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   mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 05:41:16 JST mekka okereke :verified:

   Periodic reminder on Tesla safety:
   If you can read this, I am stronger than you. There are ~150 people on earth stronger than me, and you are not one of them. I am not strong enough to break a Tesla window from the inside of the car. So you definitely are not.

   If you are in a Tesla, and the car catches fire or falls in water, and you don't know how to manually open the door, you are going to burn to death or drown.

   Do you know how to manually open a Tesla door?

   https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/112067191029270020

   1/N

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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 05:45:03 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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     No, a glass punch tool will not help you.

     I am strong enough to break regular glass with my bare hands. I can and have done this. I am strong enough to break tempered car window glass with my bare hands. I can and have done this. I can't break laminated glass with my bare hands. I can't do it with a crow bar. Not quickly enough anyway. Neither can you.

     https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2HxWn6eP74

     The only way out is to know how to open the door via the manual release. Again, do you know where the release is?

     2/2

     Paul Cantrell and Joachim repeated this.
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     Lady Errant (errant@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 05:48:27 JST Lady Errant

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     @mekkaokereke I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'll never part with my 1997 4runner. Its the ultimate in simple mechanical engineering. Hell, I'd convert it to electric before I got rid of it.

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     zakatak (zakatak@kzoo.to)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 05:48:37 JST zakatak

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     @mekkaokereke and even if I *did* know how to manually open a Tesla's door, did I share that information with my spouse or children? My siblings? My aging parents?

     Arne Babenhauserheide repeated this.
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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 06:01:36 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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     You all know that the word "full" in "Full self driving" is taking a lot of creative license.

     You all know how hot a lithium fire burns.

     You will know that electric doors can fail in crashes or floods.

     So don't act surprised when you see that report that Teslas have the most fatal crashes per mile of any car brand.

     I still ask every parent that drives their kids around in a Tesla if they know how to open the door manually. I have only once met a parent that did know. (Shout-out YB Chu!)

     3/3

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     Ian Smith (katachora@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 06:10:05 JST Ian Smith

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     @mekkaokereke {fatalities / mile} feels like "if you make a thing that moves or operate a service that moves", you MUST report this number every time you report earnings, taxes, or file misc forms for regulatory or statutory compliance.

     And if we lived in the future we were promised in the 2000s, every time the company is mentioned, the text would include this number... "Acme [0.76 f/m] announced today..."

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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 06:24:36 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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     • David Njoku

     @davidnjoku

     🤣 Ha! You win! I yield! Seriously! I don't fight anymore. I only fight for love like Keanu.

     https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=INjLWeHVxwc

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     David Njoku (davidnjoku@mastodon.world)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 06:24:38 JST David Njoku

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     @mekkaokereke I feel like you've just challenged me to a fight. Meet me at the town square at dawn and we'll find out who is stronger. 😀

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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 07:00:00 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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     • TofuTheSquirrel

     @TofuTheSquirrel

     Big John Henderson can read. He just didn't come over in the Mastodon migration.🤷🏿♂️

     https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BNx6ITEijCg

     Larry Wheels can read. He just prefers YouTube and Instagram.

     https://m.youtube.com/shorts/XbaPIX6538w

     Tom Havilland can read. But he lives in the boonies in Australia with his snakes and spiders and crocodiles, Crocodiles don't have federated social media.

     https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5h8KeoupfRg

     And outside of the known strength athletes, about 100 unknowns, many Polynesian. They aren't on Fedi.

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     TofuTheSquirrel (tofuthesquirrel@piaille.fr)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 07:00:01 JST TofuTheSquirrel

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     @mekkaokereke wait wait wait wait. None of the 150 people that are stronger than you can read ? 🤔

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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 07:07:28 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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     • Log 🪵
     • David Njoku

     @log @davidnjoku

     You win!

     I blink.

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     Log 🪵 (log@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 07:07:29 JST Log 🪵

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     • David Njoku

     @mekkaokereke @davidnjoku How about a staring contest? Eyelid muscles are underrated in strength competitions.

