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   HebrideanHecate (hebrideanhecate@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 18:52:25 JST HebrideanHecate

   https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr78kmxdyryo

   Colleges are facing increasing problems with behaviour, with male learners on courses such as construction among the worst offenders, according to a report by education inspectors.

   While many students showed positive behaviour, Estyn found patterns varied across different types of students and courses in further education colleges. It said male students "particularly those on vocational trade courses like construction" were more likely to display negative behaviours. "These include the use of inappropriate language towards female learners, often driven by an effort to fit in or assert dominance in predominantly male environments," the report said.

   It said influences from controversial social media figures "were particularly evident in male-dominated courses, where inappropriate behaviours towards female learners occurred".

   Poor behaviour was also more apparent in younger students and those enrolled on lower-level courses.

   Another factor which sometimes influenced behaviour was the design of college buildings, inspectors reported.

   Problems identified by staff and students included poor punctuality and non-attendance, misusing mobile phones by recording and sharing content during class and vaping or smoking in or near college buildings.

   The report said "although serious issues like sexual harassment and substance misuse are less frequent, they remain a concern".

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     KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 18:52:48 JST KeepTakingTheSoma

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     @HebrideanHecate Education across the board is fucked.
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     HebrideanHecate (hebrideanhecate@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 20:14:28 JST HebrideanHecate

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     @KeepTakingTheSoma It really is 🤦 I know I keep saying it but the lack of vocabulary is just making my eyes pop, almost every day he tells me a new word that his 6th years don't know, and they are not unusual words at all.

     The 1st years are more and more immature every year, more batshit too, no impulse control whatsoever, they giggle and talk all through, they cannot sit at peace, they burst out singing or gobbing off in the middle of lessons, they cannot apply themselves. He says it is like a class of lower primary kids. Blimey, even when I was in that myself nobody was behaving like that at all, not even the ones who it turned out did have a bit of a problem going on.

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     @HebrideanHecate @KeepTakingTheSoma Same thing here. The behaviour is appalling and some of them want their work pre-evaluated. They will do part of it, then want it checked so they can hand in a corrected copy. One of my worst offenders for this will chat with her friends during lessons and then come to me to basically give her the answers. Many of them also can't spell for shit and the handwriting is near illegible.
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     KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 20:15:36 JST KeepTakingTheSoma

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     @HebrideanHecate We have told children that they are not responsible for their actions and that grown-ups must do everything for them.
     What did we think would be the result of this?
     We get more of the behaviour we reward.
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     @Fullycaffeinated @HebrideanHecate Back when I was teacher training and getting going (late 80s/early9 90s) there was a move towards perfect books, everything correct, high scores etc, even if it took multiple takes to achieve. No process of learning, prizes for all.
     I have been asked to fudge data, improve children's work, do stuff for them to make it look good; the list goes on. I have been told to spoon-feed children who cry if they can't do anything, rather than build lasting skills and a sense of achievement. I have been criticised for trying to get children to make personal improvements.
     We have created a cohort that are too frail to fail. They are all identity and no substance. Their feelings trump reality. I feel sorry for them, but they were created by grown-ups who should have known better.
     I'm so glad I'm out of teaching. I should have left sooner.
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     HebrideanHecate (hebrideanhecate@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 20:29:47 JST HebrideanHecate

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     @KeepTakingTheSoma @Fullycaffeinated It's utterly ridiculous and shameful.

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     HebrideanHecate (hebrideanhecate@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 20:30:05 JST HebrideanHecate

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     @Fullycaffeinated @KeepTakingTheSoma Telling you, the buggers need drowned in a bucket!

     He says the rise, colossal rise, in scribes, voice and extra time come exams is ridiculous, some of them genuinely need it but he says the rest is parental push at it, that do anything for an advantage and again, kids are not paying proper attention in class in the first place. They barely have enough staff to do cover for the amount wanted now.

     Just back from shop and there were tourists in with kids, something else I notice with a lot of children now is the unpleasant voice. I don't mean just that kids can be noisy and high pitched and all that kind of thing, but a sort of constant whining, dragged out all the time form of speaking, very strange and super irritating.

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     KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 20:38:18 JST KeepTakingTheSoma

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     @HebrideanHecate @Fullycaffeinated When everybody is special, then nobody is special.
     
     I had this debate with a friend the other day when she was berating the lack of special provision in scribing in further and higher education. My take was that if you've got that far and still need an adult to scribe for you, perhaps it's not the right place for you.
     Children with dyslexia and disabilities who are bright enough to go into further and higher education will have also been smart enough to figure out the means of using technology to aid them. This can be accommodated at most colleges without the vast *support* infrastructure that just devolves into the *I want help because I'm special too* circus.
     
