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   milkposter (themilkman@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 22:15:59 JST milkposter
   Pewdiepie advised a lot of people to get into Linux and Fosstards still are ungrateful for it.
   you need to understand, those people don't want some thinkpad librebooted device with fully free graphics drivers, they just want to use something easy to pick up and better, Linux is now easy to use, minimal drawbacks for a lot of people and some, just straight up none.
   to everyone their idea of linux is the practical considerations, less nagging and garbage on the screen, smoother, and more privacy are the benefits they are looking for, they couldn't really give any less of a shit about software ethics, let alone software copyright ethics.
   
   and the "Gnu/Linux" and "Free software" language police is pretty dumb too, the point of language is to convey an idea, i understand autism drives you to care about all this stuff, but you end up making people think you are stupid, because why WOULD they care about specific language, they just don't wanna get raped in the ass by MS that's all there is to it.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 22:19:26 JST SuperDicq

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     @themilkman@shitposter.world Normies using Linux on top of proprietary operating systems does not help us with anything.
     
     Android for example has made Linux into one of the most widely used kernels in the world.
     
     Has this brought us any advancements in terms of software freedom?
     
     Absolutely not, it has turned smartphones into even worse jails and spyware machines than they were before Android existed.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 22:47:08 JST 翠星石

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     @themilkman >Fosstards still are ungrateful for it.
     "FOSS"tards in fact only really care about trying to be neutral between bootlicking corporates ("open source") and the freedom of free software;
     https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html
     https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/floss-and-foss.html
     
     >those people don't want some thinkpad librebooted device
     Liebreboot is proprietary software on all ThinkPad's now, thus they certainly don't want that if they want freedom - rather they want GNUboot.
     
     >Linux is now easy to use
     The kernel, Linux is in fact quite hard to use, as it always has been, as it's SYSCALL, /sys and /proc interfaces are not great.
     
     Thanks to GNU, thankfully you don't have to worry about using Linux - glibc does all the hard work for you, with the benefit that the software runs just as well on GNU/Linux as on GNU/Hurd.
     
     >their idea of linux is the practical considerations, less nagging and garbage on the screen, smoother, and more privacy are the benefits they are looking for, they couldn't really give any less of a shit about software ethics, let alone software copyright ethics.
     Then they shouldn't use GNU/Linux, as the sole reason why GNU exists is to grant the user freedom and any proprietary program added to the system is a perversion that takes the user away from the goal.
     
     >the point of language is to convey an idea
     Indeed - referring to GNU as "Linux" conveys a totally incorrect idea as to why the system exists and its goals.
     
     >i understand autism drives you to care about all this stuff
     I was professionally diagnosed not autistic.
     
     >you end up making people think you are stupid, because why WOULD they care about specific language,
     Yes, stupid people think others are stupid without any self awareness.
     
     They would indeed start to care if it became popular to calls roses "pens", as the end result of grabbing such "pen" would be thorns stabbing you and no writing implement to speak of.
     
     Amazingly, calling GNU, "Linux" sometimes has the same result - if someone grabs a copy of the kernel, Linux - their freedom gets stabbed by the proprietary software and they don't get a OS - rather a kernel that panic()'s on boot.
     
     >they just don't wanna get graped in the ass by MS that's all there is to it.
     If you use proprietary versions of the kernel, Linux and call GNU/Linux "Linux", microsoft is indeed successfully graping you in the ass, same as a bunch of other proprietary software companies.
     
     A great example of that happening is Android - for many models, a significant fraction of the price is microsoft's tax for the software patents on FAT32.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 22:51:37 JST SuperDicq

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     @themilkman@shitposter.world neither is nagging on them to use some super esoteric setup gonna do anythingThat's not what I'm doing. I have not been nagging that PewDiePie should buy a RYF certified Thinkpad right now and throw out all of his other computers, I am ware that is a big ask. So I support the Freedom Ladder campaign where you slowly and step by step remove proprietary software from your life at your own pace.
     
     But I want people to actually pay attention to software issues and take the movement seriously (especially public figures with a large following). Or at least fucking mentioning it instead of avoiding the issue completely, which is what PewDiePie did and what I'm criticizing him for.
     
     I'm 100% certain PewDiePie knows what at least something about what the GNU project is and what the free software movement is.
     
     Nobody in the world becomes fully fledged tiling window manager ricer without having at least seen the GNU project mentioned somewhere at least.
     
     Choosing to only mention "Linus Torvalds" and "Open Source" in his video to me feels like a deliberate choice to he probably avoided free software on purpose.

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     milkposter (themilkman@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 22:51:38 JST milkposter

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     @SuperDicq >Normies using Linux on top of proprietary operating systems does not help us with anything.
     and neither is nagging on them to use some super esoteric setup gonna do anything, if they want to use the easy stuff they are gonna use the easy stuff, me personally, i just pick what works, because i recognise and work on my moral failings that are all substantially higher on the list than "using software with a restrictive license", i avoid google like the plague and remove the stuff i don't like, but i don't lose hairs about it, and neither does anybody else, i know there is some level of google nonsense i have to deal with, and it's whatever, i removed most of the problem, 80% of the problem gone with 20% of the effort.
     
