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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 05-Dec-2025 07:48:53 JST 
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@f0x @vitalis
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 05-Dec-2025 07:48:52 JST
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@f0x @vitalis
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 05-Dec-2025 07:48:51 JST
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@f0x @vitalis
The only thing from that quote (and 1 Timothy 1:10) seems to apply is "sodomite". The contemporary interpretation (vis-a-vis KJV) applies that to the male who does the penetrating during male homosexual intercourse. However in the OT it also applies to "qadeshim" (male temple prostitutes in Canaanite religion), such as described in Deuteronomy 23:17, 1 Kings 14:24, and 2 Kings 23:7. The word translated as "fornicator" (πόρνοι, pornoi) refers to premarital sex, adultery, prostitution, pimping, etc. It wasn't associated with anal sex, unless it involved male homosexuality. Ergo, no explicit prohibition in this context. -
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 05-Dec-2025 07:48:49 JST
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@f0x @vitalis
Like I said, sodomy refers to male temple prostitution in a Canaanite religion. The association with butt sex is a modern interpretation which is missing the original context of the term. -
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 05-Dec-2025 07:48:48 JST
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@vitalis @f0x
Interesting to know. I guess how you interpret it depends whether your belief system is based on the Biblical text (such that they're even coherent) or instead on localised institutional dogma from a millennium later. That said, most of what people today take for granted as Christian doctrine and Biblical text (in English) is actually just a few centuries old, if that.
Speaking of medieval sexual morality though, you might be interested in this discussion/exposition of medieval Christmas carols. It specifically goes into the attitudes around sexuality in a religious context during that period, particularly in 15th-century (pre-reformation) Britain. The women in the video are both musicians and composers, but also PhD level scholars of the subject. Stef Conner's whole YT channel is a gold mine for that kinda stuff.
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 24-Nov-2025 10:50:49 JST
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@Terry @TraditionalWhiteGuy
They've been doing this kinda shit to Pagans for eons. No one gives a fuck unless the target is another Abrahamic superstition. Personally I can't wait for all the Abrahamites to wipe each other out. Couldn't happen soon enough. -
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 20-Nov-2025 05:41:45 JST
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Nov-2025 13:06:54 JST
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@djsumdog
What's so surprising?
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Nov-2025 15:47:57 JST
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@Bernard
> ...did not want to cross breed their species to lose their distinctive qualities.
To some extent. But then you also have all kinds of examples in Russia where Asians and Europeans have interbred and created unique cultures. In North America you have the Metis, who were Scottish, Irish and French settlers who intermarried with Indigenous people and formed their own distinct culture. Everywhere you have groups of different people living side by side, you find some group of people who starts to form on the edge between them with a fusion of their characteristics eventually becoming a distinct society. In fact, if you look at any human society, you'll find that originally that's precisely how it came to exist whatsoever, even as far back as the merger between Neanderthals, Denisovians and Homo-whatever, etc. You can no more impose an artificial barrier between people than you can hold back the tides with a cheesecloth. -
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Nov-2025 14:53:50 JST
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@Breaking911
"Article 11. As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion," -- signed by John Adams
https://www.usconstitution.net/tripoli-html/
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprize every expanded prospect." -- James Madison
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Madison/01-01-02-0031
"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." -- Thomas Paine
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/3743
"I had been religiously educated as a Presbyterian; and though some of the dogmas of that persuasion, such as the eternal decrees of God, election, reprobation, etc., appeared to me unintelligible, others doubtful, and I early absented myself from the public assemblies of the sect... Some books against Deism fell into my hands; they were said to be the substance of sermons preached at Boyle's Lectures. It happened that they wrought an effect on me quite contrary to what was intended by them; for the arguments of the Deists, which were quoted to be refuted, appeared to me much stronger than the refutations; in short, I soon became a thorough Deist." --Benjamin Franklin
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/20203/20203-h/20203-h.htm
"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State." -- Thomas Jefferson
https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html
"[wh]y have Xns. been distinguished above all people who have ever lived for persecutions? is it because it is the genius of their religion? no, it’s genius is the reverse, it is the refusing toleration to those of a different opn. which has produced all the bustles & wars on account of religion. it was the misfortune of mankind that during the darker centuries the Xn priests following their ambition & avarice & combining with the magistrates to divide the spoils of the people, could establish the notion that schismatics might be ousted of their possessions & destroyed. this notion we have not yet cleared ourselves from. in this case no wonder the oppressed should rebel, & they will continue to rebel & raise disturbance until their civil rights are fully restored to them & all partial distinctions, exclusions & incapacitations removed." -- Thomas Jefferson
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/01-01-02-0222-0007
"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson
https://archive.org/details/notesonstateofvi00jeff
"Twenty times, in the course of my late Reading, have I been upon the point of breaking out, “This would be the best of all possible Worlds, if there were no Religion in it”!!!" -- John Adams
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Adams/99-02-02-6744
"H.Con.Res.331 - A concurrent resolution to acknowledge the contribution of the Iroquois Confederacy of Nations to the development of the United States Constitution and to reaffirm the continuing government-to-government relationship between Indian tribes and the United States established in the Constitution."
