1. "NJP/TRS bad!" - Well, you got what you wanted, the NJP is dead; why are you still crying about them? Or better yet, why don't YOU do it? Oh, that's right. Because you're just a bad actor, trying to prevent ANY effective political organization for White people.
2. "Russia is ZOG-East!" - Well, 10 years of Jews agitating for war, couping Ukraine, destabilizing the region, sending NGOs and media orgs, and literally SAYING THAT THEY WANT TO DESTROY RUSSIA THEMSELVES would suggest otherwise.
3. "You're cucking for brown Muslims!" - lmao, sure. Go Hamas!
Like, just think about the logic of that: You call Mike a Jew, you say Russia's controlled by Jews, but then side with... Israel.
@haberdasher Possibly, or they're just feds (whether they know it or not) sent in to try to cut down the tallest weed. That's the thing about these people - they DON'T have their own podcast, or website, or network, or political group, they ONLY attack. At most, they will try to send you down a pro-Jewish rabbit hole, like supporting Trump (Fuentes) or Israel (PF). And that's because they're not arguing in good faith; it's not that TRS "isn't good enough" somehow, or "is Jewish," somehow; they actually just don't want White political organization, period. Their entire job is to scan for the "tallest weed in the garden" and cut it down, then scan for the next-tallest, cut that down, etc. If TRS went completely defunct tomorrow, they would just move on to Warstrike and attack Warren & Striker.
@AidanTTIerian@haberdasher The guy you got into a shit flinging fight with is a cool dude who has been here for a long time and happens to be Ukrainian. His critique of them was mostly against the "Ukraine isn't even a real country!" type rhetoric. It's pretty lame of you to fedjacket people who don't go all in on a movement. I always said "I wish NJP the best and hope they succeed" and even defended them through most of the criticisms, even though I never financially supported them. All I'm saying is not everybody who disagrees is a fed and not every criticism is concern trolling.
@BowsacNoodle@AidanTTIerian@haberdasher You can be too emotionally invested to ever admit you could be wrong about something, even your own country. I don't mean about it being a "fake country" I mean it being turned into something that isn't Ukraine anymore.
How many White Americans took forever to admit that America, or more properly "America", is frankly a lost cause?
So goes with Ukraine being turned into a massive operation gladio country to start shit with Russia.
For some reason history "started" in 2022 rather than 2014 when the Ukrainian terror bombings of Donetsk began. Though that is unfair to Ukraine, too (as such bombings didn't happen without ZOG's involvement) - the country has been fought over via elections, assassinations, PMCs, cultural exchange, financial power, etc, between ZOG and Russia since 1991.
@BowsacNoodle@AidanTTIerian@haberdasher I could go and point people against Russia to the things Russia has done explicitly for ethnic White Russians (re-writing their own constitution to turn them into a "state-forming peoples" by law), for the Russian Orthodox Church, their complete banning of LGBTQ pedofaggotry, etc, but it doesn't matter.
People are invested emotionally and/or have historical grievances against Russia.
Let us look at how Poland and Latvia are handling this, as they are part of NATO and being forced to accept fag marriage and more migrant invaders that aren't even native to the land, while still being butthurt at Russia.
Oh. They're being used by NATO/ZOG as a weapon against Russia and being turned into gay niggers in the process.
@lichelordgodfrey@AidanTTIerian@haberdasher Oh for sure. I didn't even hate on Russia. My number one grievance has been the loss of Ukrainian peoples for literally no reason. It's very sad. That area has always had a rough go being borderlands or the edge of empires though.
@Shlomo@lichelordgodfrey@AidanTTIerian@haberdasher I'm talking about the unwillingness to negotiate or anything else that would make sense when you're in this bad of a situation. There's plenty to be skeptical about regarding Russia and its motives and methods, but I see that as separate from the corruption and detached foreign leadership in Ukraine (Zelensky).
It's easy (and normal) to get amped up to defend your homeland even if you hate your overlord. Ukraine hadn't been through what "America" already has where if we were (militarily) invaded, I am not sure how much of it would actually care anymore.
And the puppet government and ZOG have been cynically using that natural instinct ever since, to the point they're drafting young women and old men to fight...
The stated goal, as U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin blurted out loud, was to hurt Russia. Has it even accomplished that? It doesn't appear to have done so.
@Francisco@lichelordgodfrey@AidanTTIerian@haberdasher >They've died because their corrupt government sold their lives off to NATO and ZOG in exchange for money and power. You know I sort of thought that was implicitly understood at this point. Where do you think we are man? Do you think I'm that head in sand that I don't realize that? I consider that "no reason" because it's fleeting and useless and disgusting. I forgot the word "good" I guess.
@BowsacNoodle@Francisco@lichelordgodfrey@AidanTTIerian@haberdasher ultimately i'm always pretty glad when i realize the online personalities we see running around here are never going to be in power over us, especially whne they can't at least express sadness over hte loss of white life.
@givenup@Francisco@lichelordgodfrey@AidanTTIerian@haberdasher Yeah pretty much. I'm not enough of a sociopath to ignore that nor egocentric enough to think repeating the UNIVERSALLY UNDERSTOOD TALKING POINTS IN THIS POLITICAL SPHERE is worth doing.
