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   SarahGation (sarahgation@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 03:57:28 JST SarahGation
   Good morning all ☕️
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 03:57:09 JST pistolero

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     @NonPlayableClown @DutchBoomerMan @SarahGation This is accurate. As noted in the blog post about it, after the other box shat itself, I eventually replaced it with an ARM cluster shoved into a 2U box. All the data's been recovered and the disks have been shredded, flushed, re-shredded, etc.
     
     I don't know what to do with the old box. Feels like a waste to ditch it, but it's flaky, and wants 3 amps. I might raid it for parts, like it's got that 4-port GbE PCIe card, the RAID card, etc. The disks all still work, but they're SAS so they'd actually need that RAID card (or similar). The box is basically eating up half a coffee table at this point, sitting in limbo.
     
     I don't know what DutchBoomerMan is on about.
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     NonPlayableClown (nonplayableclown@postnstuffds.lol)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 03:57:10 JST NonPlayableClown

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     Makes sense.
     Though I'm pretty sure @p just uses the datacenter but uses his own equipment and manages his own stuff.
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     Dutch (dutchboomerman@bunny.cafe)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 03:57:20 JST Dutch

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     yup why do you think i deleted my FSE account
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     NonPlayableClown (nonplayableclown@postnstuffds.lol)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 03:57:21 JST NonPlayableClown

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     Nah it's Graf's closest thing to a business where he makes instances for other folks and manages the server side.
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     NonPlayableClown (nonplayableclown@postnstuffds.lol)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 03:57:23 JST NonPlayableClown

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     I just got an update and looks like all instances are down on that service.
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     Dutch (dutchboomerman@bunny.cafe)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 03:57:23 JST Dutch

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     So like Soapbox or what is that Technical nerd shit called ?
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     Dutch (dutchboomerman@bunny.cafe)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 03:57:25 JST Dutch

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     i think its because me and Nef where saying we where gonna Rape politicians to death yesterday
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     NonPlayableClown (nonplayableclown@postnstuffds.lol)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 03:57:26 JST NonPlayableClown

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     I am curious is it only decayable or all instances on btrf.ly that are down?
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     Dutch (dutchboomerman@bunny.cafe)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 03:57:27 JST Dutch

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     i was about to Fed poast 😢
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     NonPlayableClown (nonplayableclown@postnstuffds.lol)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 03:57:28 JST NonPlayableClown

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     Morning, kinda bummed that decayable Is down 😒
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 03:58:36 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @p @DutchBoomerMan @SarahGation @NonPlayableClown Do you still need the cpus? (thats the mosy expensive part in building the servers if that gen)
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 04:37:18 JST pistolero

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     @DutchBoomerMan @NonPlayableClown @SarahGation No, Poast almost never goes down: http://demo.fedilist.com/instance/recent-changes?host=poa.st . (In fact, a lot of the reported downtime there is a false negative because Cloudfed hates the fedilist crawler.)
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     Dutch (dutchboomerman@bunny.cafe)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 04:37:20 JST Dutch

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     @NonPlayableClown @p @SarahGation So is Poast down 2 ?
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     NonPlayableClown (nonplayableclown@postnstuffds.lol)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 04:37:21 JST NonPlayableClown

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     I'm pretty sure Matty uses a completely different data center than what Graf uses.
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     Dutch (dutchboomerman@bunny.cafe)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 04:37:23 JST Dutch

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     @NonPlayableClown @SarahGation @p
     
     Not sure why Nice crew is still up maybe Matty updated before the rest got nuked
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     Dutch (dutchboomerman@bunny.cafe)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 04:37:24 JST Dutch

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     @NonPlayableClown @p @SarahGation
     
     FSE and Bunny Cafe work on a different thingy (medical term) then Decayable
     
     which i think use Soapbox
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     NonPlayableClown (nonplayableclown@postnstuffds.lol)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 04:37:25 JST NonPlayableClown

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     Fse is still up 🤔
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     Dutch (dutchboomerman@bunny.cafe)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 04:37:27 JST Dutch

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     @NonPlayableClown @p @SarahGation
     
     Graf told me personally he paid @p for his equipment
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 05:14:49 JST pistolero

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     @DutchBoomerMan @NonPlayableClown @SarahGation
     
     > Graf told me personally he paid for some of your hardware
     
     PSU failure at an inconvenient time, he covered it, I sent him some BTC, and I decommissioned that server a few months after those PSUs were replaced anyway.
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     Dutch (dutchboomerman@bunny.cafe)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 05:14:51 JST Dutch

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     @p @SarahGation @NonPlayableClown
     
     Graf told me personally he paid for some of your hardware
     
     these words are not my own
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 06:12:26 JST pistolero

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     @dcc @DutchBoomerMan @NonPlayableClown @SarahGation
     
     > Do you still need the cpus? (thats the mosy expensive part in building the servers if that gen)
     
     Oh, yeah? I mean, it has its CPUs (4x E5‐4600) and I have a few spare G6s (L5630, maybe half a dozen CPUs that are not in use). I don't really have a use for them, those are basically for scavenging fans and other frequently failed bits from the G6 that is in use, and since CPU is a pretty rare component to fail, all of the spare G6s still have their CPUs.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 21:16:19 JST pistolero

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     @0 @DutchBoomerMan @NonPlayableClown @SarahGation Actually, all of our hardware has been provided by Andrew Torba, it's in his basement.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 21:16:20 JST pistolero

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     @0 @DutchBoomerMan @NonPlayableClown @SarahGation Well, he did write "Boomer" in his username.
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     0 (https://gh0st.live/users/0)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 21:16:20 JST 0

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     @p @DutchBoomerMan @SarahGation @NonPlayableClown
     
     Graf himself told me that you used hardware he gifted to you, so that's why I don't use an account on your pleroma that you've had up for years, looks like you were lying about using a datacenter or something.
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     0 (https://gh0st.live/users/0)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 21:16:21 JST 0

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     @DutchBoomerMan @p @SarahGation @NonPlayableClown
     
     Oh no, it's retarded.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 22:42:32 JST pistolero

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     @DutchBoomerMan @NonPlayableClown @SarahGation
     
