we keep hearing "the bobot is getting better at writing code all the time" and you know what we keep not seeing? a single god damn bit of improvement. it generates verbose dogshit full of useless indirection, misleading comments, redundant expressions, and outright nonsense. you people think this is good? from here it looks like you have no fucking skill at judging code quality
the patterns it turns out are so mind-bendingly wrong that we haven't even encountered them in even the rankest of beginners. people do not write code like that. it's a fucking farce
@atax1a i think there's a fundamental issue the LLM is basically a cheap intern but its still sidestepping that you shouldn't need interns.
people will deadass use a hyperscaler datacenter and two million tokens instead of just write a little xml file and template expand it to code :blobcatgoogly:
If you've been paying attention you know about the IOU #AI companies pass around and pretend is cash. You know about the huge amount of private debt ran up by the hyperscalers as they build out the datacenters. You know about the accelerated depreciation cycles they are trying to hide from their debtors.
Here's someone bringing all those things together:
> The assumption — because nobody ever thinks things through — was that because one OpenAI existed, many OpenAIs would bloom. That because one large customer of compute existed, the template had been built for future compute-intensive startups…and, again, because nobody ever thinks about anything, nobody ever stopped to realize that the reason there isn’t another OpenAI is because OpenAI and Anthropic are financial psy-ops by the largest software companies in the world.
> Remove OpenAI from the years 2020 through 2024 and the AI bubble wouldn’t have inflated at all. No other major AI companies showed any sign of life — not those peddled by hyperscalers, funded by venture capitalists, or those launched by other tech firms.
And, just to remind you this is a Ponzi scheme masquerading as a business model…
> Who loses when it cracks: not NVIDIA, which was paid up front. Not the managers, who earned fees building the exposure. Not the hyperscalers, who offloaded the capex and will buy distressed compute cheap. The loss lands on the capital furthest from the deal, with the least information about holding it: the annuity holder, the wealth-channel client, retail investors, retirees, and the private credit shareholders.
@lain@lain.com@mischievoustomato@tsundere.love the linkedin version captured something about the meaning that the literal translation didn't, which is that a butcher of animals is meant to also mean someone who kills themselves/the Self ie someone who acts against their own interests and "kills" the divinity within them
This is a general upturn, but tech stocks are doing quite well. And yet a rate cut doesn't change fundamentals of the bubble, so this seems like the old saw: "The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent."
Remember Thursday's short downturn in AI stocks the day after Nvidia released their self-fluffed earnings report? It was caused by AI trading systems flagging accounting fraud.
> The Algorithm That Detected a $610 Billion Fraud: How Machine Intelligence Exposed the AI Industry’s Circular Financing Scheme. https://substack.com/inbox/post/179453867
And the recovery afterwards? That is apparently human beings deciding the AI systems were full of shit.
NOTE: If you've been thinking about trying to set up a big short when the AI bubble finally pops, this could be a good time to take a small flyer – assuming you can afford to take a loss. Because it's likely not the time yet.
I don't think there's going to be any way to predict when the market's attitude makes that sudden turn against AI stocks and, sure, this could be it. But I don't think so.
I will enjoy watching Oracle get pummeled though. So I'm hoping for that much.
The market rallied a bit by EOD yesterday, but that evaporated when it opened this morning, followed by tech stocks hitting two-week lows. Oracle and other #AI#bubble concerns were a big reason.
Last night Asian and futures markets were bearish on Oracle due to their disappointing earnings report and I suggested if this continued once USA markets opened this morning the malaise could spread to other tech stocks.
@ChrisMayLA6 has an interesting chart showing one significant difference between the current #AI#bubble compared to both the 2000 Tech bubble and the 1989 Japan Finance bubble.
Of course this chart only includes big players with track records, which is fair. But a bit misleading for the AI bubble because the big players this time (aside from Tesla) were priced down in a way similar to IBM in previous bubbles. While smaller players are priced stupid high.
I was expecting the market to drop a bit today and tomorrow, but the 3rd quarter US gov economic data dropped last night and the market loves it. (I find the reported data rather suspect myself, but then I find everything from the government suspect these days.)
That said, I think today is probably the high-water mark for the week and we'll see a drop in remaining trading days. It's been a pattern for a while now.
The USA jobs report came out today and … not glowing. In fact indications of a downturn. Given my concerns about government data from this administration I'm wondering if they massaged those numbers from even worse ones.
In any case the market REALLY wants to stay optimistic. I can't help but feel like it's a perky gym worker trying to rally an exhausted cardio class.
> "… you've got a new sense of optimism in the market ... this is a week where we're going to get real economic data for the first time in months and that's going to help clear out some of the fog …"
The market is up a bit today, going against the common wisdom that investigating Fed Chair Powell should be of concern. I've seen some people suggesting this is because Big Tech, like Real Estate, loves lower interest rates because they depend so heavily on debt for operations.
You will note the Financial sector isn't doing as well – they know the Fed needs to be independent of the Administration.
This back and forth, up and down, is so headspinning. It's probably best to think of it as an example of a confused market searching for stability, but instead lurching back and forth between different industries and market segments. This is *not* a stable market.
Most market sectors recovered from yesterday's declines, with the exception of Financial and Tech. The Financial losses have a clear reason (see up-thread), but Tech stock valuations wouldn't be affected by that. For now I'm assuming it's more early #AI#bubble investors moving their profits to safer investments, like arms manufacturers.
Mixed trading today. Tech values still buoyed by chipmaker profit predictions … and chipmaker profit predictions still based on assuming the #AI#bubble keeps expanding.
Anyone who thinks the market is always rational has a hole in their head.
And today Finance and Tech sectors are recovering as well. In the case of Tech, this is mostly because chipmakers are predicting record profits this year because of #AI. So it's really just more #bubble talk and some segment of the market is still believing it.
Here is a helpful explainer from 2024 on how USA Treasury bonds work and how things can go wrong if bond buyers decide the USA is *not a good investment*.
What this article doesn't cover in-depth is what happens if that day comes. The answer is simple: the dollar crashes and the USA economy goes off a cliff. Most likely dragging the rest of the world along with it.
When the market as a whole looks bad money tends to flee to blue-chip Industrial and Energy stocks. Right now the biggest single sector of the market is the #AI#bubble. And major holders of AI stocks include European retirement and sovereign funds. So if the market looks hinky to them they now have two good reasons to sell and sell quickly.
Meaning, even if it's only those stockholders selling, the AI sector tumbles.
Why? Because all European countries together hold more USA Treasury bonds than even China. If they pull out it could devastate the USA bond market and not just for Treasury bonds.
But it gets worse. If bond values tank from this we could see all foreign AND DOMESTIC bond holders trying to get out before values completely flatline. Think bank run, but on the entire country.
So, first two things: The dollar is taking a bath and USA stock futures (to be settled tomorrow morning) are tanking.
This doesn't bode well for the market tomorrow, but could lead to bargain hunting driving prices back up. HOWEVER…
However, USA Treasury bonds have been doing badly lately, with rising yields and not enough takers. And now we have European countries threatening to pull their money out of the USA bond market.