https://www.congress.gov/bill/100th-congress/house-concurrent-resolution/331
"The Great Law" - Injunuity | Vision Maker Media - A brief overview of the role played by Haudenosaunee chieftains and holy men in the formation of the US constitution
https://youtu.be/L1V5VeRdMnI
"Apotheosis of Washington: Painted in 1865 by Constantino Brumidi, the fresco is suspended 180 feet above the Rotunda floor [of the U.S. Capitol] and covers an area of 4,664 square feet."
https://www.aoc.gov/explore-capitol-campus/art/apotheosis-washington
"Statue of Liberty inspiration: The Roman Goddess Libertas
In the late 1800s, one of the most significant female icons in American culture was the Roman goddess Libertas, a female figure clad in robes. In ancient Rome, she was worshipped as the goddess of freedom, particularly amongst slaves. Even in the 19th century, this figure could be found on American coins, in popular culture, and on civic art. Representations of her were commonly used symbolically by artists, so it was the perfect inspiration for Bartholdi."
https://www.statueoflibertytour.com/blog/the-woman-behind-the-statue-of-liberty-who-is-lady-liberty/ -
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Nov-2025 14:53:48 JST
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@Bernard @Breaking911
A very similar symbol is used by the Haudenosaunee Confederacy which helped formulate the constitution of USA.
In their origin story, the spiritual leader Deganawida who first articulated the Gayanesshagowa (the constitutional laws of their 1,000 yo democratic confederacy) used a bundle of 5 arrows together representing the original 5 nations (Oneida, Onondaga, Seneca, Mohawk, and Cayuga) as a symbol of strength through unity. The axe/hatchet/tomahawk also comes in with the saying "Bury the hatchet.", which represents them mutually burying their weapons (symbolising past conflicts between nations) under the tree of great peace.
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Nov-2025 14:53:47 JST
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@Bernard @Breaking911
Personally I like the idea of diversity for a number of reasons. First off, any person familiar with plant or animal husbandry can tell you why diversity is important. It creates resilient ecosystems with self-sustaining fertility. Similarly anyone who has an investment portfolio. Same reason in both cases. But to me diversity means everyone maintains their own separate unique cultural identity without having it dissolve in a melting pot under the influence of the larger society. They may share certain common features which maintain peace between them, but individually they are quite different.
In the case of the Haudenoasaunee's constitutional democracy (which is the oldest which still exists on Earth), it didn't involve any of the confederate nations giving up their unique identity. They agreed to a common set of rules to govern their international cooperation, but individually continue to govern their nations autonomously from each other. Notwithstanding the imposition of colonial "band council" puppet governments tasked with providing the illusion of consultation and consent with colonial laws, and to embezzle treaty funds... But I digress.
Even within each nation of the Haudenosaunee, as is also true of other neighbouring indigenous groups, while you have the over-arching national laws which govern the whole people, you also have individual clans (eg. Turtle clan, Bear clan, Wolf clan, Eagle clan, etc, etc, etc) within that which also individually have their own laws, customs, languages, and genealogies. However for the Ojibwe for instance, a member of one clan is not allowed to marry a member of the same clan, but is required to marry some one outside clan in order to prevent congenital birth defects from inbreeding, and to discourage infighting between clans (people are less likely to wage war against their own relatives). To my knowledge that's also true among the Haudenosaunee, and many other indigenous groups for the same reasons.