     > then dont call your server FREE SPEECH EXTREMIST
     
     Hey, it's been a while since I got one of these "YOU HAVE TO RENAME YOUR SERVER" demands. Look up what "arbiter" means before the orderlies take you back to your room.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 22:42:34 JST pistolero

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     @DutchBoomerMan @NonPlayableClown @SarahGation
     
     > i can never and will never trust you as an arbiter of free speech
     
     Great. I do not wish to be the arbiter of free speech.
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     Dutch (dutchboomerman@bunny.cafe)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 22:42:34 JST Dutch

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     @p @SarahGation @NonPlayableClown
     
     then dont call your server FREE SPEECH EXTREMIST
     
     call it Grafs Butt Budy
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     Dutch (dutchboomerman@bunny.cafe)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 22:42:36 JST Dutch

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     @p @SarahGation @NonPlayableClown
     
     i can never and will never trust you as an arbiter of free speech
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 22:42:37 JST pistolero

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     @NonPlayableClown @DutchBoomerMan @SarahGation Well, the bugout zone is up; FSE itself, give it a minute.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 23:03:14 JST pistolero

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     @NonPlayableClown @DutchBoomerMan @SarahGation
     
     > ?si=jF-HMkM8eZoruvdD
     
     This is a youtube tracking token. They have recently started adding it to URLs so that they can trace the spread of links across disparate sites. Your Youtube session (hope you don't have a Google account, or at minimum you have not logged into it) is now associated with everyone that clicked that link, and since the default config for most of these servers is to respect the OGP data and Twitter cards, which means several servers fetched that link, there's possibly a trail back to your fedi account.
     
     At any rate, I recognize the "Petrol Hour" thing, I'm not gonna sit through those tedious retards to figure any of this out: if nobody bothered to write it down, it's probably not important, and I don't want to turn off the music. (Some really good music, man, you can check my Baest/SPW accounts, the "scrobble" (still a really stupid word) data should cover it.)
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 23:03:15 JST pistolero

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     @NonPlayableClown @DutchBoomerMan @SarahGation
     
     > so he can have your info on his DB despite deleting your sccount.
     
     I'm not even sure what that means. I think I'd know about it if that were the case, because I've seen shit go down and jumped in to help, but graf had already scrubbed the account so I could not get some of the information required to figure out the pattern until the spammer made another account.
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     NonPlayableClown (nonplayableclown@postnstuffds.lol)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 23:03:15 JST NonPlayableClown

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     https://youtu.be/Dc9UWcZ2YKc?si=jF-HMkM8eZoruvdD
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 23:03:16 JST pistolero

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     @DutchBoomerMan @SarahGation @NonPlayableClown
     
     > back in the day i asked both Claire and Graf about a Delete everything panic button
     
     Maybe you should have looked under "Settings". I just checked, it's there.
     
     > because they like going true's people private messages
     
     Holy shit, you're retarded. I didn't interact with Claire much (beyond giving her an impromptu survival guide and some suggestions for server setup), but graf doesn't rifle through your DMs.
     
     But even if he did, do you really think that if you delete your account, this magically reaches into the DB backups and removes all of your data from there, too? This is what I was saying about being paranoid about the wrong shit. Your only option is to stop expecting to control information that has left your computer: either don't transmit anything that would be bad for you if it became public, or run your own server and still don't transmit anything that would be bad for you if it became public.
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     >Maybe you should have looked under "Settings". I just checked, it's there.
     
     Tbf a certain schizo :SeethingDanielS: made it so he can have your info on his DB despite deleting your account.
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     Dutch (dutchboomerman@bunny.cafe)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 23:03:18 JST Dutch

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     @SarahGation @p @NonPlayableClown
     
     back in the day i asked both Claire and Graf about a Delete everything panic button
     
     but they didnt want that
     
     because they like going true's people private messages
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     SarahGation (sarahgation@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 23:03:19 JST SarahGation

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     Feels weirdly unsecure today
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     NonPlayableClown (nonplayableclown@postnstuffds.lol)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 23:03:20 JST NonPlayableClown

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     Alex to my knowledge has little to no involvement with the Btrf.ly service.
     
     I do agree Dutch, I'm not a fan with small services that host clusters.
     For the very case if something fucks up you are basically reliant on 1 guy for mutiple servers.
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     Dutch (dutchboomerman@bunny.cafe)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 23:03:21 JST Dutch

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     @NonPlayableClown @p @SarahGation
     
     did ALex GLeason give any updates ?
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     Negative
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     Dutch (dutchboomerman@bunny.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 01:06:24 JST Dutch

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     @p @SarahGation @NonPlayableClown
     
     Nigger Poast was hacked twice
     
     are you smoking crack cocaine ?
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 07:32:34 JST pistolero

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     @NonPlayableClown @DutchBoomerMan @SarahGation
     
     > Most email services with the exception of maybe mailchimp and proton do that.
     
     My mail gets through without trouble to almost all servers with the sole exception of the ones that say "aspmx.googlemail.com" when I ask for the MX record.
     
     > if I detect it in the spam folder.
     
     Are you running any MTAs at present? If I send the email, Google's servers for a very long time, flagrantly ignoring SMTP, sends the mail to /dev/null and claims that it has accepted the message. This is a far worse problem than their spam filters fucking up.
     
     > getting defed for only one person getting butt hurt
     
     I think you don't get it. There are some people that try to cause trouble, like for :epstein: whatever reason :epsteinsmug:, the anime.website admin wanted to pick fights over FSE banning someone that wrote "MAP" in his bio and posted naked 12-year-old girls. Easy ban: a self-described pedophile posts nude young girls draped across each other on a bed, FSE didn't even allow loli hentai, so sexualized images of naked children are a very easy call. So the anime.website pedo shouts a while and decries my arrogance and calls me paranoid and says that I am not a lawyer so I don't know what pornography is and that I shouldn't tell pedophiles to kill themselves. Whatever, not going to budge: anyone that tries to upload CP to fedi should be swinging from a branch. (Same person started in again almost every time I banned a pedo.) So then the posting.lolicon.rocks guy decides to pick a fight over the same ban, and it becomes obvious the guy doesn't actually care about anything he's saying, he just wants to stir up drama. Easy to ignore him after that. I didn't regret the decision to ban the guy, I did it again without hesitation, I started posting their IPs and email addresses in the @modfaggotry notes. So if more people try to argue with me about that same ban, what can I infer? They intend to cause problems. Then if someone said, "Hey, this guy blocks people for arguing about that ban, he's clearly butthurt!" and a hundred people decided to start trying to fight about that ban, I'd just get rid of them.
     
