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   ぐぬ管 (GNU social JP管理人) (gnusocialjp@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Thursday, 22-Dec-2022 19:45:42 JST ぐぬ管 (GNU social JP管理人)

   • Hannes
   @hannes Are your Hannes Mannerheim (Qvitter author)?
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     Hannes (hannes@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Thursday, 22-Dec-2022 19:53:25 JST Hannes

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     @gnusocialjp yes (sorry about all the bugs)
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     • Hannes
     Wow! Welcome to back GNU social! I am pleasure for talk you. I missed you.
     
     This is my Qvitter fork repository <https://notabug.org/gnusocialjp/Qvitter>. I could not find your latest repository after ending git.gnu.io . If you have your repository, I will create some PR.
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     Hannes (hannes@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Thursday, 22-Dec-2022 20:14:07 JST Hannes

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     @gnusocialjp it looks like you have the latest version, the latest repository on my computer is dated july 17th 2017.
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     • Hannes
     I chose this repository as the most recent copy <https://github.com/maylay/Qvitter>. Fixed some bugs such as v2 support.
     
     I hope you, the original author, will publish the repository and resume development based on it.
     
     How are you now? What do you think of GNU social and Qvitter?
     
     I started using GNU social around September 2017 (loadaverage.org), so I don't know much about the past.
     
     I think the current GNU social developers (three students) have no passion. Because they don't use GNU social.
     
     I thought that I was the only one who could rebuild GNU social, so I started the site in July of this year.
     
     I believe that money is the most important factor in continuing development. I started this site and web.gnusocial.jp because I wanted to create a business where I could hire myself in a year or two.
     
     Nice to meet you.
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     Hannes (hannes@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Friday, 23-Dec-2022 04:04:41 JST Hannes

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     @gnusocialjp i got burnt out with qvitter/gnu social development in 2017 and i have not followed what has happened with the fediverse at all since then. i got curious if anyone still used qvitter and found your instance. you got the server running really smoothly, and i am impressed that it works so good.
     
     but i'm sorry to disappoint, I don't think I can be much help now. i have done almost zero software development since then. your fork on github could be considered the official qvitter repo now. i doubt i still have the skills and strength to contribute anything meaningful. maybe something small in the future.
     
     i still believe that a non-profit decentralised social media is a important piece of the puzzle for an anti-capitalist movement to use for organising. and sure, developers will need money to be able to focus on developing and not waste their lives on wage labour.
     
     what disappointed me was that the european left didn't care about owning the means of communication. european activists and social movements thought twitter and facebook were fine, and didn't have any interest in gnu social.
     
     it just became to depressing for me. it seemed to me that the european anarchist left measured their success in the number of likes they got on capitalist platforms.
     
     what i thought back then, and what i still believe, is that gnusocial needs to connect with existing anti-capitalist movements "on the ground". the network needs to do some real work, organising something material. people sharing skills to become more self sufficiant, distributing real stuff in the network, from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs. that is the spirit of free software, and free software people need to take those ethics out of the computers and apply it to the whole of society.
     
     gnusocial needs to know what it wants, what movement it wants to be a part of. otherwise it will be co-opted.
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     • Hannes
     @hannes !gs
     > i got curious if anyone still used qvitter and found your instance.
     
     In 2021-07, GNU social (gs) v2 support ActivityPub. But Qvitter needs to fix for v2. So now my server is only Qvitter support open server. Before v2, almost Japanese gs used qvitter. Currently gnusocial.jp is the largest open gs server.
     
     > but i'm sorry to disappoint, I don't think I can be much help now.
     
     OK. I am pleasure for only existing you. Some anarchist hope no JS. But current qvitter requires JS. I will continue fixing Qvitter bugs. Please push your last local repository to your github. Because I misunderstood your github repository is latest firstly. And I will wait for your restart when you feel like it.
     
     I am an FSF associate member (Ken Senoo) <https://www.gnu.org/thankgnus/2022supporters.html>.
     
     I am not familiar with Western European movements. I think distributed SNS is part of the free software movement.
     
     I think GNU social is the best distributed SNS. As an FSF supporter, I will do my best.
     
     Globally, Japan is probably the most active country in decentralized SNS <https://fedidb.org/network?page=1>. If we can succeed in Japan, I believe we succeed in other countries as well.
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