Notices by adb (adbenitez@mastodon.social)

@feld (notice that the server sees that "anonymous user with random id" sends a message to another anonymous user, unlike on Signal where sealed sender is more relevant since user is identified by phone number, and they could still map the IP to the phone number in their central server and know who you are)

@delta @farshidhakimy

@reallylazybear I hate to be the bringer of bad news, but you are bound to get problems, it seems they require you to re-connect with the phone from time to time, it seems it doesn't really support multi-device without a dependency on a main device, for an app that has good multi-device without phone numbers check #ArcaneChat (https://arcanechat.me) and #DeltaChat

for problems with signal multi-device see:
https://framapiaf.org/@jeeynet/114177155835278699

@geopolitics26

> Europe needs independence from the US [...]
> Whatsapp> signal

Signal is from US, and operates in AWS servers...
take a look at #ArcaneChat https://arcanechat.me
and #DeltaChat https://delta.chat

@mojoaxel if you use https://arcanechat.me you get 800MB of inbox which much more than other #chatmail servers provide at the moment, if you are not using multi-device, then enabling auto-deletion to delete messages from server immediately will also help to keep the INBOX empty 😅

@untitaker

@feld another point people miss: unlike on #Signal, #WhatsApp, #Telegram, etc where there is a central server watching all the social graphs of the whole network, in #DeltaChat and other decentralized platforms like #XMPP what a server can see is pretty limited and fragmented, We started talking about activists btw, and having the freedom to choose a server instead a central server potentially collaborating with your enemy is a killer feature

@k3fnb @VeroniqueB99 @SrRochardBunson

@Andromxda

> "It's a much better idea to just use a messenger with sufficient metadata protection"

this is your very own opinion, mine is that it is better not to require phone numbers or SIM cards, often tied to personal ID card or passport in some countries. An app requiring ZERO personal data is better.

@k3fnb just because #DeltaChat uses the email protocol you are making some wrong assumptions that only apply to classic email, sure if you go doing activism using #gmail that is not safe, but to use Delta Chat, you don't need to provide ANY personal data / metadata and hence can't leak metadata, you can create an anonymous account for a protest and throw it away afterwards, if cops get your phone they get random contacts not phone numbers unlike in #Signal etc.

@SrRochardBunson @VeroniqueB99

@feld I went for the cheapest option of my VPS provider, that is 5 euros per month, sadly I was thinking storage would be a problem and paid +2 euros for extra storage and now have a 600GB SSD server where only ~4GB is used for the whole system and data

also I am using only 1GB of 6GB of RAM available and really few CPU, so it could be running in a way cheaper option if it even existed with half the resources or less

@ezmyrelda TIP: when talking about #DeltaChat it is better to use the hashtag than only mentioning the delta chat account, because that way people like me that follow the hashtag can get your post :3

https://arcanechat.me server reached 1500 users!!!

the server is using around 1GB of RAM, CPU is almost unused, and only 1.4GB of storage used for encrypted user volatile data, that is around 1MB per user on average!

the cost of self-hosting a #chatmail server for #ArcaneChat / #DeltaChat is really low! and you don't even need to trust the server operator or even the VPS provider if you are selfhosting since all is #e2ee and safe against #mitm thanks to the green checkmark in chats

@dansup I recommend #DeltaChat as alternative to #WhatsApp, Delta Chat is decentralized, no phone number required etc.

migrating from #WhatsApp to another centralized platform is not a real solution, that's why we are here in the #Fediverse and not in #BlueSky

Migrate from #WhatsApp to #DeltaChat and other decentralized alternatives, break free out of the silos once and for all and stop feeding billionaires/CEO incubators

#ArcaneChat #XMPP #Matrix #SimpleX #Session #decentralization #encryption

@Gargron shave that beard and you will feel 28 again 😎

@rysiek I don't think people should be using #Signal, besides this problem, it is a centralized service which means it is vulnerable to enshitification and it requires phone numbers to register which sucks a hell lot

I use #DeltaChat, decentralized, anonymous, no data required for registration, and it doesn't have this deanonymization attack problem

@abolisyonista it is just a shared profile, there is not intention to add this to official #DeltaChat for now, also the use case is more suited for teams, like sharing a support account so several people can reply to requests, because people share a common inbox, it is not suited for open communities, since anyone can delete messages from the inbox and you can NOT ban trolls, might work for small private community of trusted people that know each other IRL

Attention ArcaneChat users the new release has experimental Communities support, if you want to test the communities feature and join a fully anonymous public community, write to me in private in ArcaneChat, the invitation link to chat with me is in my mastodon profile

#ArcaneChat DeltaLab #DeltaChat

The future of #email after the success of #ChatGPT apps

🪤🐁 MOUSE TRAP

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