@Francisco@BowsacNoodle@lichelordgodfrey@AidanTTIerian@haberdasher it's the same feeling i get when people wish all americans dead cuz people who've been fed jew propaghanda for years somehow deserve death when they are in reality victims, "how fucking dare oyu wish me and other white people dead just because you're angry, you sad pathetic loser"
@Francisco@givenup@lichelordgodfrey@AidanTTIerian@haberdasher Not rehashing the same point ad nauseum is not lying. I legitimately think sacrificing people's lives for money and power is "nothing" because it's temporary at best and will be punished in this life or the next. It's very evil, and I see it like trading bars gold for a clump of sand.
Counterpoint: there is a difference between merely telling the truth vs launching into some line about how the sky is blue any time the weather gets brought up. Sure, it's not factually incorrect, but you know, we kind of know that already.
@Francisco@givenup@lichelordgodfrey@AidanTTIerian@haberdasher Listen pal, I didn't "lie". I stand by what I MEANT to say, however I SHOULD HAVE said it better. Given that I've already been blocked by someone for an incredibly mellow comment in this exact thread, I'm not in my usual mode of "assume good faith". I apologize to you for being so defensive. I'm tired and phone posting today, which is a terrible combination.
@Francisco@BowsacNoodle@lichelordgodfrey@AidanTTIerian@haberdasher you know, in conext to me it just looks like he has disdain for them losing their lives for what is NOT A GOOD REASON, there's no reason this should be happening, except that jews are the scum of hte earth, i talk to this guy allt he time, he ain't that kinda person, you need to not assume some kind of weird malice.
So you don't think it was subversion. What was the point of the correction to begin with then? To enforce some sort of standard of ideological purity where it's not even needed? This sort of seige mentality where you can't pass up an opportunity for something to be an ideological battleground is how you get a bunch of paranoia and neuroses. That shit burns people out and drives them away.
Ok, but what is the actual subversion here? It feels like you're treating a pretty bog standard semantic error like some sort of jewish cognitohazard where if someone doesn't profusely express their indignation at whatever jewish machinations related to a topic they're somehow at risk of completely losing all knowledge of how the world works or something
Look, there's no such thing as a perfect analogy and I'm not under any delusion it's an airtight 1:1 comparisson. But it really isn't uncommon for people to say "no reason" when they mean "no good reason." Obviously, most things do have a reason attached to them, even if the reason is absolutely dog shit retarded.
I wasn't referring to you as "being against Russia" I meant in general, for the record.
I am not "pro-Russia" myself I just see what they're doing explicitly for their own constituent peoples and I see what ZOG is doing explicitly for its constituent peoples and I notice the discrepancy between them. One of them is far more pro-Christian, wants more White people to have babies, and outlaws the worst degeneracies. Recently, when some Tajiks committed a terrorist attack, the Russian authorities responded by mass deporting them from Moscow (where the attack took place) back to their home province. So even despite being historically a multi-racial/ethnic empire, they're more prepared to respond appropriately.
When was the last time you saw ZOG do something similar against Mestizos, Haitians, Arabs, ... anyone? Especially in America?
The "de-nazification" stuff is annoying but it's boomer soviet era rhetoric they put out while they still have their own army units sporting Sonnenrads, Totenkopfs, Swastikas, etc, alongside Red Army stuff, Tsar Nicholas II iconography, RU Orthodox symbols.
All that said, it's a tough sell to say to a Ukrainian they should have joined Russia again as a semi-autonomous state.
Though perhaps if we were to give foreign peoples a tour of Detroit, Baltimore, Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc maybe they'd understand.
@tyler@AidanTTIerian@haberdasher IDK if he was mad at me for defending Turkleton or what he saw as an "attack" against TRS, but either way good riddance and I consider it a total Bowsac Victory ✌🏻. Funny that not even two hours prior I was saying how Sven was my favorite and how talented he was. People man.
@CozyLife@lichelordgodfrey@AidanTTIerian@haberdasher I saw your deleted Poast, Cozy. 🥲 You can't control how others view people, but you'll have a lot more success in changing minds if you're less abrasive. "You catch more flies with honey" as they say.
@BowsacNoodle@CozyLife@AidanTTIerian@haberdasher That nigger put me back on block when I gave him a plausible explanation of where the water for the deluge went (quintillions of water are not even on the surface).
I made no claim to believe in the Great Flood one way or the other, but I undermined one of his points while he was arguing against a Christian.
with all that said, of course Sweden is working on not being a real country, so... real countries have their borders set and reset by war, which is currently underway. no doubt there will be some hurt feelings.
I'd just prefer Brandon stop escalating toward a nuke exchange with Moscow.
when someone says they are Ukrainian what does that even mean? the "offifial narrative" that history started in 2022 is in direct contradiction to the "official narrative" that Russia annexed some stuff before 2022... there are no nazis in Ukraine but the Canadian parliament gave a round of applause for an old Uke who worked for Hitler... I'd say there is an argument to be made for not a real country. it's a patchwork of stuff left over from WW2 and the collapse of the USSR. and the Ottomans before that. the globohomo witches and wizards had an easy time setting Ukrainians against each other. so, this poast guy who says he's Ukrainian, what oblast did he come from? what was his first language? orthodox or latin rites or atheist? there are a lot of micro-details to this "country".