     This happened with the Loli Question. Drama retards love that one: you can't ever prove "should" and people set their policies based on what they're willing to deal with. (In FSE's case, there were a few reasons to prohibit it: the DOJ maintains that it's illegal, I don't want to give people an excuse to instance-block, I don't want to give the government an excuse, etc.) It's very easy to determine the difference between someone that wants to talk about it and someone that wants to create drama (e.g., they hear "This is what we do and why, these are my concerns" and they ignore your concerns while continuing to hammer the salacious facets, or they restart the same argument from the beginning as if the previous argument hadn't happened, or especially in FSE's case, they complain to me for prohibiting loli for the "wrong" reasons and they completely ignored instances that explicitly allowed it; I think everyone knows how to tell, at least going by their gut even if they don't try to come up with a rule of thumb). The Loli Question was bot's go-to, she'd say deliberately misleading things to try to get a large number of replies, because having blocked her, she couldn't annoy me directly, but if she just replied to each of my last ten posts with something like "I can't believe you support child pornography!" then people would start replying to her post, and I'd be tagged in their replies. (She didn't create that tactic, but she can engage in :facesofautism2: repetitive behavior :facesofautism2: without getting bored.) But by the nth time the same group of people stirred up the same drama the same way, it wasn't hard to conclude that this was what they were going to do periodically. So, January 2, 2022, I get more notifications in one day than any other person on FSE--the hellthread instance--had ever gotten in one day. Then that record was broken five more times, and the fifth time was January 9, when I received 1,667 notifications in a single 24-hour period (there are only 1,440 minutes in a day) and decided to write the Iron Dome MRF, I tacked a bunch of usernames onto the Strangelove bot auto-responder, I blocked accounts, I instance-blocked accounts, etc.
     
     Nobody has time to deal with a gaggle of assholes that waste your time shit-stirring. It's not a matter of being butthurt, it's that nobody wants to dedicate their life to arguing on the internet with tedious assholes whose goal is not to get anywhere but to use senseless arguments to provoke you, the same people that have been on the same shit once a week for years, and if there are enough people that decide to do that once a week, it becomes a constant stream. Like I said, if I were in graf's position, I'd be smashing the big, red button way more often.
     
     > It's very petty if you ask me to hide your users to an entire instance because of 1 user.
     
     See my other remarks about exactly this happening to me 1,399 times: https://fba.ryona.agency/?domain=freespeechextremist.com . And we've gotten that not just because of one user, but because of one user that I banned when I saw what they were doing.
     
     It looks petty to you because you think it's personal. It's only personal from one end: from the other, it's the 50th time this week, and it barely registers to the conscious mind.
     
     > Issues with users for being "mean" should be handled by user settings (aka block) first than the big ol ban hammer.
     
     As stated, yes, absolutely, but that's doesn't reflect the actual case. Either you don't understand the scale and the degree and you think it is just an occasional person being mean, or you are downplaying it. Come on, man, it's not just an occasional person being mean on the internet. When poa.st first arrived and I was talking to graf about database tuning, I was getting messages from people telling me not to trust him, and I was like "Trust him with what? He is a guy running an instance, what's the worst he could do?" and I never got an answer from anyone, so whatever the grudge is, it evidently predates fedi. I'm thoroughly tired of the persistent stream of "Oh, that graf, he's MEAN ON THE INTERNET he's definitely UP TO SOMETHING", so I can only imagine what his notifications would look like if he wasn't using Soapbox and its complete shit notification UI. I don't blame him for shooting first and asking questions never.
     
     > Because any company big or small should not take and sell your data period.
     
     Sure, but as noted in the other post, the one that is relevant now is the one that is in front of us.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 07:32:35 JST pistolero

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     > Which dude that's way more fucked and you know it.
     
     Nothing Poast could possibly do would be as fucked as Google. My mail server gets inundated with spam from GMail accounts but for a while, Google was silently discarding my email without telling me, because a tiny mail server with a few people on it, none of whom have ever sent any kind of bulk email, is a horrifying spam risk. This has cost me time and money. Poking graf and getting dropped from Poast isn't a big deal: I have lost work because I didn't know GMail was silently dropping my email.
     
     > but Google isn't the only ones,
     
     What's that matter?
     
     > most ISP are taking your meta data and selling it.
     
     I use Tor, I recommend people use Tor. Most of the sites that block Tor are bullshit sites I don't want to use to begin with, people's mileage may vary. Privoxy does a good job of letting you whitelist stuff, send some stuff to Tor and some stuff through the clearnet, it's pretty useful. I just stay on Tor: usually, a site that blocks Tor is not a site I would like to use.
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     >...because a tiny mail server with a few people on it, none of whom have ever sent any kind of bulk email, is a horrifying spam risk.
     
     Most email services with the exception of maybe mailchimp and proton do that.
     
     Happens with me too, I just have constant communication and whitelist the sender if I detect it in the spam folder.
     Most likely, at least in my experience, the url may have been identified as spam and was indicated as much. Companies get that automatically and auto generate spam lists.
     
     >Poking graf and getting dropped from Poast isn't a big deal
     
     Sure it isn't the worst thing that has happen to me by a long shot, but to pay server and getting defed for only one person getting butt hurt is pretty pathetic. And poast isn't the only instance I'm talking about.
     
     Imagine defederating seal.cafe because of only bot.
     It's very petty if you ask me to hide your users to an entire instance because of 1 user.
     
     Issues with users for being "mean" should be handled by user settings (aka block) first than the big ol ban hammer.
     
     Also not to mention his fuckery with reporting instances to their datacenter to take down sites he dislikes.
     
     > but Google isn't the only ones,
     > What's that matter?
     
