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   dick flattening enthusiast (dickflatteningenthusiast@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 14-Jun-2025 13:43:53 JST dick flattening enthusiast
   I have never seen the media so divided on Israel as it is right now. The usual shabbos culprits like Fox News are calling it a "pre-emptive strike", but there's a multitude of headlines using the phrase "unprovoked attack", which is very far removed from the usual apologetic language these outlets use when they sweep up for Israel.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 14-Jun-2025 13:43:52 JST pistolero

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     @dickflatteningenthusiast It only makes no sense to you if you think that this has anything to do with Israel.
     
     Obama signed the deal with Iran, Israel/Egypt/SA hated the deal. Israel said that Iran's never getting a nuke, Egypt and Saudi Arabia agreed (for domestic reasons, somewhat less vocally).
     
     US pumps Israel. Russia pumps, depending on who it's useful to pump, Iran, Syria, or Turkey, playing the three off each other.
     
     Neolibs *hate* Russia. Letting Iran become the regional hegemon fucks up Russia's strategy. Fox is neolibs. Happy Pride Month.
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 14-Jun-2025 21:04:44 JST Judge Dread

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     @p Russia is hated by jews because Russia used to have a lot of jews. The way it works is jews are allowed into a country, abuse the locals, so the authorities try to control the jews. Eventually someone gets fed up and the jews are driven out. In Russia's case they had a really bad jew problem due to conquering areas with too many jews. So when it came to a head the jews were big mad, fled to the US and regrouped, and funded communism to get revenge. Which worked pretty well until an even bigger murderer, Stalin, took over and started purging them.
     
     Eventually the US jews figured this out, switched sides, and created conservativism and beat the USSR through economic warfare and propaganda, at which point the jew oligarchs looted the corpse.
     
     Putin is hated because he, with jews so thin on the ground, for the first time in almost a century managed to create a non-jewed government.
     
     The real solution is to wipe out the jews everywhere.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 04:25:14 JST pistolero

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     > used to
     
     Still does, last I heard.
     
     > fled to the US and regrouped, and funded communism to get revenge.
     
     Well, this is interesting but contradicts some of Rockefeller's remarks. I think, you know, if you treat it like a communism-vs.-whatever problem rather than "top-down, planned, orderly societies appeal to people that believe they can control the top" problem, you miss that. Mussolini was already on the "USSR isn't real socialism" meme, in those exact words (though it was in Italian): he said it was better described as "Russian state capitalism". That's the essence of communist societies: they are run top-down, like a business that you can't resign from, and it's the same with any totalitarian system. It appeals to them for really obvious reasons. The end goal is control. A magical being comes down from the sky or out of a bottle you've rubbed and tells you that you have been given absolute authority over a country, and you don't ask "Are they communist or capitalist?" any more than you would care about the color scheme of the flag or any of the other branding. It's just control.
     
     "There will soon come an armed contest between capital and labor. They will oppose each other, not with words and arguments, but with shot and shell, gun-powder and cannon. The better classes are tired of the insane howling of the lower strata and they mean to stop them." :wtsherman:
     
     > Putin is hated because
     
     You should read Kissinger's book.
     
     Anyway, Putin's corrupt as hell and has still managed to make the most stable government they've had in a while. I mean, look at Chechnya: nobody managed to handle that, he managed it. He's also kept up the Soviet strategy in the Middle East and continues to undermine the petrodollar. And he did all of the things he did while counter-signaling all of the key facets of the neolib agenda, and that's one of the main issues: the propaganda is central, it's been the core facet of the entire strategy for a hundred years. Denying the propaganda with a large enough microphone is reason enough for the propaganda to target him; look at Khaddafi, look at Ron Paul, the press is unkind to people that don't respect the press (or the CIA :nixonmad:). But they can't paint Putin as a backwoods idiot, so they have to make him Hitler.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 05:35:21 JST pistolero

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     @Simpadoo @judgedread
     
     > Communism is not the same as fascism: the communist’s untenable position
     
     You're talking philosophy, I'm talking practical terms. If your actual philosophy is Malthusian nihilism, then the ideology for your control over society is just a matter of branding: it doesn't make a difference what people have been sold on as long as they are sold.
     
