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What, though, is the best punishment for a sadist?
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@c no, their punishment must be more subtle than that.
Remember - what are the goals of punishment?
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maybe this
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@sickburnbro @c
The purpose of punishment is to either entirely remove undesirable elements, render them incapable of causing problems or as a warning to others to avoid doing undesirable things.
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@teknomunk @c it can also be to force an individual to come to terms they have avoided.
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@teknomunk @c if they have caused harm which has been incremental, or the window of their crimes is such that they have tried to pretend it isn't a big deal, or their fault.
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@teknomunk @c the strongest proof of a just law is opening the eyes of the criminal.
This is why the current justice system is so in love with incarceration - they want this.
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@c @teknomunk @sickburnbro You offer a chance to repent because that's the proper thing to do. That doesn't mean we have to forgive people in a legal sense when they do abominable things. Even a child abuser deserves to sincerely repent before God before he's executed.
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When it comes to the freaks who cross the death penalty line, I don't see any point in trying to make them feel bad about what they've done. Even if there is a God, I'd want to make sure people who wronged my peers to such a sick degree go to judgment without a real opportunity to repent. Make that nigger burn forever.
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@c @teknomunk Yes, there are certainly crimes where killing the criminal is appropriate and just.
Keeping a criminal alive has costs; they might do a crime again. This will re-injure the parties that they first hurt because it will shame them for submitting to injust system
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@c @BowsacNoodle @teknomunk The point is to show your submission to God's law. To not let the opportunity to repent is saying you are the final judge.
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Why? I disagree. Should every human being no matter how evil and sick be welcomed to heaven? Is the goal to forgive every evil act committed by assuming that everyone is just confused until they're later not confused?
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@c @teknomunk @sickburnbro No. It's to give people the chance to make the decision themselves if they choose to. It is being more fair than they deserve, but it is fitting with Christian morality because salvation and redemption are something none of us are worthy or deserving of anyway.
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@BowsacNoodle @c @teknomunk @sickburnbro >You offer a chance to repent because that's the proper thing to do.
Do their victims get a chance to do anything for themselves? "Proper," "proper" is for people on your side and those who agree to the rules and follow them to the best of their ability and within reason.
Improper people do not deserve "proper."
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@Owl @BowsacNoodle @c @teknomunk note poa.st/objects/abdbd8ff-6884-4044-b2aa-bdb0d3298f53
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@sickburnbro @BowsacNoodle @c @teknomunk I don't submit to those rules, I live in a practical and mortal place of existence.
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@Owl @sickburnbro @c @teknomunk For now.
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I didn't mean to suggest that you go out of your way to prevent people from repenting. What I meant was that it shouldn't be your responsibility to ensure they have endlessly ample time to make amends on a spiritual level. That was my screw up on wording. Still, that logic would mean that you should do everything in your power to not kill enemies but capture them, right? We're at war but we need to try to take everyone alive. Strategy changes, becomes insane. It's foolish to try to be mommy daycare for the world like that, especially when we're talking about child rapists and the people responsible for trying to genocide Whites.
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@c @teknomunk @BowsacNoodle Correct, giving people years to rot away in prison in order to get them to "reform" is disgusting.
It's specifically an attempt to try to patch over other failures to put people on the right path before they commit a crime.
In the US it is an attempt to avoid executing thousands of black criminals.
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@c @teknomunk @sickburnbro Yeah there's a distinction. Say you capture a prisoner in a war caught redhanded doing an unspeakable act. If the law says he's to be executed the next day at noon, that's that. Offer him a priest/pastor and the chance to repent. You don't delay execution hundreds of days until you stonewall him into (probably insincerely) saying yes. People can die in combat because it's a war. That is different from a criminal caught doing "execution worthy" things.
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@BowsacNoodle @sickburnbro @c @teknomunk I see more evidence of demonic activity than I do any kind of interference from a being that claims to love us but sticks us on this rock and refuses to do fuck-all about it. Somebody has to do something.
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@Owl @BowsacNoodle @c @teknomunk If you view life as a punishment it might be hard to see evidence from one who sees it as a gift
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@Owl @teknomunk @c That's not a very racist answer, I would expect better Owl.
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@sickburnbro @teknomunk @c And yet recidivism is still on the rise. Nobody learns their lesson.
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@Owl @BowsacNoodle @c @teknomunk So life has no meaning?
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@sickburnbro @BowsacNoodle @c @teknomunk Life is neither punishment nor gift. It's not mediated by anyone or anything or any cosmic force beyond the immediate boundaries.
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@Owl @sickburnbro @c @teknomunk It's good you recognize demonic activity. I can't answer why God doesn't smite evil with divine lightning regularly, besides condescending answers that might sound like copes, but I can say that I'm glad I had the chance for redemption before such a thing would have happened to me.
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@Griffith @teknomunk @Owl @sickburnbro @c You get a chance to enjoy it while it's here and make good use of it if possible.
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@sickburnbro @teknomunk @BowsacNoodle @Owl @c it is a punishment. We literally were sent to Earth as a punishment for eating the apple. We’re supposed to go to Hell but God forgave us. I’m not sure where the “gift” comes in, you just say that all the time.