     Because any company big or small should not take and sell your data period.
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     NonPlayableClown (nonplayableclown@postnstuffds.lol)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 07:32:36 JST NonPlayableClown

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     >why are you worried about graf
     
     Not really worried about the dude. I like making fun of him and to call him out when a being hypocrite.
     
     Also I can shit on Google all I want (which btw I have) but I'm not banned or IP blocked from their services.
     Graf decided that because I make fun of him that it's justifiable to defed my entire instance to 10k accounts, instead of using the block button.
     
     Which dude that's way more fucked and you know it.
     
     Yeah data tracking is horrendous, but Google isn't the only ones, most ISP are taking your meta data and selling it.
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     >This is a youtube tracking token. They have recently started adding it to URLs so that they can trace the spread of links across disparate sites.
     >I recognize the "Petrol Hour" thing I'm not gonna sit through those tedious retards to figure any of this out
     
     All fair points 😂 even though it's a 4 minute clip the point was to show Sven's disgruntleness when he deleted his account and to find out that his data was still retained.
     
     >there's possibly a trail back to your fedi account.
     It has, not a big deal for me.
     I've done nothing illegal on my instance.
     
     But I understand the hesitation.
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     > I've done nothing illegal on my instance.
     > But I understand the hesitation.
     
     It's not about things that are illegal now or things that might become illegal in the future, it's feeding Google. Same shit as using Chrome (through which they now feed their analytics engine the "interest groups" data), you don't want to feed them, or if you don't mind feeding Google (why are you worried about graf but completely blase about Eric Schmidt?), there are a lot of people that do not want to feed Google.
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     > I have ran some SMTP relays before.
     
     Okay, so you get what I mean: it's not shoveling things into the spambox, it's literally silently discarding mail, so you don't even have a way to know unless someone else figures it out and tells you.
     
     > Then don't talk to them, Jeez. Not a hard thing to do. Literally takes seconds no matter the platform.
     
     Let's say this happens several times a day, and they don't tell you in advance, "I'm here to waste time on drama" so there's no way to know who has questions about how the site works and who is trying to provoke you or waste your time. You might start smashing the red button more often and more carelessly so that talking to your friends is not interrupted so often.
     
     > I mean if no one has given any answers (I find that hard to believe) I can easily can give you my reasons if you really care.
     
     So far, it seems to me that the worst thing he could possibly do is block your instance. If being instance-blocked actually caused a problem, then I'd have had one thousand, three hundred and ninety-nine problems.
     
     If you have anything concrete, feel free. I don't think he can do anything that I cannot do (or any other random person on fedi, for that matter), meaning the potential impact of him turning evil is the same as anyone else, and having known him for a long time, I haven't even picked up a hint of malice from the guy, meaning the likelihood of him turning evil is much lower than I'd assume for most people. If anything, I have excessively triggered public blockbots just to make a point (the point being "Don't add an amplification attack vector to your own instance"), so I'm probably a bigger asshole than he is. He's a friend and I don't foresee problems and if there are problems, I don't think the problems would be worse than from any other friend suddenly turning evil.
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     >Are you running any MTAs at present?
     
     I have ran some SMTP relays before.
     
     >Nobody has time to deal with a gaggle of assholes that waste your time shit-stirring. It's not a matter of being butthurt, it's that nobody wants to dedicate their life to arguing on the internet...
     
     Then don't talk to them and maybe block them, Jeez. Not a hard thing to do. Literally takes seconds no matter the platform.
     
     
     >He is a guy running an instance, what's the worst he could do?
     
     I mean if no one has given any answers (I find that hard to believe) I can easily can give you my reasons if you really care.
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     @p @NonPlayableClown @DutchBoomerMan @SarahGation what
     >poking graf and getting dropped from poast
     what happened
     
     >tor
     wearing a ski mask will keep your identity safe but it will also attract a lot of attention
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     > This goes from doing 180 to his rules, hypocrisy, doxxing, defamation, and false reporting instances to datacenters.
     
     Okay, so the worst he could do is only as bad as what anyone else could do. This is kind of my point.
     
     > But your friend is no saint.
     
     Find a saint on this network.
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     >I don't think he can do anything that I cannot do (or any other random person on fedi, for that matter)
     
     Everyone has the capability of doing so, with the tools they can access. However its that restraint that is key. Many times he's failed on this front.
     
     >So far, it seems to me that the worst thing he could possibly do is block your instance.
     
     Most annoying for sure but the worst, which actually pissed me off, was when he threaten someone to not talk to me and threaten them that he will block them if they continue to do so.
     That's just pathetic no matter who it is.
     
     >If you have anything concrete, feel free.
     I've got plenty, confirm one more time and I'll send you my mega complication.
     
     This goes from doing 180 to his rules, hypocrisy, doxxing, defamation, and false reporting instances to datacenters.
     
     Though if you don't care, then there's no need to send.
     I'm not here to tell you who you can be friends with online. Most folks on here are grown men. But your friend is no saint.
     
     There is some validity to the criticism.
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     @0 @vikingkong @NonPlayableClown @SarahGation Shit, I knew I should have sent "Bob" my money instead of sending Francis E. Dec, Esq., a typewriter.
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     @vikingkong @p @NonPlayableClown @SarahGation
     
     It used to be me too, but then I sent "Bob" $35... Since then? Phenomenal power. Instant death over TCP/IP.
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     @p@fsebugoutzone.org @0@gh0st.live @DutchBoomerMan@bunny.cafe @NonPlayableClown@postnstuffds.lol @SarahGation@nicecrew.digital
     Fuck, that's me 😆

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     @p @DutchBoomerMan @fluffy @SarahGation @NonPlayableClown when did screamshitter.club get registered lol
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     @fluffy @DutchBoomerMan @NonPlayableClown @SarahGation
     
     > I've not seen any documents that describe the sort of lists that spies keep on citizens, but it is unlikely to be something I will find well-engineered.
     
     Have a look at the XKeyscore leak.
     
     > Looking briefly, I see that this was a controversy from 2010. I doubt anything has improved.
     
     Indeed. So at any rate, my security posture does not change based on whether anyone notices it: the idea is to make sure that it works no matter who notices it.
     
