You may remember how I complained for years about moderation, rules, instance blocking by admins, etc. I saw a direct connection between restriction of free (unimpeded) speech and restriction of federation (with a split into various sub-diverses). Why block whole instances when (at least in principle) every user can decide for himself what content to allow in his TL and what not?
Contemplating my experiences on X, in which moderation has drastically receeded and where I less and less feel comfortable to be around, I recently came to the conclusion that I may have been wrong. That indeed some moderation and blocking of accounts and instances on the level of instances and admins seems necessary. Otherwise, at least on X, you spend the half of your time muting and blocking. Why would one waste one's time in *such* activities.
Still, I don't know. But I feel the advocates of moderation (broadly understood) had a far better understanding than I had.
@simsa03 i don't think federated social media should try to be a better version of the big commercial platforms. same same but more freedom and more privacy or whatever. the point of it all for me was to put the power over the platforms in the users' own hands, or at least much closer to their hands. then we would have the power to completely transform social media from a time sucking black hole of pointless reactions to pr and trolls, into something that could be a useful tool connecting people who wanted to transform the whole of society. having that perspective and those goals, blocking whole instances was a non issue for me. of course we didn't want to waste any time "discussing" free speech with alt-right maniacs or people posting child pornography. *block* and good bye. we had no interest in being on that playing field (or island, @lnxw48a1), we were trying to do something completely else. mimicking existing social media was just the first step, and i thought we were very clear about that. but i don't think most people ever got it. now i'm no longer sure social media, federated or not, has the potential to organize anything useful. maybe the the real stuff must be done in reality, afk.
@simsa03 i really can't remember what bad things were said, but i remember that you said what you thought was true and right, seemingly without regard to authority, personal gain or popularity. i respect that a lot. i know you didn't agree with me on everything, but i think it was mainly productive disagreements. i certainly also remember the massive work you did with documentation, the faq and helping newcomers. that was very important, and i think we both played a part to keep the fediverse idea alive back then.
i did sell my flat, and built a small house on wheels and started growing potatoes. it's sad that i wasn't able to keep the image sharing gnu social site quit.im online at least, but we have a blog called hafsbloggen now, where i write sometimes, in swedish.
@simsa03 i really can't remember what bad things were said, but i remember that you said what you thought was true and right, seemingly without regard to authority, personal gain or popularity. i respect that a lot. i know you didn't agree with me on everything, but i think it was mainly productive disagreements. i certainly also remember the massive work you did with documentation, the faq and helping newcomers. that was very important, and i think we both played a part to keep the fediverse idea alive back then.
i did sell my flat, and built a small house on wheels and started growing potatoes. it's sad that i wasn't able to keep the image sharing gnu social site quit.im online at least, but we have a blog called hafsbloggen now, where i write sometimes, in swedish.
when I was an active developer and was hosting a gnusocial node, I used to say that domain blocking was one of the good features with decentralised social media. back then there were some alternatives that used block chain-technology for a completely distributed and completely individualistic system, which I thought was a bad thing.
i think that the semi-decentralised model that email, gnusocial, mastodon, misskey etc uses is a powerful compromise, that gives users a sense of community and responsibility for their node in the network, while still not hiding in a closed secret club. the possibility to block whole servers should be one of the tools the community have to make the server what they want it to be. although i also think it should be transparent exactly which servers are blocked, so users can make informed choices on which server to join/leave.
decentralised social media is not the right tool for free speech fanatics, they should try build some kind of laissez-faire blockchain network (i hope they don't succed).
@rio i don't know any japanese, so it's difficult for me to understand this conflict :) but it seems it would be easier for everyone if misskey and gnusocial.jp could just cooperate to solve the problems with federation so you don't need to block? both parties should have an interest in making their software work with other platforms.
@gnusocialjp i got burnt out with qvitter/gnu social development in 2017 and i have not followed what has happened with the fediverse at all since then. i got curious if anyone still used qvitter and found your instance. you got the server running really smoothly, and i am impressed that it works so good.
but i'm sorry to disappoint, I don't think I can be much help now. i have done almost zero software development since then. your fork on github could be considered the official qvitter repo now. i doubt i still have the skills and strength to contribute anything meaningful. maybe something small in the future.
i still believe that a non-profit decentralised social media is a important piece of the puzzle for an anti-capitalist movement to use for organising. and sure, developers will need money to be able to focus on developing and not waste their lives on wage labour.
what disappointed me was that the european left didn't care about owning the means of communication. european activists and social movements thought twitter and facebook were fine, and didn't have any interest in gnu social.
it just became to depressing for me. it seemed to me that the european anarchist left measured their success in the number of likes they got on capitalist platforms.
what i thought back then, and what i still believe, is that gnusocial needs to connect with existing anti-capitalist movements "on the ground". the network needs to do some real work, organising something material. people sharing skills to become more self sufficiant, distributing real stuff in the network, from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs. that is the spirit of free software, and free software people need to take those ethics out of the computers and apply it to the whole of society.
gnusocial needs to know what it wants, what movement it wants to be a part of. otherwise it will be co-opted.