It will never stop being hilarious that a libtard jew like Jesse Singal who has the correct progressive opinions on literally everything but trannies has become the big bad Hitlerite villain of Bluesky.
Eventually the libs will be forced to execute Order 66 and purge the Tranny Order from their ranks if they want to survive. The troons far and beyond are the most corrosive element of their whole platform. Even with all the racially-charged politics and illegal immigrant fetishism, the damage the trannies have inflicted to their power base has done more than all of it combined. They can either cut the lunatic men in dresses loose to try and become modestly more tolerable to the normie votecattle who find those perverts increasingly off-putting, or they can continue to self-destruct over the most hilarious hill any political machine in human history has ever chosen to die on. That's the fork in the road they are rapidly approaching.
We're living through a truly special time in history when the political situation has become so retarded that an archchud like me shares one very solid piece of ideological common ground with a guy like Jesse Singal, who would otherwise undoubtedly love to see me in a gulag for the things I believe.
From the perspective of the long game, you're right, but on a shorter timescale this is the existential decision liberals must make if they want to live to fight another day. I find it fun to flip the chessboard around from time to time and do some backseat coaching that I know my enemies won't listen to anyway, it's a good way to keep your strategic thinking skills sharp.
I haven't listened to his podcast, but I know a little bit about it through osmosis from rDrama. As I understand it, both him and his co-host are JK Rowling-esque TERFs, so conventionally liberal in every way except for the one progressive sacred cow that nobody is ever allowed to criticize.
@Hoss@sun Did he ever even mention trannies or is he just going "wow this community sure is crazy" and the trannies are assuming it means them? (They'd be right but that's besides the point)
I don't think they're going to survive. Some of them will probably do what you say, but they're probably going to fragment into warring factions. BlueSky will end up with one faction or the other, and the opposing faction will migrate to some of fediblock instances which will further fragment and become increasingly divided and impotent.
The interesting thought experiment is what happens if the Democrats actually collapse over this liberal schism. A new opposition will inevitably coalesce, and it will have to cater to one or the other because our system is inherently two-party. That leaves one faction homeless, if it's the tranny faction they'll have few options but to be absorbed into some irrelevant meme third party, but if the anti-tranny faction is somehow the one that's ousted, it's possible at least some (most likely the more politically unengaged among them) could start chudding out in more ways than just the troon question.
@Hoss@cjd@WhitestTemplar@sun many many people on the far right are former liberals, especially among millennials who grew up online in the era where liberal views were the default and the right was nothing more than a bunch of fat retarded boomer faggots getting on talk radio to piss and moan that pokemon is a gateway drug to satanism and DOOM causes school shootings.
For a long time I was a self-identified Libertarian because I saw it as a way to escape the cringe church karens of the mainstream right while still endorsing right-wing economic policy, and I held to this through 2016 when I made a protest vote for Gary Johnson (not my proudest moment), but the unprecedented clownishness of the years that would follow is what lead me to abandon all lolbert associations and walk the path of the chud.
Nikki vs Kamala for 2024 would've been the darkest timeline of all. Both foids, both Indian. Eugh, I would've gone full "burn it all the fuck down" mode. At least Trump is occasionally funny.
I like the NHLP and the LNC. Doing a deal with Trump to run Chase Oliver just to make sure nobody would vote L was a good hustle.
Not sure what specifically they were promised in return, but at least Nikki Hailey is far away from the Whitehouse and the FedGov is getting fired ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Seems like the GOP is also just starting to realize that the boomer portion of their voter base with the huge fetish for Israel is starting to die off and the millennials and zoomers who don't want anything to do with Israel at all are growing in influence. I imagine this demographic shift has a lot to do with why Israel is desperately bribing content creators to shill for them because they see the writing on the wall: the gibs from America they've been used to for a generation are very likely to be unceremoniously cut off within ten years regardless of which direction the political winds blow.
@Hoss@cjd@WhitestTemplar@sun yep at the absolute most charitable towards israel, people are wondering why so many tax dollars go there and what exactly the US gets in return for it. muh only democracy in the middle east? the only people who give a shit about democracy are on team "free palestine". once the boomers die off, "from the river to the sea" is the moderate position.
Democratic party is on it's last legs. It's insane how much they depended on Soros for their funding.
When they collapse, somebody is going to have to offer something - otherwise too many voters would be politically homeless. Possibly Fetterman will pull something out of his hat. Too early to say, but it's pretty clear that it's going to roll back most of the post-2008 woke shit.