     > place too much faith in intsec and deeply underemphasize fundamental security practices such as compartmentalization, discretion, and inconspicuous.
     
     Sure. I'm not banking on owning the unbreakable lock, though, just I think people throw up their hands too often. Someone can jimmy the lock or smash a window, but you lock the car door and you don't leave a pile of money in the seat.
     
     > Discussions are often about Tor, about proxies, but you never hear anyone say to buy a second computer.
     
     Oh, absolutely. But someone says "The ISP is selling metadata" and my response to that is "Use Tor". But as I said about the chudbuds.lol hack, that was caused by Claire and her husband using the same computer for gaming and streaming and all of the legal documents and logging into their Frantech account and everything was on one machine. I think it's good to separate those things, keep some live-boot media handy, keep a machine around that is off so you can clean-room it. If you wanna be super paranoid, the three-letter agencies had taken to intercepting electronics shipments from Amazon (but hadn't thought to get the post office or UPS/FedEx to stop *reporting* it, so people saw the package tracking go to the FBI field office and then back to the distribution center and then arrive at their house, which they have no doubt rectified by now): procuring a computer in person on a whim and paying cash avoids that problem.
     
     > And if you read about cases such as the silk road raid,
     
     Accurate, yes: if I recall correctly, due conducted his business on an unlocked laptop at a library and let someone else get physical access to it. There's no amount of tech that will save you from that.
     
     > there's no point in using Tor if your browser has facebook cookies.
     
     You think they need a cookie?
     
     > I looked briefly online but was not able to find any details, so i hope that you can recall a hint that helps me search for more to read about.
     
     Same XKeyscore dump, nearly every proxy service that promised anonymity got you added to the same list as the people that connected to Tor nodes. I am certain this has not changed substantially, and it's definitely worse. For example, you can be certain that riseup.net, offering a proxy service and email and all sorts of non-host-proof services for left-wing radicals to collaborate, has a 90% chance of being a honeypot, and in the off-chance that it's not a honeypot, it's been compromised. Feds have gone out of their way to avoid disclosing this sort of thing: they have been caught fabricating probable cause to avoid revealing the use of Stingrays, that was in the PRISM leaks. The cozy relationship between Facebook/Twitter/etc. and the feds came to light a couple of years ago, and they cried "The government made us do it!" and then somewhat more recently, this turns out to have been a PR maneuver concocted by the government: https://screamshitter.club/rvl/full/835374c1bfa10895663d4d1c94500049823ea928fb7e9c47b01a6b7f8f07c091 . Here's a screenshot with the relevant part, and hey--there's a picture of Drand @ techhub.social, the guy that got caught scraping the shit out of fedi five months ago. What are the odds?
     
     It's not just the US government, either: Germany's BND was slapped by their courts for conducting widespread surveillance on foreign journalists, and then required to stop. Almost immediately after that, the BMBF started funding projects designed to combat "extremism": if you fund a project that does what you want done, that turns out to be enough degrees removed that you don't get in trouble there. So the Libsoftiktok dox, that came from Travis Brown's "Hatespeech Tracker", a project proudly funded by the BMBF ( https://prototypefund.de/en/project/hatespeech-tracker/ ). (Incidentally, when he joined the Nazi Party, Hitler was working for the education ministry and his job was monitoring extremists on behalf of the government.)
     
     I can't tell if I'm on a list, so I can't waste time worrying whether or not I'm on a list for using Tor or nmap or whatever: best to figure out if it matters whether I'm on a list of some sort, and in cases where it matters, assume the worst and hedge. I *can* avoid a bunch of MITM-based tracking done by the ISP if I use Tor, so if someone points out that ISPs are now legally allowed to track people and to monetize that data (and if you let them monetize it, they will, so the government can rely on the ISP keeping every byte it can, and the ISP isn't going to push back against the government too hard, so the government can rely on being able to get anything it asks for), then I say "Tor" because that's the solution to that problem.
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     @p @DutchBoomerMan @NonPlayableClown @SarahGation
     
     I like the point you raise about traffic being different from tiktok/facebook. To be entirely frank, if it were up to me to design such a system, I would probably use that as a first pass myself.
     
     It is speculation on my part, but I suspect that the lists which contain people whose traffic is meaningfully different from tiktok zoomer et al and the lists which contain people who use Tor are not the same lists. I've not seen any documents that describe the sort of lists that spies keep on citizens, but it is unlikely to be something I will find well-engineered.
     
     >but here's something you may not have known: visiting LWN or the LKML archives got people flagged and added to a watchlist by the NSA for a while.
     I certainly was not aware of this.
     Looking briefly, I see that this was a controversy from 2010. I doubt anything has improved.
     
     >it if it were more common.
     I would already be using it if it this were the case.
     
     In the end, I want to emphasize that many individuals of a technical mindset place too much faith in intsec and deeply underemphasize fundamental security practices such as compartmentalization, discretion, and inconspicuous. Discussions are often about Tor, about proxies, but you never hear anyone say to buy a second computer. And if you read about cases such as the silk road raid, those criminals are nearly always done in by a lack of basic security fundamentals. It may be an extreme comparison, but there's no point in using Tor if your browser has facebook cookies.
     
     >if you think a proxy is less suspicious than Tor, because nearly all proxy services are on the list.
     I was not aware of this. If anyone else had said as much to me, I would not have believed it. I looked briefly online but was not able to find any details, so i hope that you can recall a hint that helps me search for more to read about.
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     @p @DutchBoomerMan @NonPlayableClown @SarahGation
     from leaked NSA documents i've read and court indictions i've perused, i hypothesize that you stand out quite a lot using tor. sometimes it is better to not stand out than it is to be technically secure. for this reason, i think your comparison is not fair. after all, nobody will stop you from buying groceries if you have a ski mask on either. ultimately, i'm really only concerned with internet nutcases. and these sorts of people are completely defeated with basic fingerprint protection and a cheap proxy. i do not know your threat model, but i am not even pretending to defend against a nation state level attack - it is much better to avoid it in the first place by being a boring person doing boring people things.
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     > from leaked NSA documents i've read and court indictions i've perused, i hypothesize that you stand out quite a lot using tor.
     