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     Jeremy Wakeman (wakejagr@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 07:15:39 JST Jeremy Wakeman

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     @mekkaokereke

     I was not aware of this. That's scary. And that's yet another reason not to buy a Tesla.

     Of course, future humans (if they exist) can take comfort in the fact that when a sufficiently high profile death does occur, a new law will mandate visible manual door releases, à la Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire.

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     June Blender (juneb@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 07:16:34 JST June Blender

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     @mekkaokereke Do any other cars have this unbreakable laminated glass? Would I (not strong at all) be able to break out of our Subaru with a glass-breaking tool?

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     Douglas Kilpatrick (kilpatds@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 07:17:32 JST Douglas Kilpatrick

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     • zakatak

     @zakatak @mekkaokereke On a Model 3/Y, the -> FRONT <- doors have a very easy to access release. So easy to use that it's frequently found by accident by people looking for the door release.

     The rear doors don't have any.

     I have a model 3, but I don't have any kids and don't use the rear. I can't imagine gaming out how to get kids out of there if the car went into the water.

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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 07:19:54 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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     • June Blender

     @juneb

     Yes, many have laminated glass. But not many combine the laminated glass with electric doors that often stop working in a crash.

     If you are in a crash in your Subaru, the laminated glass can be safer than tempered glass. But then when everything stops, you can hopefully just pull the door handle and open the door normally.

     The Tesla equivalent to the Subaru's normal door handle, is the cable hidden behind the speaker grill.

     1/N

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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 07:40:57 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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     • June Blender

     @juneb

     Speaking of Subaru, I'd like to thank every Subaru driver for showing such incredible restraint!

     In not constantly reminding everyone that both the passenger capacity and storage capacity of a Subaru are not that different than a Cybertruck, and that a Subaru beats a Cybertruck in off-road driving conditions.🙃🙂

     Subaru rally
     https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IuTFqjK_P3A

     Stock Subaru vs Sand dunes
     https://youtube.com/shorts/wAtwS6soI0U

     Cybertruck vs Stock Subaru on a small obstacle. 🤡
     https://www.tiktok.com/@molesrcool/video/7428991018067889451

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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 08:20:35 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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     • Chuck

     @ChuckMcManis

     Yes, I know about ceramic tools and window breaking and stealing from cars. I along with every Black person in the Bay area, are experts on the crime. Because SF is the world's leading city for car window break-in theft. Seriously! Number one on planet earth!🏆🥇

     And cops can't stop it, because of racism.🙃🙂

     Because the crime is often done by the SF Asian community. But white people are convinced that Black people do most of the crime. So they tell cops to hurt Black folk more.🤡

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     Chuck (chuckmcmanis@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 08:20:37 JST Chuck

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     @mekkaokereke Have you ever seen this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWVKrtmpQbE&pp=ygUqYnJlYWtpbmcgY2FyIHdpbmRvdyB3aXRoIHNwYXJrIHBsdWcgc2hhcmRz it shows how using ceramic you can easily break a car's windows. Thieves use it to do smash and grabs. Not disagreeing that the manual release is best but even cars with electric windows need something like that.

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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 08:26:54 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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     • Chuck

     @ChuckMcManis

     It's November. I can literally tell you the exact 4 block area in the US that will have the most car break-ins in December. And I know I'll be right! 🔮🧙🏿♂️

     Because it's the same 4 block area that has the most car break-ins pretty much *every month*.🤡

     https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/111221212920122266

     And the break-ins don't happen where *Black people live*. They happen where *white tourists go*.

