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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 20:19:00 JST 
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Happy Solstice folks! -
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 08:26:05 JST
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Today I got permission from my land lord to setup a scrap metal / small engine drop off so I can start my new hobby / side-hustle of small engine repair. And I get to borrow most/all of the tools and equipment I need to get started. Hurray! -
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 05:30:55 JST
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@sun
Maybe. In context, tmk, this is where the term came about, or at least gained traction.
DEF CON 31 - An Audacious Plan to Halt the Internet's Ensh*ttification - Cory Doctorow | DEFCONConference
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 20-Jun-2025 05:27:24 JST
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@sun
As I understand it, it's about companies first attracting a massive user-base with proprietary services that people become completely dependent on and unable/unwilling to disconnect from due to peer-pressure, then commoditizing that user-base to the point that the utility of the service becomes steadily degraded in the interests of squeezing every possible shekel out of them. -
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jun-2025 23:17:33 JST
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@icedquinn @nemesis
> we don't really have interactions with the other wisdoms to know if they suck or not.
I'd question that pretty strongly. For instance I'm rather fond of this quotation from the 3rd century "Refutation of All Heresies" (translated by Dr. M. David Litwa) which is supposed to be a quotation from teachings by the Naassene preacher (a Gnostic/Ophite sect) which was reputedly in turn received from James, brother of Jesus by way of the priestess Mariamne.
"Blessed one! Whether you are born of Kronos or Zeus
Or Rhea, I loudly hail thee!
Attis, you are the name at which Rhea hides her face.
You the Assyrians call “thrice-desired Adonis.”
All Egypt calls you “Osiris.”
Greek wisdom calls you “Celestial horn of the Crescent Moon.”
Samothracians call you august “Adamas.”
Haimonians call you “Corybas.”
And Phrygians call you now “Papas,”
Now again “corpse,” “god,” “unfruitful,” “goatherd,”
“Green ear of harvested grain” or “fruitful one” whom the almond bore,
And “pipe-player.”
I shall sing of Attis, son of Rhea!
I shall not rattle with castanets
Nor bellow with the flute
Of the Idaian Curetes.
No, I blend with the Phoeban muse
As I play my lyre—euoi!
Euan! I shall sing of you as Pan, as Bacchus,
As the Shepherd of gleaming white stars!"
"Gnosticism" is really a bit of a stereotype and umbrella term which is often erroneously used to unify a lot of at times completely unrelated fringe sects of Christinanity spanning from the early 2nd century (eg. Valentinian) through to medieval times and beyond (eg. Bogomils). -
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jun-2025 22:54:19 JST
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@nemesis @icedquinn
Personally I don't know that I'd use any of the Classical Pagan terminology to refer to my theology/philosophy. There's a lot of overlap in certain areas, but no one tradition that I completely agree with 100%. I'm an admirer though, and history enthusiast. I like to see them represented in their own terms rather than dumbed down to suit modern people's prejudices and wilful misunderstandings.
Even some of the elements of the Abrahamic myths overlap with my thinking/feeling, but I refuse to advocate those beliefs on the basis that they're too reliably misused throughout their entire history to support behaviour I regard as fucking batshit insane and intrinsically destructive on all levels. But even a broken clock is right twice a day as it were. -
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jun-2025 13:03:28 JST
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@sj_zero @Autumn @chadtoshinakamoto @rw
I found this essay by Dr. Shana Zaia (Assyriologist) whose doctoral research focused on the interplay between royal power and official religious cult in Assyria from c. 1000-600 BCE. The essay seems really on point with your mention of Assyria, and provides good context for the intersection of religion and conquest across the centuries of history concerned. In particular the essay starts with the following statement.
"According to Neo-Assyrian royal ideology, the king had essentially two main duties: to conquer the lands around him and to use those conquests to enrich his core territories." However she goes on to explain "...this did not translate into forcing subjects to worship Aššur; actually, worshipping Aššur outside of his eponymous patron city of Assur was strongly discouraged, and conquered peoples were not required to give up their local cults either. Nor did the Assyrians wage war on other groups because of religious differences – there was no ‘holy war’ in the sense that one would understand it today. In fact, non-Assyrian deities often had important roles alongside native ones in Assyrian royal ideology; for instance, in the treaty corpus. ... Only twice in a 500-year period do Assyrian royal inscriptions record the purposeful destruction of cult images, and these were extreme cases."