     If it were more common, it wouldn't make anyone stand out. Just mentioning XKeyscore/Echelon/Carnivore/etc. probably has landed people on lists, but here's something you may not have known: visiting LWN or the LKML archives got people flagged and added to a watchlist by the NSA for a while. Maybe Linux isn't on the list any more; cryptocurrency-related activity probably is, but I have bad news if you think a proxy is less suspicious than Tor, because nearly all proxy services are on the list. Expect that you stand out if you have *any* technical interests if your traffic looks meaningfully different from "zoomer on Tiktok" or "boomer on Facebook".
     
     > i do not know your threat model,
     
     I'm not really worried about the internet nutcases (though there is no reason to make anything easy for anyone, they so far seem incompetent), but the government hates encryption and anonymity and if no one exercises the rights, then we don't keep them. So there are three components: (1) being more trouble than I'm worth (sure, NSA supercomputer under the desert: is it worth millions of dollars to crack my keys?), (2) raising the bar that the government would have to jump over in order to destroy civilization as we know it, and (3) I can, so I do.
     
     In the 1990s, Bill Clinton tried to illegalize encryption: would you rather have encryption or not? I'm glad it exists. I suspect that operating FSE raises the expected value of cracking a fellow, so it's better to take whatever steps I can. Look at the chudbuds.lol admin: she probably would have had no trouble keeping her taxes and legal documents and nudes and whatnot on the same computer she used for gaming if she hadn't also been running a fedi node and doing political streams on Twitch. I do not plan to be the weak spot for any service I run.
     
     > i am not even pretending to defend against a nation state level attack
     
     I don't expect that the car is safe from cruise missiles or a 35mm chain gun, but I still wear a seatbelt. The seatbelt's utility in terms of keeping my head from going through the windshield is relevant whether or not the seatbelt's utility is nearly zero for stopping bullets.
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     > what happened
     
     Oh, it's a thing. People attempt to prove that graf is unreasonable by harassing him until they get blocked. I do not know why.
     
     > wearing a ski mask will keep your identity safe but it will also attract a lot of attention
     
     I don't think it's quite the same. It's more like saying "No" when the grocery store cashier asks for your phone number.
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     @sun @NonPlayableClown @fluffy Oh, man, ages ago. 2019-01-31T00:10:56Z according to the whois. You were in the thread when I said I was gonna do it. Lemme let the database query run a minute.
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     @NonPlayableClown @DutchBoomerMan @SarahGation @SaintTuck I don't know who that is, but as of some time last night, I have resumed incentivizing Nice Crew Dot Digital to instance-block my account (which seems preferable to just nuking them; there are people here following people there) and am waiting to hear whether or not they have obliged.
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     >Find a saint on this network.
     
     @SaintTuck 🤓
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     @ThePoastmasterGeneral Go back to Quantico, pedophile.
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     @ThePoastmasterGeneral Tell your admin to instance-block my account and I'll stop.
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     I doubt that any event other than stake burning would make you stop being a faggot
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     faggot
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     @sun @NonPlayableClown @fluffy Ah, the images aren't loading (because FSE isn't there to serve them or redirect them to media.fse) but it looks like SENPAI DIDN'T NOTICE THE THREAD: https://fsebugoutzone.org/notice/1287586 :alexjonescrying2:
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     @NonPlayableClown None of this looks like it passes the level e-drama except a couple of points.
     
     > >Sperg.city being reported to their data center.
     
     There's no context there: that guy didn't go after people's jobs, or dox their families, or try to get KF kicked off the internet. That guy didn't spend his time trying to report people to their hosting companies, he never said that this was a justifiable thing to do. He didn't dox anyone's mom and she didn't get swatted the next day. Just out of nowhere and for no reason, the guy got reported to his hosting company, the sort of thing Ralph would *never* do.
     
     I don't know if graf reported the guy or not, but don't pretend it came out of nowhere, or that the guy that reported everyone to their hosting providers had a right to complain that it was used on him. I don't do that, I don't recommend it, I don't think it's a good idea, but it's not like a guy can kick a another guy in the nuts and then complain if the guy kicks him in the nuts.
     
     > >Threatening users who charge back on a donation
     
     "What should we do with someone that does a fraud chargeback?" is not even a threat. This one boils down to a complaint about mean words on the internet.
     
     I was present for the thing that caused this remark. A chargeback is already enough of a pain, but filing a chargeback and listing "fraud" as the reason is serious. Filing a chargeback, listing "fraud" as the reason, then re-running the charge, then filing another chargeback, then re-running the charge and filing another chargeback, and then repeating the process a hundred times is not something you do by accident. It's pretty clearly an attempt to get a bank account frozen. "graf said mean words on the internet when someone tried to get his bank account frozen." Holy shit, stop the goddamn presses, people need to know about this serious crime!
     
     > >Lying about someone hosting CP
     
     Trollcow's nudes. In order to lie, you have to believe that what you are saying is false. She says she was underage when the photos were taken, and to even get to someone claiming otherwise, you have to go through 680 pages of KiwiFarms bullshit with the slow-ass page load and their shitty phpBB loading 10 posts at a time, 8 of which are people in the thread bickering with other people in the thread about unrelated shit or posting "lol", and that's if you can go straight through without getting stuck waiting for your browser to mind enough XMR for Crunk. I've tried to read KF (I got really interested in the byuu thing, because people kept insisting KF had to be removed from the internet and screaming that no one was allowed to ask questions), and it is painful. And once you go through enough of it, you get to hear that some people have drawn enough red circles and lines over collages of screenshots of posts to convince themselves that she's just trying to remove her nudes from the internet and is not underage in the photos. So you say "That's CP" and like 20 guys go "How are you not up to date on the LORE about everyone we have decided to follow around the internet? What a loser! Meds, schizo!" and then one guy, trying to be helpful, says "I think I saw somewhere that she wasn't underage but I don't remember what page it was on".
     