     > They may both be autocratic but fascism still allows for private business and the state is only involved to ensure it is working for the good of the faction.
     
     Hitler's micromanaged paperwork economy disagrees.
     
     > Fascism would last forever if outside powers would not interfere with internal politics.
     
     Any ideology can make this claim.
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     Going Red (simpadoo@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 05:35:22 JST Going Red

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     @p @judgedread Communism is not the same as fascism: the communist’s untenable position is that everything comes from the material, which is why it’s forbidden to be a communist and a catholic (Bergoglio not withstanding).
     
     They may both be autocratic but fascism still allows for private business and the state is only involved to ensure it is working for the good of the faction. Communism is financial full retard and has no efficiencies that can sustain it.
     
     Fascism would last forever if outside powers would not interfere with internal politics.
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 07:51:36 JST Judge Dread

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     @p The proof that Hitler's economy, at least prewar, was not micromanaged is that it was prosperous.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 07:52:26 JST pistolero

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     @judgedread It had as much red tape as before.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 07:56:53 JST pistolero

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     > Rockefeller wanted an Aryan eugenics based society.
     
     Rockefeller wanted what Rothschild wanted, he just wanted it for himself, and he got it; the social goals were secondary. In terms of society, he wanted and got a society controlled by the banks. You can see his remarks about how dumb Stalin was when he was setting up the UN, the World Bank, the IMF, etc.
     
     > Instead we have limitless nigger rights and niggers.
     
     You confuse the goal with the tactics. You're worried about the Civil Rights Act and not about the IMF, because the tactics worked.
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 07:56:54 JST Judge Dread

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     @p Rockefeller wanted an Aryan eugenics based society.
     
     If he and his faction had power we'd have that.
     
     Instead we have limitless nigger rights and niggers.
     
     So the Alex Jones blame the WASPs theory is weak.
     
     The 'jews in control' theory explains it all.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 08:00:18 JST pistolero

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     > it's not enough to grind them to a halt.
     
     It's a gatekeeping mechanism, just like Rockefeller and Carnegie and Rothschild and every one of these dicks throughout history wanted, because it doesn't halt businesses inside the gate (and provides unlimited white-collar wage-slavery) but it does keep upstarts from getting anywhere.
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 08:00:19 JST Judge Dread

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     @p Germans have a lot of bureaucracy, but in any system other than communism it's not enough to grind them to a halt.
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 08:33:15 JST Judge Dread

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     @p I'm worried about the extinction of the White race.
     
     You favor it because if it ends you get deported.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 08:33:15 JST pistolero

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     > I'm worried about the extinction of the White race.
     
     I don't think it's going to happen, but if you are, then I recommend lying to some Catholic girls about your intention to pull out, or going full-Genghis if you think it's really that dire.
     
     > You favor it because if it ends you get deported.
     
     Every ideology mentioned so far would have me shot for one reason or another, but ideology is downstream from power. "What ideology is popular enough to control this population?" is the question psychopaths care about, because they care about acquiring power. They do not care about communism, capitalism, the white race, any of it, and all of the ideological bickering completely fails to account for that kind of person being exactly the kind of person that gets his hands on the lever, and while that kind of person exists, the person that is willing to fly any flag that gets him where he wants to go, ideologies that include building a population-level lever are misguided. The bad news is that that amoral psychopaths will always exist, and unless you succeed in dumbing down the population or curing psychopathy, you will continue having a problem with the really damaging intersection of amoral psychopathy and high intelligence. Welcome to the only game that has mattered since Lee DeForest set up shop: you're in it whether you want it or not.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 08:41:02 JST pistolero

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     @Simpadoo @judgedread
     
     > Philosophy eventually translates into reality.
     
     If a man is both honest and thoughtful, sure. But you confuse the professed ideology of someone that only cares about power with actual philosophy.
     
     > The Church saw early on and condemned it for that reason.
     
