outcome.
@branman65@Azzmador@toxoplasmosis@DailyStormerDigest Well yeah, it’s *really* the actual Catholic Faith. The Latin variety *clearly* added the Filioque, which *obviously* wasn’t “believed by all since the beginning”. Furthermore, they’ve made numerous innovations since then - while Orthodoxy is demonstrably identical to what it’s always been.
@branman65@Azzmador@toxoplasmosis@DailyStormerDigest Papism is a huge problem - even amongst the World Orthodox. Of course they don’t typically *think* of it that way, but it’s what it is; substituting a particular Bishop / Patriarch for the one in Rome. Usually, either the EP or the MP.
The jews have a pincer on the entire spectrum, christianity on the right which is why zionism exists, and radical marxist secular ideologies on the left promoting lgbt etc
>For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God’s truth, so that the promises made to the patriarchs might be confirmed
If you go back a few chapters to Romans 11:28, which refers to how Gentiles should view jews, there is further context:
>As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs
Jesus was a servant of the jews in that he fulfilled the promises of the Old Testament prophets, and he rewarded the VERY FEW jews who remained faithful. It is explicitly mentioned that the jewish people as a collective called for Christ's crucifixion, with only a handful of his disciples being opposed to it.
Matthew 22-25:
>Pilate asked them, “What should I do then with Jesus, who is called Christ?”
>They all answered, “Crucify him!”
>Then he said, “Why? What has he done wrong?”
>But they kept shouting all the more, “Crucify him!”
>When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that a riot was starting instead, he took some water, washed his hands in front of the crowd, and said, “I am innocent of this man’s blood. See to it yourselves!”
>All the people answered, “His blood be on us and on our children!”
@toxoplasmosis@Appalachian_Crusader@DailyStormerDigest 1) He fulfilled his purpose and his life is complete. He accepted his death and didn’t run away from it. That deserves respect. Learn what classical virtue is instead of being an animal.
2) Ah yes, the “let me tell you about your religion” mentality. You American by any chance?
3) “Christian democracy” is when I know you are a clueless clown who spouts nonsense.
@toxoplasmosis@Appalachian_Crusader@DailyStormerDigest 1) Jesus is basically God, so to be like Jesus is to be like God. This is deification and there is literally nothing wrong with it. If you see a good person acting a certain way, logically you want to be like that person.
2) If what you said is true, the Church Fathers would’ve thought like this. The majority of Christians didn’t. Maybe be less of a prideful faggot and realise that you have the wrong idea.
3) So you don’t have a solution. Got it. You just destroy and destroy until there is nothing left. Just like the average leftist does. So weird (lolno)!
@plotinus_enjoyer@Appalachian_Crusader@DailyStormerDigest Your god couldn't even same himself! He got nailed to the cross like a stray dog found by some niggers in Somalia. LOL! Because he needed to open the gates of heaven because he couldn't... do it any other way, I suppose. It's all riveting stuff.
I do have the right idea of Christianity. 2000 years of dropping the ball, and in these times you are dragging on a dying civilization more embarassing than the worst of Ancient Rome.
No one man is going to have the solution. Because civilization was handed off to the slaves and Christian democracy was decided upon. The disease needs to take its course. This is something that must take thousands of years, but I suspect whites will breed with foreigners and become a newer, lesser race.
@toxoplasmosis@Appalachian_Crusader@DailyStormerDigest 1) What that means is to be in control of yourself and not to be an emotional faggot who finds enemies because they offended you personally. The latter is the mark of a woman.
2) The Church Fathers don’t say that everyone is the same. Especially Augustine. The point is that people are distinct but are nevertheless one faith.
3) You have still not outlined your solution. I get the impression that it’s going to be some sort of quasi-Nietzschean individualism though.
@plotinus_enjoyer@Appalachian_Crusader@DailyStormerDigest 1) The whole religion is effeminate. Look at the language I am using, it is straight from the bible. Men do not talk this way. Christianity doesn't even want you in control of yourself, it wants Jesus in control of you. Let him in your heart. Know him by his fruits (chuckles). Let him inside you (rofl). Be like Jesus. The only interesting thing Jesus did in the bible was whipping the money-lenders, otherwise getting nailed to the cross was pretty good too and needed a laugh-track.
2) I'm going what the bible says. You can pick and choose whatever from whatever random "authority" posing as someone with a clue.
3) It's not about my solution. It's about why Jesus Must Go. And if he comes back, we'll just have to nail him to the cross a second time and hope he gets the message.
@toxoplasmosis@Flatulenator this is a perspective informed by your aforementioned attempt to wear edgelord goth satanist shit to church at age 16 (i.e. yesterday), on the theory that "FUCK YOU DAD" and "I bet you've never seen somebody like ME before" that got you thrown the fuck out because lmao of course it did, decent people don't have to put up with your gynocentric attention-seeking horseshit
it's very simple: most Christians are not going to forcibly convert you, but neither are we going to allow you to insult us without consequence, or shit in our culture (and yes it is our culture, from which you are an apostate that we mercifully allow to exist until you come to your fucking senses or become so deranged that you need to be restrained)
if you look at Islam (which is the natural next step in your personal development arc, when you decide to swoon over how UNFATHOMABLY BASED sand-niggers are but can't bring yourself to the monotheism of your actual forefathers), or any other "serious" religion/social structure, you will discover precisely the same intolerance - you can believe whatever you want, as long as you do it quietly, but you are going to keep it to yourself and you are not going to shit all over decent people's lives with your edgelord LARPing, or you will taste a whip (or, in extreme instances, a sword)
I am not interested in any infighting, but I disagree on the Khazar theory and I think that it's false. I do not yet understand why there are agitators that cause infighting between the religious and non-religious. https://davidduke.com/rethinking-khazar-theory/
@Flatulenator@VaxxSabbath Christians will never work with non-Christians. They will always demand we convert to their desert religion. It's that simple.
where does it say they are human? 200 years ago every White person thought niggers were animals without having to think about it. They were all more based than you are.