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   cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 07:31:11 JST cjd
   This is some funny shit
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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 07:31:10 JST Christmas Sun

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     @cjd I picked up some medicine today and for the first time UHC covered it.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 07:45:01 JST djsumdog

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     Yea, but are managers and directors going to get a pay cut? of course not. They might lay some of them off, but more likely, they'll just raise all the costs and drop the co-pay.
     
     Violence works immediately sometimes. Earth Liberation Front did shut down some operations. But they started back up again a few months or a year later. Meanwhile, America got sick of their violence and destruction. Their message was lost.
     
     I worked in health insurance. It is 100% scum. On the other side is Canada, where government death panels push doctors to push MAID/suicide. Also 100% scum.
     
     I don't know who this CEO was. Maybe he was a bastard shithead who beat his kids. Maybe he was a nice person who donated to every charity he could and tried to teach his kids right. But he had kids and now they don't have a father.
     
     I don't like living in a world where people think that's okay.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 08:25:30 JST djsumdog

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     Wow, I think you have made the mother load of bad takes. Fuck DO NOT REPRODUCE!. If you have kids, please murder them so they don't grow to be an fucking insane as you.
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     Asa (asa@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 08:25:31 JST Asa

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     @djsumdog @cjd the kids of bad people carry the genes of their parents.
     
     Being a kid is not a virtue, just a state of any living creature when not much time has passed since birth.
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     Asa (asa@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 08:25:31 JST Asa

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     @djsumdog @cjd if anything the kids might have a better life and maybe become good human beings without the bad influence of the father and with the lesson that evil people get assassinated.
     
     Many kids wish their parents were assassinated, many kids wish they could do it themselves
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     xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 08:35:08 JST xianc78

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     @djsumdog @cjd
     >he had kids and now they don't have a father.
     That's assuming the guy didn't fake his death.

     https://mileswmathis.com/brian.pdf

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     John Fediverse (mrsaturday@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 08:52:48 JST John Fediverse

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     @djsumdog @cjd >I don't know who this CEO was. Maybe he was a bastard shithead who beat his kids. Maybe he was a nice person who donated to every charity he could and tried to teach his kids right. But he had kids and now they don't have a father.
     Now do the kids whose father comes down with a tragic illness and insurance drops their coverage
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 08:52:48 JST djsumdog

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     Yea see ... I don't know what that has to do with fucking anything. Why should that relate to the murder at all?
     
     I worked at a BlueCross BlueShield for 2+ years. We had two bomb threats when I was there. Now if one of those bombs was real; say it took out eBusiness and me and all my co-workers were dead. Did we deserve it? Because we supported an evil company?
     
     Oh but this guy was a big director level position and raked in millions in personal income. Okay, what if it was a manager who made $250k? Yep he should die, totally guilty, But what if it was a lowly software dev that made $65k? oh that's tragic. He's just a grunt in the machine. But what if it was a high end senior dev that made $165k. Well he should have known better and used his skills to get a better job. Okay, what if it was $165k .. in New York City. That's like $100k anywhere outside the cities adjusted for cost of living..
     
     Where is the line? How much do you have to make or what level do you have to be at where vigilante justice and murder is justified.
     
     You know who celebrates the death of made up enemies they don't even fucking know? Deranged Lefties:
     
     https://battlepenguin.com/politics/how-the-left-celebrate-death/
     
     Don't. Be. Like. Them.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 09:10:00 JST djsumdog

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     and the thing about catharsis is that it doesn't help. There's that study (it's been replicated a few times) where you make someone really angry and then you put them in a room with a ton of glass shit. Half the people are given a baseball bat and told to break things, the other half sits calmly.
     
     The group that breaks things is more angry afterwards. They're more shitty afterwards. You can never "let off steam," with destruction. Our brains are not pressure cookers. You engage in destruction and it will ONLY MAKE YOU MORE DESTRUCTIVE.
     