     It is probably worth noting that any organization is likely to condemn a thing that promises to end its grip on whatever power it has.
     
     But if we take it at face value, the same organization condemned the printing press. Their endorsement isn't particularly meaningful from my perspective.
     
     > To reduce it to a mere changing of shirts because they may both be authoritarian is disingenuous at best.
     
     I don't have a lot of patience for being called a liar today.
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     Going Red (simpadoo@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 08:41:04 JST Going Red

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     @p @judgedread Philosophy eventually translates into reality. It’s just that a lot of it doesn’t have a good foundation and the only reason China avoided it is because they embraced national socialism (they don’t call it that but that’s what it is).
     
     Philosophy tells you that ignoring human nature and the things that aren’t material is a surefire way to fail and to cause much harm to all elements of the body politic. The Church saw early on and condemned it for that reason.
     
     Because they go against nature, totalitarian is the only way for a communist regime to go. In contrast, fascist regimes are immensely popular. One is not the same as the other. To reduce it to a mere changing of shirts because they may both be authoritarian is disingenuous at best.
     
     All fascists had to be forcibly defeated by military force but communism has the distinction of historical, self-caused failure so yes, anybody can make the claim but you can’t just ignore this reality but communists do suck. What was the last commie regime that the UN said “OK, that’s enough buddy, you’re too oppressive so we will have to change your regime”?Yet they did this for South Africa, Rhodesia, Germany, Japan, etc. Spain had a fascist regime and only ended when their cuck king decided to end it. Only people bitching about it were the nun-raping communists but, like in most countries, they usually owned the media and so the idiot Spanish king pulled down his shorts and just let it happen.
     
     Hitler’s policies were successful until he started running out of land. I don’t believe that micromanaging was a thing with that regime, judging by the many innovations that came about when they got ostracized by jeworld. Yes, Germans like order and authority but you can’t have a complete dictatorial regime and have innovations. This is also a bad argument.
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 08:42:23 JST Judge Dread

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     @p Nepotism is awesome. I wish Whites would kick all Asians out and give me a no-work gig.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 08:49:37 JST pistolero

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     > All anti-White vermin lie and say the solution is hyper-natalism.
     
     Of *course* making babies has nothing to do with the preservation of anyone's lineage.
     
     > leave none alive in the realms of men.
     
     I think getting laid is easier than doing genocide. It's sure as hell more fun.
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 08:49:38 JST Judge Dread

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     @p All anti-White vermin lie and say the solution is hyper-natalism.
     
     Wrong. Africa can produce niggers faster than Whites can produce humans and kikes can import all brown vermin even faster. The only way to defeat the reserve army of brown turds is force. Kill any that invade as a lesson to the rest, drive them out, slay them, crucify them, leave none alive in the realms of men.
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     ins0mniak (ins0mniak@mikoshidata.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 08:49:43 JST ins0mniak

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     @p @judgedread There's tanks driving down the street right now.
     
     Idk about much of anything other than these fuckin tanks.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 08:49:53 JST pistolero

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     @ins0mniak @judgedread Big parade today.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 08:58:20 JST pistolero

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     > Tough shit. You make excuses for the kikes and run cover for the brown invasion.
     
     "If you're not with us, you're with the terr'ists." --teh w
     
     You've got tunnel-vision, so you think "No, I don't hate immigration" as being the same as "I fully endorse the current race-based quota system and see nothing wrong with the deals mayors make with the state to drop 20,000 Haitians in a town with a population of 40,000 people."
     
     You kill the banks and these policies go away. You don't have to agree, but since most of the people operating the banks fit your criteria, we could just start with that and then you'd have me in the adjacent foxhole instead of in the one in the opposite side of the trench.
     
     > This is why high IQ non-Whites should be priority deportation targets.
     
     I can't be stopped, so good luck.
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 08:58:21 JST Judge Dread

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     @p Tough shit. You make excuses for the kikes and run cover for the brown invasion.
     
     This is why high IQ non-Whites should be priority deportation targets.
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     ins0mniak (ins0mniak@mikoshidata.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 09:03:08 JST ins0mniak

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     @p @judgedread I dipped early because of the rain but it was pretty cool.
     
