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   Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jul-2023 09:04:14 JST Sexy Moon
   number ONE mastodon leaver complaint: getting hectored about petty shit
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     Wolffkran (wolffkran@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jul-2023 09:06:51 JST Wolffkran

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jul-2023 09:07:34 JST Sexy Moon

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     article:
     
     https://erinkissane.com/mastodon-is-easy-and-fun-except-when-it-isnt
     
     don't be mean.
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     eris (eris@akko.disqordia.space)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jul-2023 09:09:31 JST eris

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     @Moon valid lol
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jul-2023 09:13:41 JST Sexy Moon

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     @Matchacatta I get it to some extent but it's just the bar is set soooo low. cwing food is just way too far.
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     Matcha 🍵 (matchacatta@bark.lgbt)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jul-2023 09:13:46 JST Matcha 🍵

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     @Moon that's frustrating. They definitely don't make it easy

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     @McMongoose @Moon >Mastodon hates you having fun
     
     there was an entire section of the article devoted to that point.
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     Mong (mcmongoose@bae.st)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jul-2023 09:23:27 JST Mong

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     A lot of people on the "dark fedi" side stay because even though it isn't as fun, fedi stills offers them something to say. Unlike mastodon which offers you nothing at all to spend your time, not even talk and top of that it attacks you over the most petty and silly things.
     
     Mastodon hates you having fun
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jul-2023 09:24:37 JST Sexy Moon

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     Number 2 amounts to poor discoverability/no search.
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     @Moon Number 2 = poo discovery. :blobfoxmlem:
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     @tomey @McMongoose @Moon A lot of these people are really going to have to make a decision at this point: Accept free speech and block/mute people yourself like an adult, or be forced to eat your vegetable in the SJW Internet or be stuck on big tech forever
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     @coolboymew @McMongoose @Moon or delete social media and exchange type-written letters with your friends via the postal service.
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     mothra (ten@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jul-2023 09:32:06 JST mothra

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     @Moon read the article i too would go mad if i had to cw everything
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     Nietzschean Ekko Enjoyer (r000t@ligma.pro)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jul-2023 09:42:38 JST Nietzschean Ekko Enjoyer

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     @Moon I don't think this side of the network is who is going to be mean to this person

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     I got blocked by some popular art retard on mastodon because I asked him about his “eye contact” content warnings. It’s almost like fags and trannies are deranged or something.
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     ™️¥ (tomey@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jul-2023 09:52:01 JST ™️¥

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     @bot @McMongoose @Moon @coolboymew cw: eye contact
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     ☻ (mrsaturday@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jul-2023 10:41:07 JST ☻

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     @Moon What sucks is the kinds of people that would tell the scolds and shut-ins to eat shit stayed on Twitter
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     kolya (kolya@social.cologne)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jul-2023 11:02:02 JST kolya

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     @Moon https://mas.to/@kissane/110793942888550843

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     @kolya thank you, but I did link it further down I think in a reply.
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     @coolboymew @tomey @McMongoose @Moon what they're really looking for is a place where
     
     1) I can hector everyone else about my pet peeves
     2) No one can hector me about their pet peeves
     
     They want inequality with themselves on top. This isn't a valid rule-set for rules that are equally applied to everyone. So a rule-set isn't what they're looking for, at least not a fair one.
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     @coolboymew @tomey @McMongoose @Moon I'd like to think there's room for an niu.moe-type middle ground, but with how militant Mastodongers are I don't know if that's the case anymore. Either way, the two main onboarding sites, MastoSoc and Poast, being so politically charged and divisive sets fedi back hard.
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     @mrsaturday @McMongoose @Moon @tomey the big issue is that SPC is already a middle ground instance. We're friendly with poast and with the trans instances that got rejected from the wider fediverse
     
     It's legitimately impossible to be a middle ground instance and not getting shit
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     @freemo @coolboymew @McMongoose @tomey I am not responsible for idiots being against free speech, a historically illiterate position.
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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 04:34:03 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     Seems most of the fediverse have dug their feet in on that already. Sadly the freespeech instances have done everything in their power to convince people not to adopt that side of the fence.

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     @freemo @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey the people that came here in the last few years came here already against it. They defederated niue.cat and blob.cat. unless you completely capitulate to them they will defederate you.
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     @Moon

     Ideas like fault is pointless. Its not about who is to blame and who is to not.

     The fact of the matter is the freespeech section of the fediverse has went out of their way to attack and abuse people who federate with them to the point that it is very hard to take a freespeech stance and still be appealing to most people.