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD68reVP0Ek
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     Gabe (gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 09:10:01 JST Gabe

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     @djsumdog@djsumdog.com Violence works immediately sometimes. Earth Liberation Front did shut down some operations. But they started back up again a few months or a year later. Meanwhile, America got sick of their violence and destruction. Their message was lost.This is a great point that also applies to many things beyond this incident.
     Is it about actually making meaningful change or is it about catharsis in the moment?
     Those can often be mutually exclusive, or at least productive to each other.
     
     That said, I think there's nothing wrong with people using the assassination as a "conversation starter" on flaws in the industry. Post-mortems are useful even when it can be hard for many to sit through.

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     @djsumdog @mrsaturday @cjd
     
     Shoot 'em all
     https://www.amerika.org/politics/shoot-all-the-healthcare-ceos/
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     John Fediverse (mrsaturday@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 12:15:14 JST John Fediverse

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     >Yea see ... I don't know what that has to do with fucking anything. Why should that relate to the murder at all?
     Because it's one side deciding the other should die to benefit themselves. It has everything to do with the murder. You talk about death panels and yet that's literally what insurance companies have become. At least it's privatized, I guess.
     
     >I worked at a BlueCross BlueShield for 2+ years. We had two bomb threats when I was there. Now if one of those bombs was real; say it took out eBusiness and me and all my co-workers were dead. Did we deserve it? Because we supported an evil company?
     
     >Oh but this guy was a big director level position and raked in millions in personal income. Okay, what if it was a manager who made $250k? Yep he should die, totally guilty, But what if it was a lowly software dev that made $65k? oh that's tragic. He's just a grunt in the machine. But what if it was a high end senior dev that made $165k. Well he should have known better and used his skills to get a better job. Okay, what if it was $165k .. in New York City. That's like $100k anywhere outside the cities adjusted for cost of living..
     
     >Where is the line? How much do you have to make or what level do you have to be at where vigilante justice and murder is justified.
     You want to know the line? I'll give you the best answer I can because it's not exactly 100% easy to define. You of all people should know how complicated the health insurance industry is, after all.
     
     If you are in a decision-making capacity in which you choose profits over people and your actions condemn innocents to death, and others have tried everything to get you to show some semblance of mercy and spare their loved one, even down to trying to vote to restructure the entire system to keep that sort of thing from happening like in 2008 (except thanks to all of those fat profits you got from telling kids that daddy has to die in the name of the big line, you paid off senators to make the reforms a giveaway to your company), then the only recourse apart from going "aw shucks oh well" is to send a message one way or another. I'm not in favor of blanket bombing. You're acting like someone upset about Ruby Ridge capping Lon Horiuchi is the same thing as the OKC bombing, that happened directly under a daycare and killed a bunch of kids. I know people have to eat. I work for a company with an even more unpopular CEO than this guy and the people on the bottom trying to make a living don't deserve it. People in a decision-making capacity that profit off of the suffering of others? Sure.
     
     I'm aware of Dodge vs. Ford, but still. You made the decision to be the one making those decisions and you can count accepting that position as a calculated risk. It's not about dollars and cents, it's about lives and how you impact them.
     
     >You know who celebrates the death of made up enemies they don't even fucking know? Deranged Lefties.
     I don't give a damn about left or right. You want to know the difference between left and right? Left puts effort into making things happen while the right just closes their eyes and bites the strap and repeats Rudyard Kipling's "If" to themselves in their head in the hopes that the problems will just go away on their own, or better yet, someone else will do it for them. I see dipshit Poasties rant and rave about Jews run and ruin the world, and then beat their chest about working hard for their Jewish boss because to not do so would make them spiritually black, and that's what the right wing is. All talk, unprincipled losers that are in it for the good feelsies just as much as a shitlib suburbanite white woman putting an "In This House We Believe" sign in the front yard.
     
     I disagree with the left on quite a few things but the right is a lost cause.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 12:15:14 JST djsumdog

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     If you are in a decision-making capacity in which you choose profits over people and your actions condemn innocents to death

     ... you know. I think back to some of the directors I met, all the meetings I was in. Shit, I had company dinner with a VP I totally forgot about! ... They don't know what's going on. They really don't. I didn't, even as I watched millions on balance sheets go to the dumbest fucking advertising campaigns the high ups though would make people healthier and reduce costs.