     Granted those drones are gonna kill me once they gain sentience but for now it was cool
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 09:23:15 JST pistolero

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     @Simpadoo @judgedread
     
     > disingenuous
     
     Someone is trying to push buttons; that's an indicator of a disingenuous argument. I wonder what's actually motivating you right now.
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     Going Red (simpadoo@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 09:23:16 JST Going Red

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     @p @judgedread Philosophy is the study f reality using the mind as a tool. Philosophy, when done properly usually indicates when something won’t work and in this case, it doesn’t, not because it’s authoritarian but because it is against the nature of humanity and as such doomed to fail.
     
     Also, the Church did not condemn the printing press: it just warned about its being abused. Another disingenuous argument, you must do better.
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     StarProphet (PBUH) (starprophet@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 09:25:39 JST StarProphet (PBUH)

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     @Simpadoo "Their IQ is also not as high with the Chinese and so, they created their one child policy that has probably doomed them to mediocrity going forward. They failed to recognize that their edge was endless population and fell for the anti-natalist Malthusian hubris. Similar to South Korea that also killed their demographic future although this was a feminism-state propaganda deal, not forced like China." Of all the three great human empires (America, Russia, and China), China has the most direct path to ending women's rights, and restoring birthrates. By simply issuing an edict from Xi Jinping and the CCP Standing Committee. But National Socialism simps for women, that includes Chinese National Socialism. And if you don't believe it, note that the NJP was simping for women and pedestalizing women while it infested fedi. With many of the former NJP simps still collaborating to ban anyone who posts the truth about women on fedi. However, the Chinese have proven themselves to be a pragmatic people. They dumped judeo-bolshevik socialism for National Socialism, when the classical communist economics didn't work. So they will probably dump women's rights by re-introducing Confucian norms into "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics." @p
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     Going Red (simpadoo@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 09:25:41 JST Going Red

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     @StarProphet @p Agree but China isn’t Germany and while Germans create stuff everybody wants due to innovation and Quality, China steals technology, applies its advantages to make it cheaper. The Natsoc model works in both countries but with different mechanisms.
     
     Their IQ is also not as high with the Chinese and so, they created their one child policy that has probably doomed them to mediocrity going forward. They failed to recognize that their edge was endless population and fell for the anti-natalist Malthusian hubris. Similar to South Korea that also killed their demographic future although this was a feminism-state propaganda deal, not forced like China.
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     @Simpadoo "They may both be autocratic but fascism still allows for private business and the state is only involved to ensure it is working for the good of the faction. Communism is financial full retard and has no efficiencies that can sustain it." Interestingly enough, the People's Republic of China is the most successful implementation of National Socialism and Fascism ("Socialism with Chinese Characteristics"). Private businesses can independently thrive in Xi Jinping's China, as long as the economic prosperity is for the good of the Chinese people. @p
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     @judgedread I'm not worried.
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 15:10:54 JST Judge Dread

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     @p You might make it past the first screening if you're a Keanu hapa.
     
     But DNA testing tells all.
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 16:09:37 JST Judge Dread

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     @p Only because for now the kikes are still winning.
     
     You'll be very worried if neo-Hitler comes to power.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 16:09:37 JST pistolero

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     @judgedread He'd get you before he got me.
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     @p That depends whether I was on his staff.
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     @judgedread You know why Che couldn't stick around Cuba, right?
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     @p If the God Emperor requires my life it is his.
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     @judgedread You're gonna be EXTREMELY CHAGRINED if I become the god-emperor.
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     @p The application said, 'experienced killer' not 'experienced coder.'
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     @judgedread I am old and I have lived plenty of years in Appalachia. Real hillbillies are very different from the heated-seats-and-confederate-flag-bumper-sticker-Ford small-town rednecks that would starve to death if they lost their Sam's Club membership card. My profession is what fills out my resume, not the entirety of my skillset.
     