Eliminating diversity is like reducing the whole spectrum of music down to just a single note, all the variety of spoken languages down to a single guttural utterance "Ugh!", all the colours of paint on a pallet to just black on white, all the recipes of gourmet cuisine to just bread and water, etc. Variety is the spice of life! -
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Nov-2025 14:53:44 JST
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@Bernard @Breaking911
Yeah. I agree with that for the most part. Many of the inhabitants of the USA were at war with each other, or otherwise had some kind of violent power imbalance, just a few generations ago, and in some cases still present day. That doesn't really make for a very unified society. On the other hand, even the nations of the modern day Haudenosaunee were involved in centuries of war between each other prior to the confederacy being formed. There was an honour code that required that if someone killed a member of another nation, then the people of that nation were required to kill or kidnap someone in retaliation. In plenty of cases it also involved cannibalism. But eventually people got sick and tired of that cycle of violence, and at the instigation of one of their chiefs (Hiawatha) and a foreign spiritual leader (Deganawida, possibly from among the Huron-Wendat), they managed to form a social movement to bring peace to their nations. It's a really interesting legend. The long and short of it though is 1,000 years of peace between them, and consequently their influence upon the formation of the USA from the formerly warring American colonies. What the American system left out however was gender and racial equality, which as anyone can see readily for themselves, continues to be a fundamental source of conflict to this day. -
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Nov-2025 14:53:42 JST
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@DrFell @Bernard @Breaking911
Assuming I even agree with the religious concept of good vs evil (which I don't), I disagree. Forcing homogeneity upon people is it's own form of evil. Fuck that! -
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@DrFell @Bernard @Breaking911
Also bear in mind that there aren't any writings left from Pythagoras himself, but all are filtered through the lens of later traditions such as Platonism (eg. Plutarch). Personally one of my favourite supposedly rogue Pythagorean is Empedocles. His poetry has been a source of inspiration for me since high school.
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Nov-2025 14:35:27 JST
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 17-Nov-2025 12:38:05 JST
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@nerthos @georgia @shibao
> We're all genocidal narcissists fighting for our own cause. To each tribe, it's a war of self-defense against XYZ aggression.
I can see how you'd have that impression when the only theological concept you've been inculcated with is Abrahamic. But outside that set of superstitions it's not quite as relevant as you think. At least not on the basis of religion.
> how many thousands of druids and shamans and their tribes, agreeing to stand under a single banner?
If you ever attend a Pagan festival you'll see for yourself. When it comes to theological differences the overarching Pagan ethos is "respectful cultural exchange". We may march to different drummers, but we have no problem doing it under a big tent together, nor with coming to each others' defence as needed.
> denounce things like polygamy
As a rule Pagans don't concern themselves with the consensual sexual activity of other people. So on that count, you're unlikely to find too much support.
> this war was decided
It's not a war. It's a garden that's in a continual process of cultivation. You can spread shit over it all you want, but end of the day even if it looks like it's covered up, it only grows stronger as a result. -
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 17-Nov-2025 12:38:04 JST
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@nerthos @georgia @shibao
> The classic "you disagree because you're ignorant and I'm wise" bullshit
More like the "show me evidence/examples to the contrary".
What strikes me about the past few comments is that I'm criticising an ideology along with it's historical track record and the evident consequences of perpetuating it. You guys on the other hand are simply deflecting with butthurt and personal insults. That's a rather stark difference in attitude from where I'm standing.
> You're thousands in a battleground decided by hundreds of millions.
I'd rather fight on the side of what I feel is right, regardless of the forces stacked against me. In the words of Odin, "The coward believes he will live forever if he holds back in the battle, but in old age he shall have no peace though spears have spared his limbs."
> discussing Christian theology just to insult it, you're the aggressor here.
Yeah. And the victim is the theology, not you yourselves. A fact worth remembering. -
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@nerthos @georgia @shibao
> You're pissed about people being friendly towards Christianity
Again, as I've said at least twice already, I'm pissed about people promoting an ideology which explicitly advocates to murder me and my ilk (with the consistent historical trackrecord to show for it).
I'm friendly towards individual Christians too, but not Christianity as an ideology, for the aforementioned reason.
> Completely off topic thread-crashing
I started off posting about divination, but the conversation took a turn towards theology. I'm not the only one responsible for that. And frankly if you don't want people responding in a public thread, don't fucking post it in public. #socialmedia101
> We have agreement on this at least
Small blessings. Though I'd wager what we respectively consider "right" would still be at crossed purposes. -
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⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 17-Nov-2025 12:01:25 JST
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@georgia @shibao @nerthos
I haven't told anyone else what to believe. At most I've explained why I don't believe, and why belief is more or less irrelevant. As to superstition, I'm hardly the first to say this about Abrahamic beliefs. People like Celsus, Porphyry, Julian, Cicero, and so on have been said the same thousands of years ago, and very accurately predicted the results of ignoring that fact. I'd say if you want to hear what I do believe, you could ask me, but you just burned that bridge. I won't waste breath discussing spiritual matters with you now.
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