Ok then, if chomsky isn't on the left because he's a pedophile supporter (agreed) then people who eat other animals aren't on the left either because they perpetuate a globalised violent system of exploitation torture and murder for their own taste preferences in direct contradiction of left principles of justice equality and fairness.
This is the larger point I was trying to make and why I don't consider what I did as hijacking
You start off by saying the left must be united against the right, but then you carve out a specific exception for when we should shun those on the "left". When people "divide the left" they do it for principled reasons not because theyre opposed to any sort of collaboration. In fact it is the whole idea of "leftist unity" that is idealist, the idea that eveyrone on the left shares fundamental values is just naive and kind of patronising. Really the labels left and right aren't very useful at all they are broad tendancies and don't point to any particular ideology or set of foundational beliefs.
If you think that voting harder prevents fascism then you don't understand fascism.
Fascism is about a collaboration between the political class and the capitalist class, which is why the "left" politicians seem incompetent to prevent fascism: bc robust antifascist measures are too left wing for them and when push comes to shove they'd rather fascism than socialism
Socialism or barbarism
Also the state is fundamentally counter revolutionary, the more powerful it gets at preventing fascism the more powerful it gets at maintaining capitalism and colonialism
@leyonhjelm@librewolf@Saorsa @dj@parcero.casa @cf They said nothing about calling me a narcissist they just told me to kill myself for being trans what are you talking about, thats what theyre in the wrong for
@LilaHexe@mntmn Yeah it is I thought it would have gotten a little bit cheaper with the MNT reform next but being open hardware if someone can make it cheaper they probs will. Theres also the reduced lifetime cost from it being modular and repairable but idk I'll have to see I'm saving up years ahead of time but I think I want one of these laptops more than any other
@LilaHexe@mntmn They used to provide option for several cpu modules, one of them I think had no proprietary binary blobs, now they only sell the cpu module that has proprietary firmware, i wonder why they reduced the options
@mischievoustomato@alice "they did it why cant I" is toddler ethics. Basically skill issue why dont you care about creatures that have the morally relevant traits of personhood, why only care about members of your own group, its the same logic as racism "its no one I personally care about so go ahead and kill them"
@mischievoustomato@alice You should care because they have people they care about and people who care about them, and they want to live just like you. If you value your own life then you have to accept that others valuing their life is just as valid, You are not special.
@mischievoustomato@alice Why aren't cows pigs and chickens people, how do you define person, bc to me: sentience, memory, preference, personality, emotions is all you need to be a person
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@mischievoustomato@alice You are using this logic of might makes right to justify your own violence, "violence against non human is ok bc humans are at the top" so clearly you do like it when it benefits YOU. This is the only reason you have given as to why its ok to kill other animals, because YOU want to and you can get away with it. So would you be ok if a cannibal got away with eating you?
@mischievoustomato@alice "things"? they're thinking feeling creatures with personality memory preferences fears and feel pain love grief and comfort, they are someone not something not an inanimate object and never "it" or a "thing"
@mischievoustomato@alice Who says humans are at the top, how is this any different to a white supremacist saying theyre "at the top" and justifying colonialism and slavery do you believe might makes right?
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