     My first act as god-emperor will be women are brought to me, and my second will be that the borders only apply to men. No one is afraid of the praetorians when they all have three wives.
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 06:13:55 JST Judge Dread

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     @p What is the size of your army?
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     @judgedread You don't raise one before war were declared. Anyone that expects that war might were declared is probably focusing on resilient communications channels if they've got any kind of head on their shoulders.
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     di0nysius the patomskyite (dsm@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 06:50:18 JST di0nysius the patomskyite

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     @judgedread @p
     
     Lmfao.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 09:19:06 JST pistolero

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     @judgedread A sperg's profession; people that are merely introverted use the computer to consoom.
     
     Guessing isn't your strength: I'm socially terrible and I hate crowds, but I'm not introverted.
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     @p Said the guy with no army.
     
     You're in an introvert's profession.
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     @judgedread @p bro you are a FAGGOT holy shit lmao
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jun-2025 08:46:28 JST pistolero

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     @judgedread It's not an election.
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jun-2025 08:46:29 JST Judge Dread

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     @p You have never been in the military.
     
     Caesar and Hitler were.
     
     You've never been a bank robber. Stalin was.
     
     Next!
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     @judgedread Both of them were elected, actually, just not by popular vote.
     
     But that's my point: whoever is to be god-emperor does not need your approval or to pass any artificial benchmarks.
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jun-2025 10:01:20 JST Judge Dread

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     @p Caesar and Stalin weren't elected.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jun-2025 15:11:25 JST pistolero

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     @judgedread Not much of a god or an emperor.
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     @p The currents of memetic space lead to a Hitler or a Stalin.
     
     I'm working for Hitler.
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     @judgedread
     
     > Oh, and I see how you are evading the point
     
     I'm not, but I don't feel the need to spill my bona fides. The point I made was that you will be EXTREMELY CHAGRINED if we get a god-emperor and it turns out to be me. (The later point, that a god-emperor doesn't need your permission or to tick any of your boxes in order to become god-emperor also still stands.) Your inability to consider the possibility only serves to deepen the potential for EXTREME CHAGRIN.
     
     > You lack all required attributes.
     
     You assume incorrectly. I don't know what's on your list (robbing banks, apparently) but I do know that if there were a black swan that fit your expectations, it wouldn't be a black swan.
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     @p Oh, and I see how you are evading the point that you are never going to be any sort of leader in the world of violence AKA politics.
     
     You lack all required attributes.
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     @p Hitler belongs on the list of the ten greatest men who ever lived.
     
     Recall that Caesar also ended badly. As did Napoleon.
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     > Hitler belongs on the list of the ten greatest men who ever lived.
     
     All of these years and I have not heard anything that improved my assessment of the man. (That is, he was a one-balled dingus that flamed out after failing at all of his goals and is now propped up by corpse-humping fanboys that want to constantly relitigate his career. The only thing he did right was ignore Versailles.)
     
     If I didn't know better, I'd say that you were trying to bait me.
     
     > Recall that Caesar also ended badly. As did Napoleon.
     
     Napoleon did it *twice*, and didn't kill himself. Both Caesar's bastard son with Cleopatra and his adopted son ended up emperors as well, something that even Napoleon didn't manage.
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     > It's a retarded point.
     
     The all-caps and combination of the generic intensifier "extremely" with a deliberately understated "chagrined" should have indicated that it was a joke. (Regardless of it being a joke or not, it is true: you will still be extremely chagrined if I end up as god-emperor.)
     
     > No one discussing politics on fedi will become god emperor,
     
     We won't have a god-emperor. It is stupid to shoot at Trump; it is not stupid to stab Caesar.
     
     > The man with the skills to become warlord knows not to risk discussing politics on a heavily monitored network with the panopticon on high alert to nip warlords in the bud.
     
     The circumstances that lead to warlords' existence in this country preclude the panopticon mattering. Hitler, your favorite dude, did time for the Putsch. Castro, nobody's favorite dude (but much more successful than Hitler and survived multiple attempts by the CIA to kill him), did time in the literal panopticon in Cuba. These people wrote and spoke at length about their vision for the future, all of the dictators. If we do get someone analogous, he's not going to get popular support here probably, but he will probably be waggling his charisma on other, even more heavily monitored channels.
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     @p It's a retarded point. No one discussing politics on fedi will become god emperor, and I doubt any will even become a warlord. The man with the skills to become warlord knows not to risk discussing politics on a heavily monitored network with the panopticon on high alert to nip warlords in the bud.
     