     People with real and profound disabilities (which in my opinion are the only cohort that need support) are losing out to the (mostly) self-diagnosed toddlers with special feelings.
     
     We need to stop telling children that adulthood is just a continuation of childhood where other adults can be bullied into moving heaven and earth for their needs because they demand it.
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     HebrideanHecate (hebrideanhecate@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 20:39:25 JST HebrideanHecate

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     @Fullycaffeinated @KeepTakingTheSoma Not sure if you saw it when I mentioned it the other day that a new thing, this is both sexes of kids to both sexes of teachers, in schools is if they get ticked off etc you better not say that to me, or I will tell them that you sexually assaulted me. Hence the female teachers here checking the girls lavs in pairs.

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     Caffosaurus☕?:mayo: (fullycaffeinated@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 20:39:28 JST Caffosaurus☕?:mayo:

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     @HebrideanHecate @KeepTakingTheSoma Yeah, I saw that. We've given kids far more power than they are equipped for.
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     @Fullycaffeinated @KeepTakingTheSoma Very dangerous, the way things are going re stinking behaviour my friend said soon there will be no teachers, nurses, police or fire brigade, due to a demented, vile and dangerous Joe Public.

     FFS, so many of them now are completely feral, where the hell are their parents.

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     KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 20:39:47 JST KeepTakingTheSoma

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     @Fullycaffeinated @HebrideanHecate We reap what we sow.
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     @HebrideanHecate @Fullycaffeinated I wonder if this is deliberate. An uneducated population is easier to control.
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     KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 20:44:42 JST KeepTakingTheSoma

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     @Fullycaffeinated @HebrideanHecate Kids are being taught very bad lessons.
     
     Bad behaviour is rewarded with more attention.
     Accusing your teacher of *insert -ism/-phobia here* gets the teacher in trouble and gives you power.
     Not learning because of *structural/whatever* allows you to do fuck all with impunity.
     
     Getting on gives you the least amount of attention and kudos.
     Trying to work and learn probably makes you part of the *oppressor class*
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     HebrideanHecate (hebrideanhecate@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 20:45:33 JST HebrideanHecate

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     @KeepTakingTheSoma Exactly! Just atrocious.

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     @HebrideanHecate @KeepTakingTheSoma We actually had a conversation about this yesterday in the lunch room. We have a handful of girls who are chronically absent. they show up when they get close to meeting the threshold for the school to contact authorities. They come in for a few days and then start up again. In one case, the dad (mom doesn't seem to be around) doesn't check his emails (one is automatically sent when an absence is registered) and only reacts when the principal calls him. He leaves for work before his daughters leave for school and doesn't make sure that they do. The others seem to have given up or don't seem too concerned. It's fucking baffling.
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     KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 20:58:09 JST KeepTakingTheSoma

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     @Fullycaffeinated @HebrideanHecate I worked with a few families with poor attendance, and a lot of it stems from them being too self-absorbed to engage.
     I had the usual assortment of Friday and Monday are the weekend, too drunk, too stoned, too tired to get up in the morning, too selfish to consider anyone else.
     Some are cowed by their own children.
     I worked with a single mum whose twin girls played her up about getting ready for school, and she felt afraid to get cross with them. The school was no help because they wouldn't support her to assert back control (but I did).
     I also worked with a single dad whose children used the threat of social services over him (little shits) and made him late every morning. The school was a great help here and we cracked that one in no time at all.
     There are also specialist cases such as the one with a child who had a chronic and debilitating illness, which we were also able to solve very easily by using the home tuition service.
     Schools have attendance software to help with spotting patterns. We got our poor attendance dealt with in under a term by tackling each case properly.
     It can be done.
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     HebrideanHecate (hebrideanhecate@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 20:58:18 JST HebrideanHecate

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     @KeepTakingTheSoma @Fullycaffeinated That's true enough too.

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     @Fullycaffeinated @KeepTakingTheSoma That's terrible. There have been some of them at that here too, but one was I think due to bullying, female, she never went back, at all, and as far as I can gather from him was a bright girl too, it really bothers him, because what is she to do with herself, and she did not at least do anything at home. I know her mum, she's lovely, but just does not seem to grasp that it mattered 🤦The others are a couple of unpleasant boys who have a father with a terrible work attitude himself, he worked there as a support tech and was never there. Always skiving, always bitching about the place, he used every trick in the book to play the system "on the sick", while working at something else for himself when off, this went on for years, until they fucking finally got rid of him, so what example is that to them.