     Would I want that VP shot? Fuck no. I don't think his stuff helped, but from our limited interactions, he didn't seem like a bad person. The CEO was a total "figure head." We even had system admins say as such in meetings in front of our director. We could stay stuff like that back then.

     keep that sort of thing from happening like in 2008

     2008 was a financial coupe. It was a financial style 9/11. It was insane corruption. The House was ready to vote down TARP and then, overnight, 30~40 votes flipped! I wonder how many of those fuckers were on Epstine's island .. or another Diddy/Epstine blackmail party.

     So you may have missed some of the other posts in this thread, because I really go down this route harder than ever at this point. This makes fucking sense:

     https://mileswmathis.com/brian.pdf

     Skip to 4:10 in this one (or watch the into too; I don't care):

     https://youtu.be/7eSsLgIap80

     What the hell is going on right now? Americans of all sides are saying we're okay with a murder and vigilante justice? This is bizarre man.

     Watch carefully ... watch this be the start of "changing" healthcare .. into something even more sinister and fucking insane.

     I don't believe what I see on the TV/Googles/Facebooks ... and I think we all got duped into the rage machine.

     I'm not going to hate someone I don't fucking know and say he deserves death because the outrage machine of the minute tells me to. Something ain't right here.

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     gentoobro (gentoobro@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 13:03:25 JST gentoobro

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     It's amazing how many people come to the defense of one of the most evil men in the country. This guy was at the top of a cartel that bribed the Obama administration into forcing everyone to buy their products at gunpoint, creating a monopoly that they used to drive medical costs into the stratosphere. Guys like him are why millions of Americans are now lifelong debt slaves because they got sick and had to stay in a crummy hospital for a week or two.

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     BSD/r000t (r000t@ligma.pro)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 13:03:26 JST BSD/r000t

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     >he had kids and now they don't have a father

     Hot same for literally hundreds of thousands of children who lost parents to, strictly for a single example of one failure mode for one type of disease, cancer that could have been treated or prevented entirely had his company either not denied or not dragged their heels on approving preventative medicine and/or diagnostic tests for.

     That's, again, hundreds of thousands of children who got Netflix'd on just one class of malicious fuckup for one class of disease.

     I just got done making recusrvie goal-setting AI with access to cURL, Arxiv, PubMed and zsh. We can do the numbers for the other diseases if you'd like.

     Oh, and very very few of those children had their parents leave them as rich as this guy did. And this man's kids won't have the months or years of suffering, dread, knowing that their parents are on borrowed time, being strung along with false hope that gets shattered with a letter or a phone call, every time.

     Fuck this man's corpse and fuck his kids. Cut his dick off his corpse and fuck his kids with it imo.
     @cjd

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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 13:18:50 JST djsumdog

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     > It's amazing how many people come to the defense of one of the most evil men in the country. This guy was at the top of a cartel that bribed the Obama administration into forcing everyone to buy their products at gunpoint
     
     I'm not defending this guy. I don't fucking know this guy. I'm interested in this fact and I'd like a link if you have one.
     
     I'm against the rage machine. In case you missed it elsewhere in this thread, here are two tinfoil takes:
     
     It didn't actually happen: https://mileswmathis.com/brian.pdf
     
     The outrage is manufactured and being used for something worse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eSsLgIap80 (skip to 4:10)
     
     I don't know if either of those hold water. I have some issues with the PDF (no, most c-suite people don't have personal body guards. No one knows who the fuck they are).
     
     But I don't like the rage bating. I do question how so much narrative bullshit was released literally the day of (including shell cases with a book title?) It took three months for people to get the George Floyd videos because they were intentionally withheld. This is being released immediately; including crucial pieces of the case (like the words on the shell casings). That should raise alarms.
     
     I want to see your info on him and Obama's administration. I am curious.
     
     I'm against the rag induced "glad rich man in evil company is dead." Fuck, even Louis Rossman rants in his latest video about how vile and evil insurance is, but still wants the guy who killed this dude to be arrested.
     