     I have spoken.
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     Hitler is in fact two things, he's some rando that was propped up by the Americans to sack Europe so that they could have their hegemony, and he's also The Great Satan in The Church of Boomer.
     
     To the Boomer, 1000 Stalins and 1000 Pol Pots can never compare, because Hitler is infinitely evil, and you cannot meaningfully compare anything else with infinity.
     
     Hitler Appreciators are kind of like The Church of Satan. They have no belief system of their own, they just adopted The Church of Boomer, but inverted. If you tell them that Hitler is a terrible choice of hero, they'll accuse you of paying undeserved respect to The Church of Boomer - which you can never really prove you're not.
     
     The short of it is, The Establishment is aware of reverse psychology. They know that if they vilify someone, those who dislike them may read that person's work. So the great anti-establishment heroes will never show up in their history books, favorably or otherwise.
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     > Hitler Appreciators are kind of like The Church of Satan. They have no belief system of their own, they just adopted The Church of Boomer, but inverted.
     
     This is a good way of putting it.
     
     > they'll accuse you of paying undeserved respect to The Church of Boomer - which you can never really prove you're not.
     
     Or of being paid by the IDF, or of being a secret Jew, or any number of ad hominems or accusations about your motivations; anything that doesn't require them to address the substance of what you've said.
     
     > They know that if they vilify someone, those who dislike them may read that person's work.
     
     They will, in fact, exploit it; this is letting them choose the battlefield, so everyone is arguing about Hitler (who, being dead, is not worth arguing over, as he can no longer do anything) instead of arguing about or even noticing the IMF.
     
     Here is an interesting PDF.
     
     > So the great anti-establishment heroes will never show up in their history books, favorably or otherwise.
     
     And neither will the people the establishment actually relies on. They never address Larry Fink, but Klaus Schwab and his imp Harari are used as disposable faces for the sake of setting the agenda.
     McCombsShaw1972--agenda_setting.pdf
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     @cjd @p @judgedread They vilified Unabomber, they vilified Luigi, so uhh not sure they actually learned the lesson

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     @cjd @p OK, your opening sentence is super retarded and you don't follow me.
     
     Bye!
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     So the thing is, if you make enough trouble they can't just pretend you don't exist.
     
     But people like Augusto Pinochet, Francisco Franco, or Jefferson Davis are decidedly NOT areas of focus amongst historians, they just want to talk about Hitler.
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     Franco Fans > Hitler Appreciaters. 😏
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     @cjd @nobody Well, you do see a lot about Jefferson Davis in the history books. History is, nowadays, preachy and over-simplified, starting during the Cold War and all the FDR and successors cramming the public school system.
     
     My grandfather, in a very poor and rural high school, learned Latin, because the school taught Latin, and got a chunk of his history by reading Marcus Aurelius. (He says that he and his friends had made a list of words they couldn't find in the school's dictionary and went to visit the college library to look them up; the words all turned out to be curses.)
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     @p I have no interest in indulging your desire to argue about novelty takes.
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     @judgedread You talk, I respond; have it your way, I'm really not interested in the weekly relitigation of WW2.
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     He also had better food, music, and women. 😏
     
     And yes, he was impressively the only WWII "fascist" to survive, and for a long time... he was prime minister until 1973.
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     Franco left behind a functioning country that he was able to hand off, no matter how charitable you want be to Hitler, Franco was *objectively* better at it.
     
     But when you start hearing the sing-song about how Hitler was so good, the world attacked him, he woulda made Germany great if only he coulda.... You realize that you're talking to somebody who is entrained into the process of getting the L, and then justifying it to themselves.
     