You can read the rest at your leisure.
https://shanazaia.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/zaia_the-cosmic-front_published-2024.pdf
Suffice it to say that regarding Assyrian conquest as a mandatory religious activity is an over-simplification given the shared broad overlap in cultic practices and deities with neighbouring kingdoms such as Sumer, Babylon, Urartu, Akkad, Elam, Canaan, etc. It was instead an ideology specific to the Assyrian royalty exclusively. In particular the complete eradication of subject peoples along with their regional religious identities was expressly counter to the desired result of conquest, since the role of foreign deities in validating treaty negotiations was essential, and the care and reverence provided towards those foreign deities by the Assyrians themselves was omnipresent excepting only 2 instances during the entire period of their empire.
This lecture by Dr. Zaia is also quite interesting and reiterates the non-existence of "holy-war" in this context.
Assyrian Renaissance: The Religion of Assyria - Dr. Shana Zaia | Assyrian Cultural Foundation
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jun-2025 13:03:26 JST
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@sj_zero @Autumn @chadtoshinakamoto @rw
I think a lot of this debate has veered off into a tangent of whataboutery quite distant from my original point.
Abrahamic religion is uniquely narcissistic and genocidal in nature. That goes for Judajism, Christinanity and Islame alike. The primary reason for that is that the so-called sacred literature explicitly celebrates Abrahamic supremacy, exclusive claim to truth, and actively and vehemently vilifies any other system of belief, lifestyle or group. Moreover the 2,300 years of it's history right to the present day has repeatedly validated that fact. It's not exclusive to an institution but a feature which is reliably evident even in the common uninitiated reader/adherent.
To the limited extent some minor sects of Abrahamic religion may not have this feature, it's arguably due to outside influences from Pagan traditions such as Platonism and Hermeticism which focus more on the esoteric aspects of theology rather than literal and fundamentalist interpretations of what in reality are simply a set of historically farcical and culturally atavistic fairy tales. Either that or people are just cherry picking their favourite saccharine platitudes and leaving the obviously repugnant elements aside, while turning a blind eye to the consequences of continuing to promote the underlying ideological tradition.
Paganisms do not suffer from this mainly because there is no text mandating this sort of belief or behaviour. That doesn't mean some rulers of nation-states who were Pagan have not acted violently towards outsiders. Rather it was not done by the mandate of the religion, but instead for more mundane reasons such as acquisition of territory, material resources, and power, with religion acting merely as a ubiquitous cultural backdrop otherwise unassociated with that activity.
I could go on and debunk much of the rest of what you've said too, such as discussing the Islameic institution of Jizya and it's role in religious conversions and so forth, but it really just amounts to getting sidetracked by whataboutery that distracts from the actual point I was making. -
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@sj_zero @Autumn @chadtoshinakamoto @rw
I'm fine with broadening my horizons and learning more too. Don't get me wrong. I appreciate your perspective and meant no disrespect to you personally. But as said also, it was really besides the point.
Genocidal narcissistic superstition is intrinsically baked into Abrahamic religion, and consistently evident in it's application from it's inception right to the present day. There simply aren't any other supposed religious traditions which have that ignominious distinction. It's essentially hate speech wrapped in a transparently thin facade of hypocritical saccharine platitudes. -
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@chadtoshinakamoto @Autumn @rw @sj_zero
> ...you really don't like Abrahamic religions
They're not religions. They're glorified superstitions.
> Your hatred...
Denouncing hatred and the intentional promotion of violent mass delusion can certainly come off that way. But you're dead wrong about it. Besides which, it's the ideology I opposed. People who subscribe to that are free to change their minds.
> ...is a component of literally every belief set since the beginning of time.
