@VidMasterEon@branman65 Considering that I unironically now think he was a sodomite, I would not put it past him to have buggered an animal but nobody recorded the event for obvious reasons.
@WhiteAmericanEskimo >Any man who hates a dog that much is a demon. The Yankee-Southerner War proved that easily, but this just shows that he always had psychopathic tendencies from his youth.
Contrast this to that "evil traitor" Lee and his treatment of animals, like his war-time horse, Traveler, or a pet chicken he kept in camps or several family dogs.
@MeBigbrain@WhiteAmericanEskimo Actually, you are right about the father getting incensed and angry about the dog. I misread the text. Forgive me. :jahy_pain:
I've been dealing with nonsense, physical, mental, and social this past couple of days, which goads and tempts me to getting sloppy.
@MeBigbrain@WhiteAmericanEskimo Thomas Lincoln may have pained by the event, but I need to read the full passage in the copy of the autobiography later today. If Thomas looked the other way, on the other hand, that explains a lot why Abraham Lincoln's psychopathy went unchecked into adulthood and his eventual political career.
It doesn't sound like Abraham Lincoln wrote how the father reacted to his and his brother's actions, and I don't think Abraham would have neglected to record any chastisement or punishment.
@PalePimp@PodunkPotato@beardalaxy >Ukraine is an artificial construct of the Soviet Union, most of its current territory is inhabited by ethnic Russians who patiently await for the war to end once and for all and join Russia. That's wrong on a few levels. A lot of ethnic Russians live there who migrated during the Soviet Union. Also a lot of other "ethnic Russians" there used to be Ruthenian, which was a dominant ethnicity in The Ukraine until they were written out of existence by the Soviet Union and reclassified as "Russian". By this logic, your own statement is also a Soviet construct. Zelensky is garbage, but the people there are not. They've basically always been distinct even if often a vassal of Russia or a European power. Their name even suggests as much.
@PodunkPotato@beardalaxy Zelenskyy is brought down by a couple of very key factors: 1. His own people hates him, only tolerating his rule and behavior because Putin, Lukashenko, and the current war are worse, in their eyes. 2. The Western Internet, for now, prevents total control over information. The Ukraine does not have the infrastructure or laws like Russia and China have to try and limit the Internet's impact on the free flow of information.
Those two were completely absent in the mid 1800's. Majority of Yankees had a generally favorable of Lincoln, especially after the assassination, and the war, despite the sizable Northern dissident groups that opposed both. Lincoln also infamously went after journal presses that refused to tote the party line, especially early on in Maryland to prevent that state from seceding. You could not easily prove or disprove claims being written in yellow presses and abolitionist propaganda mills, due to logistics of researching those facts. Most people were too busy surviving or barely subsisting to care enough. That's why many myths still persist about the war, the North, and the South, like Lee torturing some of his slaves, which was slander by an abolitionist paper claiming to have one of his ex-slaves as a witness.
@SuperSnekFriend@PodunkPotato@beardalaxy >> Zelenskyy is brought down by a couple of very key factors: 1. His own people hates him, only tolerating his rule and behavior because Putin, Lukashenko, and the current war are worse, in their eyes.
East Europe is full of historic ancestral racial strife that is alien to us.
Ukraine is an artificial construct of the Soviet Union, most of its current territory is inhabited by ethnic Russians who patiently await for the war to end once and for all and join Russia.
The Zelensky people are part of a racialist nationalist cult that back in WWII fought alongside Hitler and happily went after anything Russian, specially the Christian peasantry, very funny that today like back them, many are of Jewish heritage, including Zelensky.
Never lose sight that the kikes are the ones playing on these artificial hatreds and orchestrated: "Putin and Lukashenko are worse" that is their doing too. (I'm not saying those two are good or bad, just pointing the finger at the manipulative kikes)
The west's is not about information control but disinformation control.
@beardalaxy The "Honest Abe" and "Christian Lincoln" myths were drilled hard into Americans and school children throughout the decades for a reason. If Lincoln's psychopathy and faggotry was open to all, then no Yankee worth his salt would have fought for him nor would have thought they were in the right killing hundreds of thousands of whom they believed to be fellow Americans.
@SuperSnekFriend what the FUCK Like okay, bored and rebellious teens doing rambunctious stuff... I get that. Sneaking out to go kill raccoons, that makes sense. But SEWING THEIR PELTS TO A DOG?? THE FUCK
@BowsacNoodle@beardalaxy@PodunkPotato@PalePimp How does their name suggest that? They were a no-man’s-land battle royale thunderdome between Russia, Poland, and the Muslims until Russia took it over. Their ethnicity was elevated relative to Russia by the USSR in their attempt to dilute Russian influence on the USSR.
@griffith@beardalaxy@PodunkPotato@PalePimp The borderlands or whatever it translates to suggests that it's a distinct place. Unless you don't consider "The Netherlands" to be its own country?
@PalePimp@KingOfWhiteAmerica@PodunkPotato@beardalaxy Why does this conversation always go in circles? I'm explicitly not defending NATO, zelensky, etc. The argument that Ukraine isn't a real country and there are no ethnic Ukrainians is retarded Russian propaganda.
@PalePimp@BowsacNoodle@PodunkPotato@beardalaxy I don’t think anybody here disputes the artificial drunken Churchill/Stalin Ukraine border fiasco. But it doesn’t automatically write certain peoples out of existence, which is the counterpoint being made.
@BowsacNoodle@beardalaxy@PodunkPotato@PalePimp It doesn’t really. I don’t see how “area between countries” translates to its own place, other than signifying lawlessness. It’s just a fact that Ukrainian identity was elevated by the USSR.
@BowsacNoodle@beardalaxy@PodunkPotato@PalePimp I’m just pointing out again that in reality it wasn’t much of developed culture, and got fleshed out by the USSR to counter Russian influence.
@PalePimp@KingOfWhiteAmerica@PodunkPotato@beardalaxy Then it seems we're talking past each other. My issue has always been brother wars and the claim that Ukrainians aren't a real people. I despise Zelensky and the zog puppet regime running the Ukrainian government.
That is not the argument at all, the argument is that the west-installed Kike-banderite government ruling Kiev decided to go genocidal for national-ethnic reasons.
The rationale that modern Ukraine is a political construct of the Soviets came into the spotlight well after 2020.
If I gave that impression it wasn't my intention, I've never disputed Ukraine was a country nor never said there aren't a unique people there, I've said from the beginning that there are "ethnic conflicts" that relate to the war, conflicts that are alien to the west and that the kikes used to drive a wedge between them.
There was no need for this war whatsoever, its only purpose was to use the crazies in the Ukraine side to try to weaken Russia so the (((west))) could plunder both Ukraine and Russia for the next 250 years.
Yes, modern Ukraine was "assembled" by the Soviets, so what? Most of the borders of Europe changed before, during and and after WWI and WWII, that is not the point.
And now the borders are going to change again because stupid, but alas, REALITY.