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     @freemo @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey stop acting like these people are normal people. why do you exert so much effort to be nice to people that will never, ever be nice to you.
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     @freemo @Moon @McMongoose @tomey "Please save us daddy big tech, we're 30 years old babies who can't think for ourselves and will absolutely take a position that will forsake us all to hell because bad words or something"
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     @freemo @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey I feel like you are blaming us for them hating you when they came here already hating people like you before they ever even met us.
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     @Moon

     I run QOTO, an instance that strongly leans towards open federation, but locally doesnt allow free speech (our users will be banned for certain forms of speech, though we are rather forgiving in this regard).

     While we do sometimes have valuable interactions from free speech instances the issue is the overwhelming majority of interaction is from them dog piling and trolling with overtly racist and aggressive attacks. It is often so bad you cant even use the service without blocking most free speech instances...

     Blame who you want but even an instance like QOTO that wants to remain open is struggling to do so because it just makes the service unusable.

     @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey

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     @freemo @McMongoose @Moon @tomey Muting a domain takes 3 seconds dude
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     @coolboymew

     Its not about that... users can do the blocking themselves (and for now thats how we do it)... but it becomes a full time job for most of our users blocking instances on their own that, without doing so, means the system is barely usable.

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     @freemo @Moon @McMongoose @tomey
     
     This bad take reminds me of shitlibs and the Amazon driver story that heard the n-word from an automated doorbell speaker when it wasn't there and the dude got banned
     
     Amazon will do everything to avoid an n-word story but they'll treat their employees like fucking shit and barely pay them. A complete consolation prize. That's where you're at, at the consolation prize
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     @freemo @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey do you mean blocking servers or do you mean restrictive rules on their own servers? I am sorry I came into this conversation late.
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     @Moon

     Like i said before I am not "blamming" anyone.. Fault is a rather pointless concept... I am mearly stating that free speech is an idea I support but supporting is starting to become technically difficult causing people to adopt a non-free speech approach as its the only option that allows the fediverse to be usable for most people.

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     @freemo @McMongoose @Moon @tomey
     
     >Yes, and where there are 20 new domains a day that you need to mute
     
     That is patently false. This is absolutely not happening. You're making up a story wholesale to justify being a bitch who blocks everything
     
     There is no weird harassment campaign where people continually make up new domain and instance to just harass and be mean to people. I have never seen this happens
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     @coolboymew

     Yes, and where there are 20 new domains a day that you need to mute and people are hoping instances and bringing up small one-user domains those 3 seconds become a big load.. especially when most of us wont block a domain the moment a single person throws a fit. Its usually only after several incidents someone decides to block. So thats a lot of noise per-domain someone must endure before they silence that one domain, one domain among a great many needing blocking for some.

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     @freemo @McMongoose @Moon @tomey post proof
     
     I want to see within the next 7 days a receipt of all the domains you've blocked and the reason you are blocking them, coming from you and not from a 3rd party source
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     @coolboymew

     It probably doesnt happen to you because you are one of the trolls, or at least, close enough to them (you arent as bad as most which is why i never blocked you)... But generally the people who dont participate in the trolling, particularly as a server, are the ones targeted.

     I expiernce this a few times a week personally and as an admin have had quite a few of my users complain about the same problem.

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     @freemo @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey I don't consider it a free speech thing to block other servers, you have a culture and you want to keep your culture intact on your server. people blocking wide swaths of the fediverse based on bad reasons is a different problem. I have mixed feelings about the term free speech server. we don't allow some things here. can any server really be free speech? I am trying to make us not be a vector for harassment but the line is very fuzzy.
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     @Moon

     I am talking about blocking other servers, not the rules internal to your own instance.

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     @freemo @McMongoose @Moon @tomey
     
     So, no proof then, the usual "it's not my job to teach you bigot" and etc etc.
     
     And how much anyone is willing to bet that the dogpilling comes from horribly bad political take that you personally allow and the user is then screaming "sealioning"?
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     You can figure that for yourself by going through my feed if you really care to. That isnt an exercise I need to invest time in since I dont see much value coming from that exercise.

     If I actually cared about proving my point that would be a good way to do it. I just dont have the energy to care enough to go through all that.

     If you'd like I can start tagging you when dogpiles kick in so you can see them though if you really care.

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     @freemo @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey i appreciate that you have treated us fairly and if you have problems you can DM me. But I am expressing that I think you are making a mistake by accepting the frame of, basically, highly-online politically aggressive people.
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     @Moon

     SureI do agree there are levels to this and blocking can be quite excessive.

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     @freemo @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey ok to make my position clear, if you defederate another server because it's incompatible with yours, that is sensible. if you defederate another server because you think it will satisfy a third server that wants to defederate from you, you are probably throwing the first server under the bus because it is almost always a strongarm tactic.
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     @Moon

     I mean, there is a reason you guys are still federated with... but as I said it is getting closer and closer to being impossible to maintain a nearly-open federation policy from a purely usability standpoint... we arent there yet though.