     This one, like the other two, appears to be presented out of context and exaggerated. To say it's a lie, you've got to say that he knows about both versions--that Trollcow claims she was underage and that other people claim she was not--and you've also got to say that he believes (or at least believed when he made the remark) the people claiming she was over 18 were correct. I don't know how old she was (just that Gleason, ostensibly completely opposed to pornography, remains happy to host something that was presented as revenge porn and is at least revenge porn, if not CP; it is odd how many people that hate graf wash up on gleasonator.com, but that's a separate issue), I don't really care. I do know, though, if someone that isn't familiar with the Trollcow thing, there's not enough context to figure out that it is about the Trollcow thing, and that there's another key piece of this information missing: people on both Kiwi Farms and alogs.space spend hours and hours declaring that Poast is full of CP and is a "pedophile network", because drawings of anime girls are real to people that do not .
     
     > "this is what bot and his friends do to me btw"
     
     He's right. What do you want?
     
     I haven't seen anything new. Most of the complaints are about mean words graf said on the internet, and it rubs me the wrong way for people to cry foul over mean words graf said on the internet while simultaneously claiming that graf takes mean words on the internet too seriously. Every complaint that I looked at seems to be presented selectively, devoid of context: "he punched a guy in the face!" while omitting that the guy was drunk and brandishing a knife. Most of them seem like a stretch: "If you're gonna talk to that guy, untag me or I'll block you" does not seem to me to be threatening people that talk to you, it seems like the same type of shit that prompted me to write the Iron Dome MRF.
     
     There are things graf has done that I disagree with (and of course plenty of things that I have done that he doesn't like) but, aside from the e-drama, you've presented a series of actions that, even where I disagree, seem justified. This is exactly why I am so very tired of hearing about this stuff: it's almost always like that. I've heard people reasonably criticize the guy (you can reasonably criticize anyone) but I haven't ever heard a single reason for the "sound the alarms!" bullshit, I haven't heard a reason to single him out. When I talk to him on IRC, he's in there wrenching on the DB, he's trying to fix the Matrix server, he's trying to make the CDN faster, he's found a deal on dedis, and then he shitposts on fedi and eight people declare him the antichrist, and I have never seen a good reason to single him out, I have never seen anyone explain why they were hounding him the second he arrived on fedi (which means that anything he has done *since* getting here is irrelevant), or why they have such a huge problem with him that they're willing to stretch claims well past credibility.
     
     Not to say that you are in on it, and I can understand not liking the guy (I think he's pretty cool), but either there is a large number of lunatics with a fixation on him (one that pre-dates Poast) and this is driving some mass psychosis ("graf derangement syndrome" :trumpgendou:), or, in the more likely case, there's a motivation that people are not willing to disclose in public.
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     Post 1/2
     
     >Sperg.city being reported to their data center.
     https://youtu.be/dSHkSY3j4Lw
     
     >Doxing
     >Lying about me doxing at the time.
     >Said I was a swatter, and proceeds to dox himself.
     https://nicecrew.digital/@graf@poa.st/posts/AbibnC5ukLbBpBEqfY
     >Lying about someone hosting CP
     >Threatening users who charge back on a donation
     >Threatening those who talk to me
     >Threatening those who joke about him
     >Manipulating poast user accounts, by removing their blocks, or changing their handles without their concent.
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     Part 2/2
     
     >Lying about being defederated
     
     That fits most of it. Might have a duplicate in here too.
     
     But that being said. Here's why I don't trust him other than the examples you portray "He's friends with Undu therefore pedo" or whatever bot says.
     You can be friends with him, whatever, but like I said he's far from innocent.
     
     Anyways if he post something stupid I will make fun of it 😜 like most folks on here.
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     @NonPlayableClown @DutchBoomerMan @SarahGation
     
     > Well P well I do not condone doxxing (as explained in my ToS as long as the user didn't freely shared their own information publicly) and especially swatting (also in the ToS/ illegal activity).
     
     Yeah, I'm saying that if it happens, it's not really just people being mean on the internet, that's a real thing.
     
     > but likewise don't explain to me that he's in the full right.
     
     Well, you tell me "Oh, all this shit happened" and I say "So I hear, but I have seen the opposite." Until I see something new, that's where I am.
     
     > if you think shooting a guy just because he called you a cuck for the millionth time,
     
     See, that's the thing: I have seen him instance-block people for manufacturing drama, and I've seen him do it in cases where I would not have done it, but I have not seen a real disproportionate response. I see people bundle "knee-jerk instance-block" in with "called the NCMEC on the guy that uploaded CP" and they try to draw a line between the two things.
     
     > So I'll ask this one more time do you want to see the complication or not?
     
     If you have seen (that is, you were present during an event, not hearsay) something I haven't, and the complaint is something bigger instance-blocking and mean words, I'll look at it. The S:N ratio is bad enough that I've been basically done with the topic until there's a primary source; the hack happened and nothing new came out, no proof of anything. I get you've got your opinion, but I've heard what people say and I've seen what I've seen and surely we could come up with something better to talk about.
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     Well P well I do not condone doxxing (as explained in my ToS as long as the user didn't freely shared their own information publicly) and especially swatting (also in the ToS/ illegal activity).
     
     >So, you can keep telling me "Oh, he's not trustworthy!" but I'm not going to ignore everything I have seen over the course of years just because some people on the internet make the same series of non-specific accusations.
     
     Never said to not be friends with the dude. That's your life choice, but likewise don't explain to me that he's in the full right.
     
     Sure getting trolled sucks, getting swatted and hacked is unforgivable, but when you participate in these activities it makes me give no sympathy.
     
     Since we are speaking hypothetically, if you think shooting a guy just because he called you a cuck for the millionth time, than that's fucked dude.
     
     >I've seen people make shit up, and then I've seen people go along with the fabrications, either because they were gullible or because they don't care that it's made up. Whatever the source of it is, it cannot be due to anything that happened on fedi, because people were already on this shit when he showed up. I am not stupid enough to ignore my eyes because I have heard rumors and suspicions.
     
     So I'll ask this one more time do you want to see the complication or not?
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     >Okay, so the worst he could do is only as bad as what anyone else could do. This is kind of my point.
     
     There's a difference between "could" have done and "has" done.
     