     But cops are mainly good at harassing Black folk, so I end up getting pulled over more than the thieves.🤷🏿♂️

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     Pete Wright (pete_wright@nlogic.systems)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 08:35:17 JST Pete Wright

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     • June Blender
     @mekkaokereke @juneb
     
     /me waves as a subaru owner since '99
     
     I remember I had my outback up in canada during a blizzard where we had over a meter of snow and wanted to do some doughnuts in a parking lot. after about 5mins of trying to get it to spin out and trying generally to be reckless i gave up cause the thing just stuck to the road 😭 it also had really good tires on it that the mechanic said "this thing i'll be able to climb a tree with these on it"
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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 08:35:17 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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     • June Blender
     • Pete Wright

     @pete_wright @juneb

     For extra fun, look up videos of Cybertrucks in the snow. 🤡

     Cybertruck failed in the real marketplace, but I suspect they're about to succeed in the fake marketplace. The people crowing about government waste are probably about to sell a whole bunch of these expensive fail wagons to the DOD, so that military personnel in combat zones can use a vehicle with less capability than an affordable hatchback bought by a be-flanneled Portland barista just trying to get from A to B.

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     JustAFrog (justafrog@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 08:39:48 JST JustAFrog

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     @mekkaokereke I 100% refuse anything other than a pure mechanical lock to all my things for holding persons inside of them.

     I just don't want to depend on an app, electricity or any other thing to be able to open the door and get out.

     And it should be easy. Just pull or turn the door-open-thing like always.

     When shit's on fire, I'm not in the right state of mind to read the manual.

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     Bryan Redeagle (bryanredeagle@beige.party)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 10:33:26 JST Bryan Redeagle

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     @mekkaokereke Would the manual release even work underwater with the water pressure? I thought that's the whole point of breaking a window.

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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 10:51:05 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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     • Bryan Redeagle

     @bryanredeagle yes, once there's enough water in the car.

     Zero physics explanation:

     Picture a large fish tank, 3 ft x 3 ft x 3 ft. When it's empty, you can lift it. But when it's full of water, you can't lift it, because it's too heavy.

     A cubic foot of water weighs ~62 lbs. So the full tank now weighs 1,682 lbs! (The weight of the glass can pretty much be ignored)

     But if the room the fish tank is in gets flooded so that the tank is underwater, you can now lift it easily! The water helps you!

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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 10:55:23 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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     • Bryan Redeagle

     @bryanredeagle

     If you are strong enough to lift a 1600 lb fish tank, then you are strong enough to open a car door in water. I am not strong enough to open a car door in water.

     If you are strong enough to open an empty fish tank, then you are strong enough to open a car door in water once some water is in the car. I am strong enough to open a car door in water once there is some water in the car.

     Yes, yes, physics folks itching to talk about pressure at depth, and PSI, and delta P.

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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 10:56:57 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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     • Bryan Redeagle
     • e3ff0c

     @e3ff0c @bryanredeagle

     Yes, that's equivalent to "lift the fish tank before it fills up" or "lift it after the room has flooded."

     https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/113524097834353050

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     e3ff0c (e3ff0c@infosec.exchange)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 10:57:00 JST e3ff0c

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     • Bryan Redeagle

     @bryanredeagle @mekkaokereke I believe Mythbusters back in the day tested on a car (obviously not a Tesla), and found that basically you have to get the door open immediately, or wait for the car to fill with water, in order to open the door.

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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 10:58:55 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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     • moggie
     • Bryan Redeagle

     @EverydayMoggie @bryanredeagle

     Yup.

     https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/113524097834353050

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     moggie (everydaymoggie@sfba.social)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 10:58:56 JST moggie

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     • Bryan Redeagle

     I have read that if the car is in deep water, it's more less impossible to open a door due to the immense pressure, and that breaking a window is your only viable option.

     @bryanredeagle @mekkaokereke

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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 11:48:08 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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     • June Blender
     • Paul Chernoff

     @paulc @juneb

     I don't know why, but Subaru owners in the US are usually really good people?

     Something about them attracts the kind of people that know where the best plums at the farmers market are, how to make a good frittata, and why it's important to protect trans kids, and why don't need to listen to nazis.

     It's a literal rally car! A Tokyo drift mobile!

     https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LXzPkkQirnM&t=45s

     But people use them to deliver fresh eggs and help friends move into new apartments and stuff.

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     Paul Chernoff (paulc@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 11:48:09 JST Paul Chernoff

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     • June Blender

     @mekkaokereke @juneb I don’t know if you planned it but you got us Subaru owners out in force.