     >Android for example has made Linux into one of the most widely used kernels in the world.
     
     >Has this brought us any advancements in terms of software freedom?
     
     no but it makes a mid operating system (not that i thing smartphones are an invention that brought much "pros" to my life) yeah there is proprietary parts to the whole operating system, but it is an "operating system", it doesn't need to be fully free, just mostly free as to get the benefits a person has when using free software.
     
     but the question here is, how does people start using an operating system that is more free, rather than all proprietary, harm the free software movement? it would get more support, and more people would be knowledgeable.
     
     and then the question is? is the problem here that it is harmful to free software movements? or is the problem that pewdiepie failed to properly portray free software, and the movement? thus getting people into a sort of uneducated expectation?
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 22:54:05 JST 翠星石

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     @themilkman I responded with a non-autistic post, as I was diagnosed not autistic.
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     milkposter (themilkman@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 22:54:06 JST milkposter

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     @Suiseiseki >criticise how language autism does fuck all and just starts shit
     >immedietly responds with language autism
     
     what the fuck is wrong with you man...
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 22:58:44 JST 翠星石

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     @themilkman @SuperDicq >just mostly free as to get the benefits a person has when using free software.
     Android is nowhere near close to "mostly free" - all of the software in a typical Android install is proprietary software.
     
     There is only one free version of Android, where developers have removed the proprietary software from each component and released a free version; https://replicant.us/
     
     >how does people start using an operating system that is more free, rather than all proprietary, harm the free software movement?
     If people start using an OS that is 100% proprietary and that is functionality very good at shackling the user and taking their freedom, rather than a free OS, that harms the free software movement.
     
     >is the problem that pewdiepie failed to properly portray free software, and the movement?
     Pewdiepie failed to point out that free software existed *at all* - he mentioned very few free software programs and in all cases insulted them by referring to them as "open source".
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 23:10:33 JST 翠星石

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     @iamtakingiteasy @themilkman >nothing prevents you from having non-gnu implementations in place of userspace.
     The fact that not GNU software sucks hard prevents even freedom haters from doing that a lot of the time.
     
     >from libc and compilers to shells and utils,
     Those are all vastly inferior to the superior GNU implementations.
     
     >GNU evangelism is best angled towards sustaining of the freedoms
     Freedom can only be sustained if fully free software under strong licenses are used.
     
     >linguistic autism that is no longer necessarily relevant, at least for some distros.
     There are some distros that may not be GNU, but they certainly aren't Linux either.
     
     There is Alpine BusyBox/Linux, but it sucks hard unless you install GNU.
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     Yukkuri (iamtakingiteasy@eientei.org)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 23:10:34 JST Yukkuri

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     @Suiseiseki @themilkman You are extremely autistic. It's not a bad thing, on the contrary, but it is also somewhat futile to deny. Also similarly to how you can have Hurd in place of kernel, nothing prevents you from having non-gnu implementations in place of userspace. There is everything now - from libc and compilers to shells and utils, GNU evangelism is best angled towards sustaining of the freedoms, rather than linguistic autism that is no longer necessarily relevant, at least for some distros.
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     You Get Glee (get@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Apr-2025 00:50:14 JST You Get Glee

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     @s8n @themilkman cc @Suiseiseki can you weight in on this
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     THOT POLICE (s8n@posting.lolicon.rocks)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Apr-2025 00:50:15 JST THOT POLICE

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     @themilkman "fosstards" are retards and trannies who are spazzing out because DOGE pulled their funding and RFK is taking away their estradiol. Nobody who gives a shit about free software has been associated with the major distributions or GNU or foundations like Mozilla in like ten years at least
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     THOT POLICE (s8n@posting.lolicon.rocks)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Apr-2025 00:53:25 JST THOT POLICE

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     @get @Suiseiseki @themilkman
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     milkposter (themilkman@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Apr-2025 00:53:30 JST milkposter

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     @get @Suiseiseki @s8n pleaaaaaaase stop raping my notifs
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     Berk Berkman (berkberkman@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Apr-2025 00:54:05 JST Berk Berkman

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     @themilkman The text editor wars, systemd, X11, Wayland, UNIX philosophy, GNOME, blobs, and Rust issues all do not matter to the mass amount of users, including most viewers of PewDiePie. What matters is simply this question:
     
     "Will it just werk?"
     
     And it seems to work well for him.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Apr-2025 00:57:50 JST 翠星石

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     @get @s8n @themilkman "FOSS"tards develop proprietary software and I don't care about DOGE pulling their funding or the taking away from "estradiol" (whatever that is).
     
     The only people who care about freedom have been associated with GNU.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Apr-2025 05:04:01 JST SuperDicq

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     @CapitalB@noauthority.social @themilkman@shitposter.world One human not using Microsoft products does not do change anything if they replace it with another equally horrible proprietary product by another shitty company.

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     CapitalB (capitalb@noauthority.social)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Apr-2025 05:04:02 JST CapitalB

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     @SuperDicq @themilkman >Normies using Linux on top of proprietary operating systems does not help us with anything.

     Who? Who is US here?

     Are you seriously arguing that one more human NOT using M$ is a bad thing?