     Anyone can kill a man on this earth.
     But what separates us from the murderers is preforming the deed.
     That's my point dude.
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     @NonPlayableClown @DutchBoomerMan @SarahGation I have seen the people that claim he has done terrible things to them. Every case I have seen was, like the ACCollective journo, reasonable: he asks me to help him pull shit out of the log files because someone tried uploading CP, people swatted his mom, tried to get him arrested, and they conveniently leave facts like that out of the complaint. If there was a case where he did this sort of thing without extraordinary provocation, all of those "graf is the worst!!!" people would be complaining about that.
     
     Now, I'm aware that there are people that will *claim* that they've been unjustly persecuted. I've seen it: someone shows up to harass randbot (who is a complete dipshit) by signing up for a throwaway FSE account and using it to create one post that contained three images, all of which contained his five-year-old son. I get questions about that ban and Eris shows up and replies to me with "I can't believe you banned him for posting these images!" and attaches some the images so of course I drop him and I don't know who Eris is so I send Crunk a DM telling him that I blocked that account and asking if that sort of thing is permitted there, so that I know whether to leave the account instance-blocked or not. (Crunk, of course, completely ignores the DM, because everyone's out to get KF and just saying "Yeah, we allow that" or "No, we do not, I'll tell him to stop" creates an unacceptable risk: when KF is in trouble everyone needs to band together because freedom of speech is under assault by bathtub HRT vendors, but really simple requests like "Hey, I need to know if I should handle this kind of thing on my end or if you will be handling it on yours" are ignored. But that's a digression; graf's been much more trustworthy and even when we disagree, he says what he thinks rather than ghosting.) Then, for years afterwards, I watch Eris say "I HAVE BEEN STIFLED AND OPPRESSED FOR LITERALLY NO REASON", I watched him threaten to lynch people, threaten to burn Claire's house down in a post where he included her home address, etc. I've seen the same pattern from a lot of other people, I've seen the same people make claims that graf has dropped them for "literally no reason".
     
     Every time I killed an account from FSE's side, I had a good reason, and as far as Poast goes, every incident I have seen has had a reasonable justification. It's not always the same thing I would do in the same situation, but the response has never been disproportionate or unreasonable in even one of the incidents that I have seen, a lot of which I participated in.
     
     So, you can keep telling me "Oh, he's not trustworthy!" but I'm not going to ignore everything I have seen over the course of years just because some people on the internet make the same series of non-specific accusations. As covered in this post and repeatedly in other posts in this thread, I've seen people make shit up, and then I've seen people go along with the fabrications, either because they were gullible or because they don't care that it's made up. Whatever the source of it is, it cannot be due to anything that happened on fedi, because people were already on this shit when he showed up. I am not stupid enough to ignore my eyes because I have heard rumors and suspicions. If there was anything concrete besides "Oh, I don't feel my instance-block was justified", I would have heard it by now, but the rumors and suspicions persist. I'm sick of hearing them. Solomon Asch demonstrated ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_experiments ) that Goebbels was correct: people will believe a lie reported often enough.
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     @crunklord420 @NonPlayableClown It's difficult to get you to produce words that aren't bitchy sarcasm or a complaint about a DDoS.
     
     > bruh is on like a haswell crying it takes like 6 seconds to pow.
     
     This honkey doesn't know how to keep a Tor service from getting DDoS'd without PoW. I am pretty certain that you know that Headless Chrome is firmly planted in the skiddy toolkit, and that anyone willing to pay actual money for a DDoS is almost certainly able to get enough GCE/EC2 computes to execute JavaScript. If this is your solution, you're gonna get hosed again when they figure it out. You're already lazy-loading the images, just tack a step onto the front of that. It shouldn't be necessary to even see the stupid PoW page.
     
     > buy a new computer
     
     Imagine thinking "words on a goddamn page", something that was almost zero-latency in the 80s, should be a CPU-intensive problem for the client in anno domini 1980+44, or that words on a goddamn page ought to require JavaScript to begin with.
     
     I suppose you don't use a phone or a laptop very often and either you expect the people attempting to read words on a goddamn page not to use a portable device either, or the smell of burning genitals doesn't bother you. If you think a water-cooled AlienWare gaming rig is necessary for looking at words on a goddamn page, it's no wonder you insist that no one could possibly actually use a DevTerm.
     
     "If you don't have an RTX 4090, get the fuck off my catty gossip website."
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     @NonPlayableClown @p bruh is on like a haswell crying it takes like 6 seconds to pow.
     
     buy a new computer
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     >I don't know if graf reported the guy or not, but don't pretend it came out of nowhere, or that the guy that reported everyone to their hosting providers had a right to complain that it was used on him. I don't do that, I don't recommend it, I don't think it's a good idea, but it's not like a guy can kick a another guy in the nuts and then complain if the guy kicks him in the nuts.
     
     So by that logic because Colonel J posted videos of Graf regarding Ralph including his dox that means Graf is justified in defeding FSE and calling your datacenter to report you for harassment?
     Didn't you got the FBI called on you because of a dipshit user?
     
     >the sort of thing Ralph would *never* do.
     
     No he has and he's a PoS because of it, but doesn't mean 1 bad apple screws an entire instance.
     
     >Trollcow's nudes. In order to lie, you have to believe that what you are saying is false. She says she was underage when the photos were taken, and to even get to someone claiming otherwise, you have to go through 680 pages of KiwiFarms bullshit with the slow-ass page load and their shitty phpBB loading 10 posts at a time, 8 of which are people in the thread bickering with other people in the thread about unrelated shit or posting "lol", and that's if you can go straight through without getting stuck waiting for your browser to mind enough XMR for Crunk.
     
     Ok if that's the case I'll add @crunklord420 so he's informed about it. If he wants to he can coordinate with you and take it down.
     
     >you've presented a series of actions that, even where I disagree, seem justified.
     
     While Im glad to hear you won't stoop to his level (though I don't agree how your handling the NCD situation) , I still don't consider the other points justified.
     -Him calling me a swatter is not justified
     -Him messing with his own user data information is not justified
     -Him removing a user's block list in his instance without their consent and then defederating that user's alt is not justified (especially to someone they once considered a friend fyi).
     
     Crying about Bot and company can only go far for sympathy points.
     
     And btw P I'm pretty you can look at these messages if you want to look at the full threads if you want.