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     @KeepTakingTheSoma @Fullycaffeinated It makes me furiously cross, but I also find it all really quite frightening too. They seem to have no empathy either, I mean the scream and shout about oppressors all the time but they don't have empathy, not the proper kind, look at that dreadful young woman the other day, the carer, who was being abusive to elderly woman and boasting about in on social media. That shocked me, it really did, and more and more of this is happening.

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     @HebrideanHecate @Fullycaffeinated These people redefine words all the time, so redefining empathy to mean *what I tell you to be sad about* is no surprise.
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     @KeepTakingTheSoma @Fullycaffeinated Himself has appalling hand writing, due to having had two massive seizures as a toddler that damaged his spatial awareness etc, hence his leaving things like the coffee tin anywhere but where it lives and not being able to find anything by verbal description etc etc. When he went to school they assumed he was backward and left him in the sandpit until one teacher...a battleaxe from Lewis...said no, this child is capable. He is actually super academic, he got a first with hons at uni and was to do a PhD at Cambridge, they asked for him. Silly arse didn't take it up, although he doesn't regret it now seeing as unis are as they are. But he keeps saying to them look, I did it and I had problems, I completely fail a certain part of the tests we use on you when you come into secondary school, the biology teacher is dyslexic, so he won't buy it from them when they whine either. It's that they are not willing to at least try that annoys him, and their total lack of any intellectual curiosity about anything at all.

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     @HebrideanHecate @Fullycaffeinated Exactly.
     I've taught three children in my school career who have had something I might define as dyslexia; each manifested in different ways, but with help were able to continue learning without anything *special* more than adjustments that were easily manageable within the classroom.
     But I have taught many whose parents begged for a diagnosis of something that would get their children an amanuensis or support of some kind (which they didn't need) for *reasons.*
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     @KeepTakingTheSoma @Fullycaffeinated There's a lot of it about. Yet the two kids with Friedreich's Ataxia, he gets extremely upset about them, can see it starting to worsen, make all the effort they are capable of. Such a horrible condition that, poor loves. Ghastly for their parents.

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     @KeepTakingTheSoma @Fullycaffeinated This is an actual thing now, Govt has made parents terrified of even trying to discipline the buggers, if they even breath next to them its you'll get done, so they rule the roost and run riot. There was a couple in Skye a few years ago who had 2 admittedly very apologetic and embarrassed cops at the door one night because when they had been down in Dingwall to do some shopping the toddler was having a blue fit. She went off on one and started kicking her mother, her dad did a swat of her behind with a don't you ever dare do anything like that to your mother and dumped her into the car. Someone saw them and made a report to the police that he had smacked her. The cop said we have to come because it is a report but that is all we are doing, to say we stood on the step, I have kids of my own and I know, so off they went. I have heard of people saying that their kids have said to them you can't touch me, I will phone Childline, and it even having caused mayhem, child did it, got taken away, only later realised anger at time then lead to this, was devastated etc but too late, FAFO.

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     @HebrideanHecate @Fullycaffeinated I'd buy the whole *smacking children is child abuse* shtick if they cared as much about FGM, honour killings, child brides, sadistic parents etc etc.
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     @KeepTakingTheSoma @HebrideanHecate @Fullycaffeinated I’m just going to confirm this is a thing in the US too. A lot of special education funding goes towards kids whose parents want that extra bit not kids who need it. I haven’t filled for the 504 my daughter would qualify for because she doesn’t really need accommodations right now (she has ADHD and it’s genetic :blob_rave: ). We’ve also been teaching her division at home to try to keep her engaged and busy (she’s 8).
     
     I don’t want to ask for services just because she could qualify. I had services and needed them in school and dropped them as soon as I no longer needed them (dyslexic and went to college without any aid). I know friends whose kids are dyslexic as well and they’re being taught fundamentally differently than I was. I try not to be judgemental about it, but the focus seems to be teaching them to rely on programs, apps, and other tech now. None of that was a thing for me, I was taught to find ways to help myself and I still use those skills daily.
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     @KeepTakingTheSoma @Fullycaffeinated 🎯 x :1000:

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     HebrideanHecate (hebrideanhecate@spinster.xyz)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 16:43:58 JST HebrideanHecate

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     @KeepTakingTheSoma Sure, their being influenced by watching shit on the internet is a problem, in many ways, and again, are parents quite mad, but this Union walloper won't give a damn about the poison flowing from trans shit, either towards women or the dangers of child mutilation being pressed on them from it. The Unions are all up for supporting it.

     https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1mevlzgp90o

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     KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 16:45:14 JST KeepTakingTheSoma

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     @HebrideanHecate The unions stopped supporting teachers (who pay their salary) long ago. Then they stopped thinking about child protection.
     Like most unions, they only dream about bringing down a Tory government.
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     @KeepTakingTheSoma I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.

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