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@chadtoshinakamoto @Autumn @rw @sj_zero
Give me one example of a war started by Gnostics and I'll concede that you have a point. -
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jun-2025 12:36:31 JST
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@genmaicha @sun
He's literally knob gobbling the Heritage Foundation which believes exactly that. -
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 15:44:05 JST
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@sun @feld @a
It was the pretext for German (and other European) Zionists to ally with Nazis during WW2.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/02/24/zionism-in-the-age-of-the-dictators/ -
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 14-Jun-2025 21:34:30 JST
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@KeepTakingTheSoma @Autumn @chadtoshinakamoto @rw @sj_zero
Also the most widely accepted reason for the collapse of Minoan civilisation was the eruption of mount Thera (modern Santorini) in ~1600 BCE. While Minoans did very occasionally conduct human sacrifice, it wasn't really a contributing factor to their demise. Particularly given that the practice was by no means unique to them.
Interesting the eruption of Thera is likely an event which precipitated the Hyksos expulsion from Egypt which is featured in the Abrahamic Exodus myth, albeit wildly out of context. Moreover while those classical Mediterranean Pagan cultures did occasionally commit human sacrifice, by the Iron age it had widely fallen out of favour and was considered a barbaric practice. This however is not the case for Abrahamic religions such as Judaism where human sacrifice (herem) continues to be practised on a massive scale to this very day.
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 14-Jun-2025 18:53:01 JST
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@sj_zero @Autumn @chadtoshinakamoto @rw
Oh. One last thing...
> It's one of the reasons the Spanish had such an easy time conquering the continent, because everyone was like "Oh, your Christian God doesn't ask for human sacrifices? I'm in."
I don't think that's really how it went down. At least not based on the eye witness accounts...
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 14-Jun-2025 18:52:55 JST
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@sj_zero @Autumn @chadtoshinakamoto @rw
Thanks for that. I can't dispute what you're saying off the top of my head without doing some further research of my own on the subjects in question.
> In the end, the rest of Mesopotamia put their grudges aside for the sole purpose of wiping the Assyrians off the map.
Let's hope the same happens to the Abrahamic religions. They've had 2,300 years (since the advent of the Torah) to get it right, and have utterly failed. It's well past time for them die in ignominy.
> ...the only relic of the civilization was an ancient story of the golden fleece.
I think you're mistaking the Minoans who lived on the island of Crete in the Mediterranean Sea, with the Colchians who lived in what is now Georgia on the coast of the Black Sea. The golden fleece is a mythical portrayal of what is in fact a Baltic gold panning method (wash sediment over a fleece, and the heavy gold particles get stuck in the wool) still in use today.
Anyway, food for thought. I'll look into the rest of that and if it's still timely and relevant, perhaps offer my feedback. -
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 14-Jun-2025 18:51:32 JST
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@chadtoshinakamoto @rw @Autumn
It's important to appreciate the bastardised Platonism that serves as the backbone of Abrahamic theology. -
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@chadtoshinakamoto @Autumn @rw
The Abrahamic traditions are the only I know of whose scriptures are routinely (and reliably since their inception) quoted as justification for genocidal violence. It's less a religion and more a narcissistic mass delusional superstition bent on world domination. -
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@chadtoshinakamoto @Autumn @rw
> But also more ancient religions also do the same things.
By all means, feel free to point out any examples you know of where non-Abrahamic religious scriptures or traditions have been cited as the pretext to instigate conflict and/or commit genocide (and specifically which were not responses to provocation by Abrahamic religious groups). I don't think you'll have any luck.
> The gods of the old world are the same as gods of new, and they will always exact their dues.
Holocausts (ie. wholly burnt offerings) are a form of sacrifice mandated by the Abrahamic God. There are no Pagan Gods I'm aware of who accept this form of sacrifice, nor who relish genocide, much less routinely demand either as a demonstration of religious virtue. -
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 14-Jun-2025 18:32:25 JST
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@sun
Maybe unrelated, but I have a similar problem because the WAP I'm connecting to keeps instructing my wifi card's kernel module to enter power saving mode. I haven't yet figure out how to turn off that behaviour, which is a pain in the arse.
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