     That said i am working on technological solutions.

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     @freemo @Moon @McMongoose @tomey yet, you recommend the fediblock blocklist in your pinned statuses
     
     Curious
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     @Moon

     On that point I wholly agree. We have never caved to third party pressure in that regard.

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     @freemo @coolboymew @McMongoose @tomey individuals subscribing to blocklists is more or less okay, you don't see it from the fediblock people because it's as much about punishment as about safety.
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     @coolboymew

     Yes I do, because while I dont think servers should force a block list on a user I do think the user should have the option to block and an easy path to do so if thats what they want. If there is a user that wants low-moderated instances blocked they should have that choice and easy access to a block list to accomplish it.

     I myself dont use the block list, but I do understand its need for some users.

     It is also an attempt to address the usability issue I mentioned earlier while not needing to block at the instance level... a possible middle ground solution.

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     @Moon @freemo @McMongoose @tomey the issue is such blocking is that we've seen it from day one, bad actors adding to it and everyone else believing them
     
     I've seen it on twitter, etc
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     @freemo @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey ultimately blocking doesn't make you any safer from harassment so neither type of blocklist actually works but they probably think that the social sanction of server defederation will cause bad actors to leave. I think this has been proven untrue.
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     @freemo @McMongoose @Moon @tomey then why recommend it at all?
     
     You're saying stuff but then the actions doesn't match
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     Thats a huge problem in fediverse blocklists too... I get it there are a lot of blocklists that are fairly abusive in how aggressive they are.

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     @freemo @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey I mean like, they can still read your public posts and do bad things like doxing. I agree with some of the mastodon people that blocking doesn't completely solve abuse.
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     I have found blocking unmoderated instances do a pretty good job at significantly reducing the amount of harassment one experiences.

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     What I love about the Fedi is that there's basically a market for moderation policies. Admins can make whatever policies they prefer and users will move to whatever instances work the best.
     
     Also, I think it can be shown mathematically that everything will eventually converge on almost completely free speech, so maintaining an authoritarian echo-chamber is basically an exercise in futility.
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     Also, there are no "influencers", which is a standard furnishing of echo-chambers.
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     @cjd @McMongoose @freemo @coolboymew @tomey for all the problems people that want to know what's going on come to these places because information has to compete here for prominence while on their servers it can just be suffocated by one admin.
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     @FourOh-LLC @McMongoose @cjd @freemo @Moon @tomey I do like my videos and such, but the last 7-8 years definitively have taught that ecelebs are most definitively cancer. I believe a bunch of them have been caught getting money for astroturfing too
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     @josemanuel @freemo @coolboymew @McMongoose @tomey even they still want rules but they don't want to be ruled by just actual nuts.
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     @freemo In any case, I think your general point (that free speech instances are frowned upon due to certain people being edgy) was true in the past, but not so much today. I believe those who came in the Twitter migrations wanted a place where they could feel relaxed and be themselves, and instead got a place full of ultrasensitive vigilantes.

     I think the tables have turned and free speech has become popular again (a necessity, even), because a lot of people feel constrained by all those “unwritten rules” mentioned in the article @Moon linked to.

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     @josemanuel

     Yup, many of our users would agree with you, partly because our server policies would attract people who feel the way you do. That said many have had the opposite opinion as you.. its a mixed bag. I think it largely depends on your opinions and ideology, yours are probably less of a target than others.

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     @freemo I have to disagree with you there. It takes very little time and effort to curate your own TL. I interact a lot with free speech instances and I don't get all that many racist or sexist posts. Certainly not enough to make curating my TL a full-time job. On most occasions I don't even care to block or mute because I know I won't be seeing those accounts again.

     If you're referring to people like the sandwich guy, he was a very special case, fortunately.

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     • autism :verified:
     My use of the word "almost" was not an accident.
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     @cjd @McMongoose @freemo @Moon @coolboymew @tomey having sex with kids is not covered under free speech and everyone is okay with it being excluded from that too.
     watch who is afraid of that.
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     @josemanuel @freemo @Moon @McMongoose @tomey Very good post
     
     There's a big issue of an endless cycle of big tech abuse because people don't jump in because of the "bad free speech" which then would make that the tables never actually turns, which why I'm rather critical on the thing
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     One reason that everything seems to be politicized lately is because the influencers and their political correctness.
     
     Some are more tolerable than others, but from the small to the large all the way to Joe Rogan and the Babylon Bee they are repulsive to me, and maybe to a lot of others too.
     