     You know what they say, there's two kinds of people in the world, there's the winner and there's the other guy...
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     It also kinda interesting how he passed a law declaring Spain a monarchy, but only transfered power at his death. Kind of honorable in a way. Like a temporary king who wasn't a royal, but beat the previous kings deposers and claimed his crown, only to later return it to the rightful heirs.
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     Franco must have felt that a "king in parliament" was a better long term protection against communists than a pure republic, because a king would general not eliminate the monarchy, which is nearly always required, if not absolutely required, under communism.
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     I can kind of see the benefit of leaving the country to a historical royal family because they already know all of the major stakeholders in the country. But, people born with a silver spoon are always more weak than someone who climbed to the top on their own, so it's not what I'd call ideal. But democracies are crap too so whatchya gonna do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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     That's a really good point.
     In the carpentry of statecraft, communists are the termites.
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     @cjd @Humpleupagus Franco did win his war and did manage to stay out of WW2; probably a lower body count than even Vichy France. A dictator isn't a pleasant thing but as far as dictators go, it's pretty close to the best-case scenario. Looks like he got pushed into the fuckin' thing, too:
     
     > On the brink of bankruptcy, a combination of pressure from the United States and the IMF managed to convince the regime to adopt a free market economy.
     fights_one_war.jpg
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     Interesting point re Fink. I wouldn't say he's The Power, but he's pretty damned important being the operator of their post-2008 Cybersyn command economy thingy.
     
     If they were to politicize him, the plebs would start asking why after electing /ourguy/ he's still hanging out in the whitehouse.
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     @cjd He's politicized already, isn't he? He's the ESG guy. He's just not a known guy, nobody knows who he is, aside from members of The Cancelled.
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     @Humpleupagus @cjd He seems to have set up shop before fascism got popular and to not have been too fascist.
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     Davis wrote a book called The Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government, and apparently that is practically unknown, even to people who study him.
     
     Perhaps even more significant than that is The Bank Wars, which pretty much nobody wants to talk about...
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     @cjd @nobody
     
     > Davis wrote a book called The Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government, and apparently that is practically unknown, even to people who study him.
     
     Oh, I've heard of the book. A lot of people in the South like his version of events; as for the cause of the war, Judah P. Benjamin's speech in the Senate was a competent case, I think. Lately, for PR reasons, they have attempted to adopt a vaguely libertarian-ish approach to the rhetoric, but the history doesn't match. At the time, the South worked (and at a social level, it still works this way) like an old-timey French aristocracy. The names on the mailboxes seem to indicate the reason for this.
     
     I'll defer to General William T. Sherman, in his (excellent) letter to the mayor of Atlanta: "If the United States submits to a Division now it will not stop, but will go on until we reap the fate of Mexico, which is Eternal War."
     
     > Perhaps even more significant than that is The Bank Wars, which pretty much nobody wants to talk about...
     
     I'd be pleased to talk about this book, which I have never heard of, as far as I remember.
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     Re The Bank Wars, no great book that I know of, just the historical topic of central bank vs. no central bank, Hamilton, abolition of the 1st central bank, war of 1812, 2nd central bank, Jackson, free banking era, then eventually Federal Reserve era. Not in "official" history books.
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     @cjd @nobody Ah, you were talking about the topic in general rather than a book by that name. Okay, yes.
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     Thanks for the picture, I was looking for that earlier.
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     Our schools often teach that nationalism, militarism, and xenophobia were the drivers to fascism, when it was actually communism. Without the communist movement, Franco and other fascist leaders would never have attained power. He was a reactionary leader. I assume he kept power not out of some desire to rule with an iron fist, but to be what he viewed as Spain's protector and to put enough time between the revolution and returning the crown to the monarchy so as to put the communists in the past. Most would be dead when he was dead. There is something romantic about it in the literary sense. There's also something very Spanish about it too — it's spanish pragmatism, not german idealism.
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     @Humpleupagus @cjd
     
     > There is something romantic about it in the literary sense.
     
     Actual driver of fascism: d'Annunzio, the creator of fascism, complained that democracy lacked a romantic arc.
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     The Italians are very passionate people. You can tell by how they can hold a minor grudge for life. 😏
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