Boomers never recovered from "muh radical Islamic terror" GWOT brainrot. Nigger, the Palestinians want to stay where they are, Israel wants to exile them abroad where they'll become _our fucking problem._ This is the crucial distinction that separates the anti-Israel right from the anti-Israel left. We don't really give a shit what goes on in Palestine and there's ostensibly little distinction to be made between Palestinians and any other group of brown Muslim third worlders who live in iron age societies with electricity. The point is that Israel wants them removed, exported to your doorstep, angry and completely incapable of integrating into a foreign society they never wanted to be sent to in the first place. That's what Israel wants, and they know the West will suffer for it like we have every other wave of rapefugees caused by interventionism in service of Greater Israel, but they don't fucking care because they think the filthy goyim deserve it. Boomers are largely incapable of grasping the greater game at play here because they lived very easy lives where you could be a simple first-order thinker your entire life and not just survive, but thrive, so naturally that lead to millions of morons who'd get rekt in a chess game against a Chinese toddler amassing utterly retarded amounts of wealth and political influence.
Eh, don't sweat it. I was also very apolitical (and to a certain degree i avoid politics IRL) and i even tell the story that i had a skinhead in my highschool class.
By how things went you probably would have never guessed the apolitical nerdy dude in highschool would end up like this but hey. You never know where you might end
That's... Kind of normie ngl. For me it begun browsing old /pol/ in college before it became a cesspit of retardation and from there i moved on as i saw things progress
@Morghur@skylar@cjd@Hoss@sun I was apolitical until I found youtube personalities that I agreed with. And my agreements continued further right until here I am. I guess should have prefaced this with I was known as the Nazi kid since middle school. It was mostly because of the aesthetics as I really didn't read too much into the politics or economics, though I've always kind of had socialist leanings.
True. I could adscribe to being a former centre left kind of guy but the constant onslaught of the left being a bunch of retarded faggots as definetly alienated a lot of people like me that just wanted to be left to their own devices without any sort of browbeating from anyone. And as the right receded in that regard the leftoids picked up the pace.
Now the tranny question as well as the inmingration and crime questions are becoming problems the left has no solution and doesn't want to tackle since they don't want to frazzle the most extreme elements that should be shot behind a shed and have their remains burnt.
tbh the last years are an extremely good example to terminate welfare and subsidies, since they were originally created in order to prevent people from falling into militancy for extreme ideologies.
@Morghur@cjd@WhitestTemplar@Hoss@sun watching occupy wall street disintegrate into a festering shithole of progressive nonsense was what did it for me. it was truly a master stroke by the bankers to turn the left from mostly blue collar union guys to mostly all types of twitter freak, from trannies to the guy who's really really interested in repealing the law against sodomizing tortoises, derailing the message from hey how come these rich fuckers crashed the economy and are getting bailed out for it while normal folks suffer to infinity nigger-buttsex. then i noticed too many bankers with funny sounding last names and maybe this hitler fella wasn't just some online joke to piss off the pearl clutching faggots.
@Hoss@skylar@cjd@WhitestTemplar@sun boomers are retarded in general. Their mind set is literally "well it's not my problem i'll be dead before thhe consequences show up, so why should i worry about it?" They literally want to ride it until the wheels fall off consequences be damned because it's not their problem.
Yes, but at this point it's basically an irrelevant "chicken or egg" sort of debate. Was AIPAC's influence built largely off a psyop targeting American evangelicals? Yes. Doesn't change the fact that the psyop took deep root and now we have to deal with the consequences.
@Hoss@skylar@cjd@WhitestTemplar the important point is that Christians are basically dopes that fell for propaganda when people start assigning blame.
It’s totally crazy that a thing that benefits no one except for one group was actually covertly propped up by that one group, so crazy I almost don’t want to believe the Rube Goldberg machine explanation we’re given that it’s caused by a nebulous belief that most Christians can’t even articulate or identify in the bible
I think this mindset was cultivated by the world of abundance and opportunity the boomers grew up in, and thankfully is dying out in the wake of that world evaporating away in a single generation. Boomers lived in a delusion where the pie was unlimited and everybody can have a slice, we live in a reality where the pie is finite and in fact far smaller than people want to believe, and we don't really give a flying fuck about anybody outside of our ingroups not getting a slice.
Not only that, a bunch of them have this "feelgood" mentality that pushes them to not defend their interests or the interests of people around them because it might upset someone.
You shouldn't shoot thieves because you can replace your items. Don't punish shoplifters because it's just a pittance what they steal Don't deny those migrants their place because they have nowhere to go.
All those things would be easily solved by not caring and enforcing rules but because they don't want to feel bad by proxy of rules being enforced against someone they percieve as "severely disadvantaged", thye just let it slide
@Hoss@Tony@Morghur@skylar@cjd@WhitestTemplar in some ways I don’t blame Them because there is a natural trajectory where you start out caring then realize the game is rigged and you check out of living up To your bullshit principles and then people call you a hypocrite. The truth is most boomers aren’t responsible for what happened, it was a shitbag elite class
@Morghur@skylar@cjd@WhitestTemplar@Hoss@sun Well, they have those mindsets because alot of the voting boomers live OUTSIDE the cities in quiet little communities where they are literally surrounded by other middle class white boomers. So of course they say "we shouldn't be mean to "them"" because they never deal with the actual problems these policies create.