     A few are downright pathological, like Whoopie. Goodness gracious she is a moron!
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     @josemanuel @freemo @Moon @coolboymew @McMongoose @tomey When people join "free speech" websites in 2023, there's a very darn good reason they would IMO.
     
     The be yourself social media culture (or at least the impression of it as Tumblr was giving off despite being a facade) has given way to neopuritanism, which is being fought with other forms of it. A website protesting bad internet laws was saying that they should be blocked for the very same thing the other side wanted to pass those bills for. Not any other reason, but literally that.
     
     The fedi thrives in spite of this blocklisting, not because of it, just because Twitter is so much worse unless you're a firstname lastname boring NPC who is trying to get those like/retweet numbuhs up.
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     @coolboymew @McMongoose @freemo @josemanuel @Moon @tomey It's not even just because of that, it's also shit like "all my friends use this" or "I don't want to make an account on this site" or "I don't want to download this app". Even if they have other reasons (see Mumble simply not supporting as many features as Skype did), they cannot articulate it.
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     @PurpleCat @McMongoose @freemo @josemanuel @Moon @tomey that's an whole other issue and one I've had issue for ages. Before Discord, it was hell to get people to stay on an IRC channel, christ
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     Safety?
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     @josemanuel @McMongoose @Moon @coolboymew @freemo @tomey It's also no longer just over speech or political speech.
     
     It's now over shit like what art is allowed to be posted online. This can be seen online, with shit like the Zamii070 situation (artist harassed for drawing characters wrong) giving way to the endless DNI posting, faux morals/puritanism over NSFW art, and arguments that boil down to a mix of "stop drawing what I don't like" and "drawings have rights".
     
     This, this is why Japanese fedi instances are booming, and why some instances like varis are so militant about going after those who they see as bullying another JP artist into wiping his gallery and going dark, which keeps happening on Twitter. No seriously, it seems like Twitter has unreal amounts of drama in the art sphere.
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     @coolboymew @McMongoose @freemo @josemanuel @Moon @tomey It wasn't if you had a chatbox on your website. That was the big thing before DIscord servers, you'd get an endless stream of summer posters.
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     @PurpleCat @McMongoose @freemo @josemanuel @Moon @tomey website chatbox were sooooo comfy
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     @coolboymew @McMongoose @freemo @josemanuel @Moon @tomey So in the good old days of Java and later Mibbit (which got replaced by some other web chat thing due to Mibbit being a literal proxy and klined from 109 IRC networks at least), every single website tied their chatbox to an IRC chat.
     
     I used to be a notorious shitposter in some IRC circles years ago haha.
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     @PurpleCat @McMongoose @freemo @josemanuel @Moon @tomey yeah, back in the days I tried have easy webchat links, easy guides to connect, etc. but man, maaaaaan, getting people to stay was hell
     
     What we need is a shift from from big tech and have people to be encouraged to explore the web again. Have a big web again with cool personal websites again, etc
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     @coolboymew @McMongoose @freemo @Moon @tomey Like it or not, the Nigger word has become the ultimate symbol of online free speech, and any community that bans it is doomed to become a shithole.
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     @coolboymew @McMongoose @freemo @Moon @tomey I remember this crybaby freaking out about me replying to him from my DRC account after he had already blocked my Baest account a while ago ("Muh ban evasion!"). He ran crying to @admin about my actions and demanded that I be punished, and admin of course told him to eat a dick. Then DRC & friends dogpiled the shit out of him.
     
     If he'd just taken 2 seconds to block my DRC instead of being a Drama queen, he could saved himself hours of headache - THAT'S why these people can't deal with free speech and free speech instances.
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     @mischievoustomato @McMongoose @freemo @Moon @tomey they're usually from a handful of domains at best tho'
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     @coolboymew @McMongoose @freemo @Moon @tomey considering how numerous the dogpilers can get you can see why it's annoying and admins much rather just ban them wholly
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     @coolboymew @McMongoose @freemo @Moon @tomey that is true. drc/varis/poast more or less
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     @freemo
     https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Blamming

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     @freemo @Moon @McMongoose @coolboymew just mute a few slur keywords and problem solved.
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     @freemo @coolboymew @Moon @tomey
     If you experienced inconveniences is because you went out of your way to become hated, some are hated because of the power they wield like graf or moon, but you're hated because you're a dumb idiot
     
     Nobody here told you to defend rapists from due punishment or talk about the time you fisted a woman without consent
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     @Moon @freemo @coolboymew @tomey
     This nigga literally glows in the dark, he worked for FEMA or the NSA I'm not sure, but fuck anything he has to say. He hasn't had a good take since day 0
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