     You don't solve your problems through vigilantism. That doesn't change the system or fixes. It's just fucking rage bait man.
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     anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 13:27:21 JST anemone

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     @djsumdog@djsumdog.com I worked at a BlueCross BlueShield for 2+ years. We had two bomb threats when I was there. Now if one of those bombs was real; say it took out eBusiness and me and all my co-workers were dead. Did we deserve it? Because we supported an evil company?Yes

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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 13:27:21 JST djsumdog

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     How many evil companies do you support every fucking day. The t-shit you own is made in Mexico by someone who gets paid $5 a day. The CPU in your laptop is put together by someone in Indonesia that makes $20 a week. The food you eat is produced by farmers and ranchers who see their margins cut ever fucking season, whose neighbors are selling out to factory farm companies and Bill Gates back firmed because it's not worth it.
     
     > Yes
     
     FUCK YOU! You want me to die? For working a fucking job you stupid fucking ideological cunt?! I try to be nice to you with your horrific bad takes, but Jesus Fucking Christ. You don't fucking know me. You don't know all the things I've done and see and all the ways I try to just be a decent human being.
     
     You want me to die? What the actual fuck is wrong with you? How are you such a god damn shitty person you want some random person on the Internet who worked two years as a fucking software grunt at an insurance company to fucking die?
     
     Do you want all McDonalds employees to die? They work for a horrible company. Do you want all Samsung employees to die? Their company controls a fucking nation.
     
     Just fuck you brain dead piece of vile garbage.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 13:32:31 JST djsumdog

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     I'd like to know how you could end up in a position like that and not understand how your decisions and company policies impact your customers. There's no way they could be that ignorant as to how their own industry works

     I was fucking 22 years old dude.

     ...political splurging...

     That's all incoherent,. Some ... America was great bullshit?..

     You know .. in the Davy Crockett time ... there was not health insurance and people died of famine and dysentery.

     Yea I'm done due.

     You shall not murder (Exodus 20:13, NKJV)

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     John Fediverse (mrsaturday@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 13:32:32 JST John Fediverse

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     >... you know. I think back to some of the directors I met, all the meetings I was in. Shit, I had company dinner with a VP I totally forgot about! ... They don't know what's going on. They really don't. I didn't, even as I watched millions on balance sheets go to the dumbest fucking advertising campaigns the high ups though would make people healthier and reduce costs.
     
     >Would I want that VP shot? Fuck no. I don't think his stuff helped, but from our limited interactions, he didn't seem like a bad person. The CEO was a total "figure head." We even had system admins say as such in meetings in front of our director. We could stay stuff like that back then.
     I'd like to know how you could end up in a position like that and not understand how your decisions and company policies impact your customers. There's no way they could be that ignorant as to how their own industry works, how it's viewed by the people outside of it, and why they feel how they do. What sort of a bizarre bubble do they have to be in?
     
     And if they are that ignorant, then one: holy shit that's even worse than I thought, and two: how do you think they're handling this right now? Is there even a shred of introspection, asking what would cause this, or is this "the peasants are revolting and I wish they would bathe more" levels of head-in-sand snobbery?
     
     >What the hell is going on right now? Americans of all sides are saying we're okay with a murder and vigilante justice? This is bizarre man.
     You must not understand our country very well is this surprises you. Americans have been open to the idea for two-plus centuries. This country is a tamed frontier. It's not two millennia of building on top of itself and kneeling before the local lord like most of the old world and the people aren't perfectly content waiting for the authority to see things their way and defer if they don't. It's Davy Crockett, Andrew Jackson, Wyatt Earp. It's coal miners getting so mad at their bosses that the Army has to literally bomb them into submission. It's throwing tea into Boston Harbor, it's living out of an actual hole in the ground with caked mud for your walls and having nothing to your name but a land deed, some seed, and a few ox, it's throwing your worldly possessions in a rickety wagon and walking 2000 miles because things might maybe be better on the other side of the continent. It's built from the blood and sweat of hardasses that take matters into their own hands when things don't go their way. It's the Europeans that said "No, I don't think I will" that ended up here and brought their bad attitudes with them and used that stubbornness and grit to turn a giant dirt patch into the preeminent superpower on the planet in less than 200 years. So yes, they're going to look at some empty suit that makes more money in a month than they'll see in a lifetime that profits off of telling dying children to eat shit and laugh and high five when someone gives him the business end of a 9mm. That is the American way.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 13:35:15 JST djsumdog

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     I worked there 2007 - 2009 you vile disgusting cunt
     
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     anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 13:35:16 JST anemone

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     @djsumdog@djsumdog.com you could just not work for an American health insurance company if you feel so strongly about what I think

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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 13:40:20 JST djsumdog

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     I thought you were talking about them being that closed off from reality.