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@Owl @BowsacNoodle @c @teknomunk belief, obviously.
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@BowsacNoodle @sickburnbro @c @teknomunk What makes you so sure you're actually all saved and sanctified?
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@dictatordave @c @teknomunk @sickburnbro It can be a bench trial for all I care, or more of a declaration of sentence with a singular chance for the criminal to make a statement. The point is the legitimacy of rule of law and judgement through it rather than having lawlessness abound. It can be rather informal for all I care, but the offered chance to ask for redemption acknowledges that God is the final judge and we're not taking that from Him. For the same reason that it is not ideal to use corporal punishment when angry, it's better to give at least a short window and perhaps allow a third party to handle the execution vs allowing "corporal pedo killer" who caught said individual in the act to take out his own anger and vengeance. Psychic/spiritual reasons.
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@BowsacNoodle @c @teknomunk @sickburnbro i see no reason to give a rapist much less a child rapist any sort of trial
summary execution is the only solution for results
as a tax paying citizen i dont consent to funding them living and i dont care what some shouting pedo lovers think, they should be executed for being adjacent to such behavior
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@sickburnbro @teknomunk @BowsacNoodle @Owl @c Jesus said so and that is good enough for me
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@c @teknomunk @dictatordave @sickburnbro We don't know how God handles things the fact that we will be judged. I do believe that when we die we'll be given what we truly want— God will ask us, and our soul will answer.
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Idk, I think you guys should just change the rules to say that there's a brief period when you die where you can still repent at the gate. Gets rid of all the accidental-deaths-to-hell-before-repenting pipeline but I suppose it also means people don't have to go on blind faith that it's all real during life so maybe it's not worth a rewrite.
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@DEERBLOOD @c oohhhhh I like it.
that is some good thinking.
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@sickburnbro @c Make them write a bunch of Thank You letters
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@King_Noticer @c @teknomunk @dictatordave @sickburnbro Sorry for the huge mp3. This is one of my favorite sermons, and It's from Matt Walsh before he decided to sign with Daily Wire and it's simply a a solid talk and relevant to the topic.
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@BowsacNoodle @c @teknomunk @dictatordave @sickburnbro I just hope I want the right thing :akkoweary:
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@King_Noticer @c @teknomunk @dictatordave @sickburnbro Lemme know what you think of it. I think it's very solid.
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@BowsacNoodle @c @teknomunk @dictatordave @sickburnbro Thank
I will consume it after I have a shower
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@BowsacNoodle @c @teknomunk @dictatordave @sickburnbro You got it boss
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@dictatordave @King_Noticer @c @teknomunk @sickburnbro Can and should do both IMO. I believe it's important to be around fellow believers physically whenever possible.
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@King_Noticer @BowsacNoodle @c @teknomunk @sickburnbro the problem behind matt's point, and i do agree with him, is that the western secular govs will imprison us, and have made laws specifically against us, and they wont relent
the west is run by godless heathens that wont let us deus vault so what can you do besides prepare and do like you're told to, pray in your inner most room, you dont need to go to a building like matt suggests
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@BowsacNoodle @King_Noticer @c @teknomunk @sickburnbro i dunno, clergy response teams and gladio have enlightened me about the catholic authority a little more than the slack i'd care to cut them
in general though i think people should have some faith in their lives of some sort, something to be a moral compass other than commies of various flavors
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@Owl @boburtle @BowsacNoodle @sickburnbro @c
If caught in the act, I agree.
If caught after the fact, trial to demonstrate guilt.
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@Owl @BowsacNoodle @c @teknomunk @sickburnbro If their crimes are so severe that the circumstances cry out for Holy vengeance then a swift death in the public square should be delivered. Men that rape children or women that psychologically torture children into wanting to kill themselves should get a quick trial and the rope. The point of the death penalty is to both demonstrate the power of the sovereign and to demonstrate meaningful kinship with the common people you wield power over. The hanging is how European man has done that for hundreds of years
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@boburtle @BowsacNoodle @c @teknomunk @sickburnbro I'm sorry, but fuck all that trial and redemption shit. If someone's dead to rights guilty you should be allowed to grease them on the spot.
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@boburtle @Owl @c @teknomunk @sickburnbro If it's legal per the state, sure. I don't think it should be a thing we rely on. Half the reason I prefer things to through a court is to show legitimacy of the legal and justice system rather than allow rumors of injustice to poison people. Degenerates are often leftists so it will look like you're targeting political enemies. This is an awfully niche point to care so much for, because if we actually had a functioning justice system we wouldn't have to worry about these people abusing and running wild.
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@Owl @BowsacNoodle @c @teknomunk @sickburnbro "Justifiable homicide" has been a legal category for a very long time, most lynchings commited by White men fell into that category. There's already a legal precedent for everything we're talking about. The only reason pedos don't get their just desserts anymore is the wasp middle management class that used to give the govt stamp of approval to lynchings was replaced in the jewish "long march through the institutions" after vietnam. Demographics are everything. Wasps can be vicious steely eyed bastards in war but they have a sense of justice that balances it out. When wasps had power in the beurocratic organs of govt the spirit of the law transcended the letter of the law. Demographics are everything. Once White men have power again the public lynching will be legitimized again
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