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     Dave (daveosaurus@mastodon.nz)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 11:48:38 JST Dave

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     • June Blender

     @mekkaokereke @juneb I bought my now 30-year-old Legacy back when it was six years old based on how well a similar model Legacy work vehicle I had been using behaved on gravel roads. Haven't regretted it at all - the only way it could be improved is to have been fitted with manual window winders as well as electric ones.

     As for its carrying capacity... it's amazing what a furniture salesman can do if told that they'll sell a big dining table if they can get it into the back of a car...

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     Scrummy (scrummy@jawns.club)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 12:33:49 JST Scrummy

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     • June Blender

     @mekkaokereke @juneb I miss my wife’s 2009 WRX. Hauled stuff and hauled ass!

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     Karl Auerbach (karlauerbach@sfba.social)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 19:22:31 JST Karl Auerbach

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     @mekkaokereke In our Tesla people have trouble finding the electric door open buttons.

     And even people who know that they are there can not often find the mechanical opener levers.

     But if you are in the back seat you can kiss the world goodbye because there are no mechanical door opener levers, only the electronic buttons. (Oh yeah, there is a rear door release if you have a pry bar to open up one of the door panels.)

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     Konstantin Weddige (weddige@gruene.social)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 19:22:45 JST Konstantin Weddige

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     @mekkaokereke that's crazy! I'm pretty sure (I don't know the name of the regulation, so I didn't double check), that in the EU laminated glass is mandatory for the windscreen and tempered glass for all side windows.

     So for the EU versions of their cars (not the Cybertruck, which won't get an EU admission for a multitude of reasons anyway) they would have to do this differently anyway.

     mekka okereke :verified: repeated this.
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     Konstantin Weddige (weddige@gruene.social)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 20:10:15 JST Konstantin Weddige

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     @mekkaokereke I just checked ECE R43 (that's the EU regulation concerning the approval of safety glazing materials and their installation on vehicles) and laminated glass seems to be legal for side windows.

     But most car manufactures don't think throwing metal balls at their cars is a good sales pitch and just don't use it.

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     Azuaron (azuaron@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 21:37:58 JST Azuaron

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     @mekkaokereke Holy shit. I've never been in a Tesla, so TIL that they don't just have door handles.

     Truly, we are building the stupidest dystopia.

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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 22:36:24 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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     • TofuTheSquirrel

     @TofuTheSquirrel

     Yes, your reply was perfectly fine!

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     TofuTheSquirrel (tofuthesquirrel@piaille.fr)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 22:36:25 JST TofuTheSquirrel

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     @mekkaokereke I'm reading your very complete response again, after someone else answered to it. And I'm wondering if it was obvious that my message was just a little joke.

     I had no idea of who are the other strength athlete you mentionned and I was not implying anything about them. I just find "If you can read this" a little funny because of the litteral meaning it has in addition to the actual meaning.

     If it was not clear, it's on me (who can't write clearly apparently 😅).

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     Bryan Whitehead (bryan@macaw.social)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 17:17:52 JST Bryan Whitehead

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     @mekkaokereke
     In China a common accessory is this strap that is high visibility for you to manually pull open a Tesla rear door. For the life of me I don’t know why someone hasn’t bought a container full of these to sell on Amazon.

     https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPzoo8T

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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 17:17:58 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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     • Bryan Whitehead

     @Bryan

     🤯

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     Charo del Genio (paraw@mathstodon.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 17:32:11 JST Charo del Genio

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     @mekkaokereke thank you for this.

     I can actually easily punch through several wooden boards or bricks, or even go through them hitting them with the side of my hand (done it last time in October, as my current city organized a demonstration of various sports to promote physical activity, and I participated with my martial arts club). In fact, very many years ago, when I was still a teenager, I had to punch through a car window from the outside, to save the driver who had just lost control and crashed on a lamppost (the doors were jammed and the car was leaking petrol all around).

     But I didn't know about laminated glass. I just read about it, and FWIW I think you are absolutely right about it being really difficult to punch through. So, thanks for the info (also fuck Musk and his company, but that goes without saying)!