     In some ways. But in other ways they were just regular normal people. It was literally 14 years ago dude. I was fresh out of college and needed work.

     Yeah, you don't understand us a goddamn bit.

     Who the fuck is "us'"

     consider asking for a transfer to the UK or Germany or some other dystopian nanny state shithole

     I lived in Australia for a year and New Zealand for 2 and came back to America, my home, the place of my birth and citizenship.

     Man, you're normally cool, but you're being a fucking asshole right now.

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     >I was fucking 22 years old dude.
     I thought you were talking about them being that closed off from reality.
     
     >That's all incoherent,. Some ... America was great bullshit?..
     Yeah, you don't understand us a goddamn bit. Sad. I agree, I think this conversation's done. Consider asking for a transfer to the UK or Germany or some other dystopian nanny state shithole if you don't want to have to deal with this sort of thing.
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     John Fediverse (mrsaturday@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 13:42:54 JST John Fediverse

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     @djsumdog @cjd Look, I'm sorry if I'm getting heated but being so dismissive and ending it with a Bible verse kind of got me. I'll dip out, I don't want this to get any worse.
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     Sounds good mate. Maybe we learned something. Good round.
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     It only makes sense to hop the border to leech welfare or harvest crops. Anything else is worse than getting even a shitty job here in Mexico. I suspect that a lot of Central and South American peasant migrants don't know this.

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     made in Mexico by someone who gets paid $5 a day

     Minimum wage in Mexico is around $15/day (depending on exchange rate), and only boring retail jobs sitting on a stool waiting for customers make that. You can dig ditches for $25/day, which is enough to raise a family on if you're frugal. The guys who welded the roof on this house were making about $30/hr under the table.

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     @gentoobro @djsumdog @anemone unironically, there are sweatshops in Los Angeles paying immigrants even less per garment
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     Not at all what I said. Not the argument at all. I've never really had a problem with you. Calling me a retard on a thread with a pretty complex topic .. lot-o-projecting. Go fight with the arguing pedos. They're probably more wroth your time.
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     @mrsaturday @djsumdog @cjd you're talking to a retard who upthread equated "being a good person" with "donating to charity"
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     @xianc78@gameliberty.club @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @djsumdog@djsumdog.com I also think there is a difference between working in an industry that has problems due to the society we live in, such as food service, and an industry that is inherently evil like for-profit health insurance.

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     @anemone @djsumdog @teratology For-profit health insurance is a symptom, not a problem. You used to be able to voluntarily form clubs and groups in which everyone pitched in and the money would be used to cover the cost if a member was hospitalized. This is no longer legal outside of religious groups.

     So health insurance companies will continue to exist for as long as the clubs that I've mentioned are outlawed.

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     >I do think that STEMlords and tech workers need to seriously grapple with the ethics of their personal choices.

     It's tough to do so (especially with the current CS job market), but I generally agree. I like to think John Carmack left Oculus because he was disillusioned with the direction Meta was going with VR with the whole Metaverse thing. Though, I don't know if his current AI startup will be any better.

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     @djsumdog @anemone okay obviously there are people who work for corpos and extensions of those companies + poor people working under them and suffer the most. Mc Dees and other fast food companies profit from child migrant labor in the worst conditions, etc. You get it, esp with tech. But the people responsible are higher up. I hate Musk Husk and everything he stands for but I am friends with people who work at spaceX and work under awful conditions.
     
     I do think that STEMlords and tech workers need to seriously grapple with the ethics of their personal choices. I'm moreso talking about defense contracting but you get the idea.