Notices by Jenniferplusplus (jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io), page 6

@seachanger @scott I more meant alternatives to mastodon, but I'm a little biased towards that path. I think there are technical limits to what can be done with forks, and I don't expect Eugen to respond to that. But I could be wrong

A lot of people are seeing that the fediverse is not viewed as an attractive alternative to Twitter, and concluding is because people don't know about it. But I'm pretty sure people don't see it as an attractive alternative because they do know about it.

I guess I'm just muting this now, because holy shit is this thread going to be a top tier example of what makes this place unappealing.

Not that anyone asked, but it actually doesn't surprise me that Twitter likely getting shut down in Brazil is not dominating fediverse discussions. I would have a really hard time recommending that Brazilians move here en masse. The culture around here is—let's say—unwelcoming, and the moderation and safety tools are extremely not adequate to offset that.

The fediverse is not well connected to Brazilian social networks, and this doesn't seem likely to change that. Which sucks, for the record.

@inthehands Computer, enhance

@erincandescent @darius @thisismissem @mauve @trwnh undo is also a problem.

@darius @trwnh @thisismissem @mauve Because of Announce, as the obvious case. But more generally, when an object was created doesn't have any real connection to when it should be presented to people. Mastodon is doing more or less the right thing, here.

I wish mastodon would be more prompt in backfilling from the outbox, so that this wouldn't even seem necessary. But even that is basically the right behavior.

@trwnh @darius @thisismissem @mauve objects have dereferenceable URIs. Why wouldn't I make that a first class entity in my data model?

@trwnh @darius @thisismissem @mauve
Unless the activity is intentionally transient. The spec says this twice in two paragraphs. I don't know what it means for an activity to *not* be transient. Activities are actions, not ongoing persistent state. The objects the refer to are the persistent state.

@erincandescent @darius @thisismissem @mauve @trwnh I would argue that about non-transient activities.

@inthehands @jdp23 yes, yes, real programmers use quantum string vibrations etc

@inthehands hm, except that it turns out to matter what kind of thing things are, and also what other things they're related to, and in what way.

Me, fucking around: what if I put a lot of thought and care into designing a data model that supports the kind of interactions I want people to have and features I know they expect?

Me, finding out: fuck, shit, now I have to serialize this as activitypub, fuck

@inthehands @ct_bergstrom the worst part is how often those people are supposedly experienced practitioners of the job they do poorly understand

@inthehands yeah, it sounds weird. I think there's a missing noun. Some parts of the water... Or some glasses of water....

@mattly @MonaApp anything would be better than the firehose of every single interaction that anyone in the world has with any of your posts would be better.

@mattly For real though, the experience of doing any kind of numbers on mastodon is so punishing. I genuinely post less because of it.

@mattly RIP to your notifications

@inthehands @JessTheUnstill @dgoldsmith it's because there's basically zero cost to being bad at employing people. Capital will flow to any established enterprise, no matter how dysfunctional it is. Capital will starve or subvert any upstart firm could challenge the dominance of the incumbents. Commodified housing means hardly anyone can just leave the labor market, and labor is so thoroughly tamed that tech cos spent the last year literally decimating their workforces with no push back.

@inthehands my favorite git gui is jetbrains IDEs. But I realize that may not be the most helpful option in this case