@lewdthewides I assume you use Arch as your main "home distro" because of the icon in your nick, and Fedora/OpenSuse on servers? or it has nothing to do
@Suiseiseki@cnx@Jain@xarvos@lanodan >iOS is not a BSD OS, although parts of it was copied from BSDs. just asking, isn't this with the consent of the BSD devs? same with Darwin (Mac OS X)? they get in return some funding by Apple?
@djsumdog@BlinkRape I unironically believe they could be shitposting or as they have been doing for years, trying new boundaries to check how the world population reacts. And I think even normies have stopped caring.
@BlinkRape@djsumdog I realized only some weeks ago Q comes from the group of near-omnipotent alien gods from Star Trek who have found humans an important species due to some traits like passion. Am I retarded for taking so long to make the connection or a genius schizo for realizing it?
@basadeskaiser fair enough. Well at the moment I'll let everyone know that thanks to my massive Disgaea grinding in my 20s, I was able to make Etna my vassal. Later we married. Such an underrated beauty she is.
@Suiseiseki although the Microsoft schemes it's more of a subjective thing IMO -for example I agree with you on VScode still being attached to MS (and not only due to Electron), but I believe VSCodium/Code it's a fast and beginner to advanced, friendly, very mature editor, with many plugins extremely useful, developed thanks to being a fork of a mainstream product by MS.
On the X topic, you have told me some things I didn't know, but still I hope you understand why I kept trying in the discussion to divide running a Windows Manager, a X session, from directly running the programs on WSL.
And I forgot, but it's true and very important, it is the WSL 1.0 that is being open sourced, not WSL 2.0 -however I still belive it's a very good step that shows WSL is worth it for MS -even if it may end badly as history teached us, we are in the extend period, and it's really nice for now, I don't know if you tried it, but if you didn't I would invite you to try it. Maybe don't install a default WSL with Ubuntu like I did, although it really has not given me any problem except some NAT preconfiguration that it's neccesary to remove and change for some daemons to communicate properly.
I would have never thought that Bash wasn't POSIX compliant.
@Suiseiseki oh you are a complicated one... you remind me of a French friend I had. I miss him.
>there have been instances in that there weren't any chains attached. Can you name any?
I don't remember important ones atm so I'm just gonna go with DOS 4.0 and VScode which enabled the community to fork it and make VSCodium/Code.
>I'm talking that it comes with the "ability" to open GTK/QT applications to work with as if they were just another Windows program. That is called an X server.
Yes, I know what's an X server, that's why I explicity said GTK/QT applications, if it's opening a X in the WSL background to render such applications, I do not know, sounds likely, and with the source available, it's another thing "the community" will be able to know. But you are not opening any Windows Manager, you can't run startx or lightdm or any XDM, that was my point on running GTK/QT applications as any Windows program.
Finally, yes I'm using Bash because it's what I used since Slackware 10, only tried zsh for some time because customized and weird FreeBSD at work a long time ago. My point was that you can change the shell to any as long it's POSIX compliant (fish, zsh, bash, etc.)
@Suiseiseki >As far as I am aware, microsoft has never released free software - the software is always proprietary in some way. I disagree with this, I do believe it has always been in some way for their benefit, but there have been instances in that there weren't any chains attached.
>>I'm talking exclusively on the CLI which is what I only use. >Are you talking about GNU bash? I'm talking that it comes with the "ability" to open GTK/QT applications to work with as if they were just another Windows program. I have never got into that because I don't need it and I don't like it. Uploading a hideous picture as basic example. That's what I meant with "only using CLI" -only using the POSIX based shell you setup on your WSL.
@Suiseiseki@nixCraft you're right (it is not right), but for me that has been using WSL 2 for some time now, seems that the project it's important enough and will only get better if it is open sourced, because as good as it is already, it reallty needs some job on very custom configs, and specially more clarity on how some things like how the net stack to Windows works. I'm talking exclusively on the CLI which is what I only use. Never used Cursor so I don't need how much important is VScode's Copilot having the source available is.
I have some people to thanks: first of all, brother in arms, my coworkers, and also a group of individuals from cawfee.club, and another from hidamari.apartments; these both are incredible communities. IDK if they want to be named, but they know who they are anyways. Thanks from the bottom of my heart.
Excuse me for using the same image but I feel it conveys my current emotions. Sorry if I'm being cringe but I couldn't care less this time.
Punished developer, xBSD/Linux hero; into politics, literature, Touhou, vidya, pharms, and old time weeb. I currently use MX Linux, and I code solo from house small/medium scale projects :lain: