@tarkowski for the fediverse in particular I'm semi-convinced (semi- because I don't understand well enough & would love to be wrong) that the technical underpinnings are such a limiting factor that governance at whatever level (other than that which results in speeding up technical improvement, so cheering things like @spritelyinst) is not going to make a big difference toward ends such as more autonomy for people and communities globally.
@tarkowski and I'm definitely not against more participatory gov. Closely held decisionmaking (whether by a would-be benevolent designer, foundation, or [too numerous to really even consider] company) often rankles users and arguably results in worse software/community/other result. Quoting and Mastodon may be an example. Lots of arguable issues stemming from this with eg Mozilla, Wikimedia, GNOME. But novel governance also costly (including risky), so I don't advocate simply for more of it.
I agree not knowing how to migrate between instances, particularly those running different software, is a big problem. Idle thought/wish, maybe @DTinitiative will intervene; probably few fediverse software designers wish to prevent migration, but making it work great is also work not at top of any of their priorities, probably.
@tarkowski I feel really uneasy about analyzing a model based on a label -- unfortunate word choice from when cheeky wording was stupidly deemed internet cool. Replace with "designer" for cooler analysis. Then it should be obvious that "it should be obvious" needs fleshing out! ?
I idly wonder if Mastodon project (or mastodon.social, I thought interesting what Rochko said about default instance in interview) is most important participatory fediverse governance venue. Open question in my mind.
@tarkowski think for a minute, it's *extremely unlikely* Rochko "is thinking about Mastodon as just a piece of open source code that needs to be produced" not realizing "the code is just a tool for a social network, that is shaped with software tools. Allowing quotes of posts is not a decision about code - it’s a decision about how millions will comunicate."
Please, advocate for and better explore participatory governance, but start from higher and factual ground.
Given how uncool so many URIs have proven to be, I'd want any additional instructions to further the "don't change" mission. Hmm, wonder what those would be, interesting challenge!
Is there any reason to think a URI having an inbox or being subscribable would be more likely to not change -- or more likey to change?
I do think a similar doc, perhaps w3.org/Provider/Style/Social would be...cool!
@evan the handful of times I've replied have definitely come from a too literal, too serious reading of a poll. But hopefully absent of any anger. In any case, apologies, thanks for everything you do for the fediverse and the planet, and enjoy your EvanPoll vacation.
@clacke@methoddan have also listened to "Jimmy Carter" many times, never knowing (and being too lazy to look up) what Grammy, Gordy, and Geordie refer to. Maybe because of that I was never 100% certain whether it was a homage, or some kind of obscure satire. In any case, definitely one of the catchiest free culture tunes.
p.s. that track was the very first thing that popped into my head upon seeing a headline about the person's health. All the best to Jimmy, friends, family.
2030 is a long time, but also a short time. Applications widely adopted then are likely to exist in some form now. So I guess I'd expect GoToSocial to get a lot more popular in the coming years.