For example the gas station i go to to get smokes is literally in the middle of the hood with like loitering black guys, homeless who come up to your car and ask for money, ect. But boomers want to be "compassonate" for these people and yet they would never, ever actually go to the gas station 1 because they live in their isolated communities 2 because they are actually scared of brown people.
Its super shitty, they sit behind their big walled off communities and force the rest of us to deal with shit.
Though, I'm happy about medical care and insurance costs doubling because finally, I think the boomers are going to feel the squeeze and won't be isolated much longer
@Tony@Morghur@skylar@cjd@WhitestTemplar@Hoss I have no problem with forcing them to wake up and also making them see the consequences right before they can cash out so they understand what younger people are experiencing. To that end I support ending social security completely today
@sun@Morghur@skylar@cjd@WhitestTemplar@Hoss They arent responsible but they've been isolated from a lot of the issues that other generations face, like housing prices, lowering incomes, ect.
Thats why i'm happy medicare costs are doubling for them now because they are finally getting squeezed like the rest of us have been for the last 5-10 years.
Now they did everything correctly, got a job, got the 401k, worked 40 years and now their retirements are going to get gutted because the government is literally going bankrupt.
Its sad sure, but maybe the voting block will wake up to "hey, maybe we need to make some changes in the system"
@Tony@Morghur@skylar@cjd@WhitestTemplar@Hoss someone got really mad at me the other day because I said we should deduct the accrued boomer national debt from social security and they would owe us money
@sun@Morghur@skylar@cjd@WhitestTemplar@Hoss well, according to my extended family, health insurance/home owner insurance just double this year and social security is getting cut by 20 some percent by early 2030, so it looks like even middle class boomers are going to get downgraded to lower income class in retirement due to health insurance costs and social security drying up.
It's actually a little sad, but at the same time "consequences of my actions" so it is what it is. Welcome to the world everyone else is living in.
Something I learned from my experience living in the city is that the dregs of the concrete hive have a keen eye for singling out people who don't live downtown from the masses of those that do. Downtown whitey is jaded to the point that he doesn't respond to strangers and he has his head on a swivel at all times, not an ideal target to manipulate or victimize. Whitey from the suburbs doesn't pay attention and is far more likely to both listen to your sob story and fall for it, the perfect target to manipulate and/or victimize. My first six months in the city I got harassed by bums and niggers a lot because they could smell fresh meat, but after going through the gauntlet and becoming hardened to all the concrete hive's bullshit I was bothered very little.
@Hoss@Morghur@skylar@cjd@WhitestTemplar@sun Thats actually true. Lol bums don't really harass me much anymore and if they do I just look them dead in the eye and say "no". lol
Its just so insuferable to be trying to get gas and have some smelly dude wonder over to you and try to get money like fuck off bro, i'm poor too.
Only panhandler I ever gave change when I lived downtown was this dude in a wheelchair by the train station who was missing both his legs and one hand. I mean fuck, dude, if he went to spend that shit on booze I wouldn't blame him.
When i was in college they really pushed that "it's to prevent people from falling through the cracks in society and joining extremist ideologies".
At this point welfare is more about people mooching money. There is a case for maintaining gibs but particularly in the US, it's becoming a tool for people too useless to take care of themselves to keep on being a nuisance
True. By the time Occupy was disintegrating i was already orbiting the right wing and when i saw what happened i kinda rolled my eyes. The signs were there and when it finally happened it didn't even surprised me that the movement tore itself apart while the culprits fucked off. A right and proper hustle that pissed me off a lot but then again... The left begun to look not for capabilities but by ticking boxes on the retard form.
In the later years it came also the surprising realization that being on the right is the current counter culture. How the left became the browbeating retards wanting to brainwash you into their fake and gay beliefs like the browbeating rightoids did it before.
Here in Spain they implemented a system to unemployment benefits. Essentially you cannot mooch benefits until they run out but now you need to actively look for work and they will do interviews and follow up with you. If you reject a job offer that takes you, unemployment is rescinded
@Morghur@bronze@cjd@skylar@WhitestTemplar@Hoss@sun To get disability you have the burden of proving you cannot work. To get unemployment you must try to find work. Welfare seems anybody gets it as long as they won't work.
@WhitestTemplar@Morghur@skylar@cjd@Hoss@sun i got called a Nazi for my phenotypes and thinking I was way more teutonic than I am, then I read a book about the Hitlerjungend, and the rest is history
@Morghur@skylar@cjd@WhitestTemplar@Hoss@gin-nigr@sun latter and I'm not really brown? well unless i tan i guess, also i just read what niggas on the right post here and it makes more sense to me than what niggas on the left post. both make sense but thr rw does make sense more often