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Women who initiate 70% of all divorces would oppose removing no fault divorce.
RT: https://5dollah.click/objects/e0c88ea0-5ef1-441c-a166-d6ea7a017ae4
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I think it would depend on the nature of the law.
A law could be very narrow as to the causes and damages available, which could make a difference.
For example, if there was a cause for infidelity with some sort of damage award, women would support it because they think that men are a bunch of cheaters.
If the causes are not well defined, I think men would be more likely to support it.
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@s2208 @Griffith Probably is... i will research it more
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i think the number is higher. I think it's more like 80%
marriage itself incentivizes a woman to divorce because of the unbalance in family court outcomes
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I live in a no-fault state. There is no such cause here.
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that is divorce for cause. we always had that. what we have had since 1966 is divorce for no reason at all if one party wants it.
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I think all states are no-fault now
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The thing men should be scared of is a cause for domestic violence. If you've ever had experience with state domestic violence laws, the definition is so broad that common, non-violent, male behavior can easily be deem domestic violence, and women often lie and use crocodile tears to bring out captain save a ho in a male judge, and sympathy and hate for men in a female one .
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I'm also saying that you could have both systems. People can get divorce if they want, but that proceeding could include causes of action for violation of the union.
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that's how it works in Massachusetts. we have a 1a and 1b divorce
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True.
I witnessed a friend's wife break a flower pot over her own head in the back yard.
Then she called the cops. I saw it through his fence. I told the cops exactly what I saw.
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When I was young, I was at a friend's house. His gf started beating on him and called he cops. She told the cops that he was abusive. I told them what I saw, and they didn't arrest him (they didn't arrest her either, though they technically should have. They would have if she was a he). The shitty part is that they took every gun in the house.
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I believe it. DVRO law just fucks men. It's only used against women in the most extreme cases, and even in those cases, men's complaints are often dismissed.
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@Humpleupagus @s2208 @Griffith @ArmchairEconomist01 Haha, I got shoved over a set of bar stools on my home, then I restrained her by the wrists to prevent further attack and injury. Then I went to jail for a month and lost my gun rights lmao
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with undeniable proof to the contrary, I reckon.
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Women are victims.
Men have to man up.
The law only protects victims.
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thx jews
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Yup. They gave a nearly penal power to the most vindictive gender, and didn't require proof.
Here in California, a woman can get a temporary dvro pretty much over the counter (judge does have to sign) on affidavit without any notice or hearing for the restrained party. There's no action "malicious prosecution" or "abuse of process" if she lies. A DA could charge, but they never do.
If you violate it, it's quasi-criminal, and it doesn't matter if he application was false and no final order would have issued. Basically, you're on parole.
I've only done one DVRO matter in my career, for a friend, and he was under a temporary for 18 months because of a slow docket. He had to turn in his guns under it.
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@SmidgePierce @UnCL3 @Humpleupagus @Griffith @s2208 @ArmchairEconomist01 You know I'm right. They WILL arrest her if you say that.
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But I'm not ready to come out of the closet yet. 😃
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@UnCL3 @Humpleupagus @Griffith @s2208 @ArmchairEconomist01 My wounds (abrasions on my back) weren't even healed by the time I was released. If I'd have known the outcome, I would have fed posted
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@SmidgePierce @UnCL3 @Humpleupagus @Griffith @s2208 @ArmchairEconomist01 Sue and claim she attacked you because you confessed to her you are a homosexual and she called you a filthy faggot and jumped you. I guarantee you she gets arrested. Guaranteed.
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@Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @UnCL3 @Humpleupagus @Griffith @s2208 @ArmchairEconomist01 I'm both inspired and offended lmao
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Nigger, you never fit in a closet. The trunk sticking out is a dead giveaway.
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@Humpleupagus @s2208 @Griffith @ArmchairEconomist01 Fun stuff that has liberally been interpreted as 'domestic violence':
>raising your voice to a woman
>telling a woman she is free to leave a relationship if she is not happy
>walking away from a woman and leaving the domicile in the midst of a heated argument
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> Telling her the she can't have sex with other men
> Publishing true, but embarrassing, facts about her in a public forum.
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I've seen bitches say they're scared and drop crocodile tears to authorities only to turn around and smirk at the man she's fucking over. Stoning should be legal.
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@TrevorGoodchild @Humpleupagus @s2208 @Griffith @ArmchairEconomist01 >Friend arrives home from work after 12 hour shift
>Grabs a beer, sits in fav chair, hanging with my brother
>Wife says something, he doesn't hear it... "Huh, hun?"
>No reply, "must not be important", continues to drink beer
>Wife walks up behind his chair, doesn't say a word
>Wife busts an unopened 1-gallon jar of pickles over his head
>"WTF!" huge gash in his head, blood everywhere
>My brother WTF's too.
>Friend throws an ashtray into his own TV, goes outside.
>My brother gets a towel, tries to help
>Wife calls cops, tells them she broke a jar over his head
>Cops show, friend is bleeding bad, they call EMS
>Cops talk to wife, she says she was scared.
>Cops ask how the TV got broke, she says he did it after her attack
>My brother tries to talk to the cops "we don't need your help"
>Cops arrest my friend for DV
>In court, wife says she was afraid
>He'd never struck her in all their time together, over a decade
>My brother testifies to what happened that night
>Friend is found guilty, jail, too violent, no visitation with his kids
>Wife goes for divorce, gets everything
His life was ruined. He lost his job, his kids, everything. She joked about it on facebook. He took to drugs and died a few years ago from the complications. He once said "I should've killed her", I didn't say a word one way or the other in agreement. I wouldn't have blamed him if he did and a prosecutor wouldn't have wanted me on a jury either. I've had friends tell me I got screwed in my divorce but I'm quick remind them it could've been so much worse.
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@Honkers @Humpleupagus @s2208 @Griffith @ArmchairEconomist01 I have lost count of how many stories like this I have heard from men
There is a reason I try to advise on the finer points of low time preference, anatomic breakdown of human bodies, and how it is so much harder to build a case when a corpse is never found
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>Babe you said you don't drink soda why do you have so many bottles of coke in the garage?
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> It's where I keep my pubic hairs.
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@TrevorGoodchild @Humpleupagus @s2208 @Griffith @ArmchairEconomist01 >walking away from a woman and leaving the domicile in the midst of a heated argument
I was talking to a guy who did this. His girlfriend called the cops because she was so pissed that he just left. He ended up being charged with a "verbal domestic", whatever that is.
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It's illegal for men to have emotions. That's the law. 🤷♂️
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> You can be in a good mood around women, because you're obviously coming onto them, and that's inappropriate.
> You can't be in a bad mood around women, because you're threatening and scary.
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@Humpleupagus @jobanab @Griffith @s2208 @TrevorGoodchild It's illegal for men to show emotions...
Especially affection for woman. If a woman takes it the wrong way they call it sexual harassment. You can't give a woman a compliment these days.
When I'm dead, I will be grateful to be done with that part of life.
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This article isn't too bad. It sums up many issues re dvros.
https://www.acrosswalls.org/anti-men-gender-bias-restraining-orders/
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