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   Chumchum Tumtum (fcktheworld587@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 04:07:30 JST Chumchum Tumtum

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   • fyho

   @Humpleupagus @fyho bro, if you'd really like, I can point you in the direction of the knowledge necessary to start this discussion, and we can pick this discussin up after you've spent a solid few months reading. I'm not gonna sit here and explain it all to you, because I serve to gain nothing. I know that you are demonstrably wrong in your lines of thinking, across numerous disciplines, simply through what you've put forward here

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 04:07:28 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     I'll take this as an admission that you're retarded.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 04:27:02 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     > Me: Gays form an identity around being gay and heterosexuals don't....
     
     > ChumChum: You're wrong. You need to read more. Gays form an identity around being gay and heterosexual don't....
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     Chumchum Tumtum (fcktheworld587@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 04:27:03 JST Chumchum Tumtum

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     • fyho

     @Humpleupagus @fyho your failure to understand something does not make it any less correct

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 04:45:05 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Aren't you just appealing to people's prejudices with this quote, including those necessary to protect your own ego, rather than providing a sound argument in refutation of my position? I know it probably makes you feel good to post that, but I see no other need for the quote in this context.
     
     Tl;dr You're seriously mental.
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     Chumchum Tumtum (fcktheworld587@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 04:45:06 JST Chumchum Tumtum

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     @Humpleupagus @fyho

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 04:56:27 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     I've aleady done all of that. I have three degrees including a graduate degree. LMFAO.
     
     You're a fucking retard. Kill yourself, nigger.
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     Chumchum Tumtum (fcktheworld587@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 04:56:28 JST Chumchum Tumtum

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     @Humpleupagus @fyho I am seriously mental, but, in this instance, I'm correct. Take some neurology classes, some psych classes(both neuro and soc psych), learn some primatology, learn some history(not just European), some sociology, do a bit of anthro study, then, if you've understood the above, adequately, start into some queer theory and history - then, if you've properly understood all of that, I can explain why your view points are misinformed, but probably won't have to

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 04:58:19 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     I'm from California. 😭
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     Doc (d0c40r0@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 04:58:20 JST Doc

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     • fyho
     >he’s done queer theory and history
     ngmi
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     Chumchum Tumtum (fcktheworld587@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:01:22 JST Chumchum Tumtum

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     @Humpleupagus @fyho you don't, actually. If you do, none of them are in relevant fields, or you took your courses like 60 years ago.

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:02:40 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • fyho
     Not understanding conversational implicature is a sign of low intelligence.
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     Chumchum Tumtum (fcktheworld587@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:02:41 JST Chumchum Tumtum

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     @Humpleupagus @fyho cool... Relevance?

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:05:54 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • fyho
     Homosexuality is about sex. Simple as. What qualufies as "sex" is very different for a kantian than a materialist. You don't have to touch a dick to have sex. It can be purely ideal. So you can call that attraction if you want. It doesn't disprove my position.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:05:55 JST djsumdog

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     I am seriously mental, but, in this instance, I’m correct

     You haven’t really provided an argument. I think Humphie has some errors in his logic: being gay doesn’t mean you have to have sex with men. You just have to be sexually attracted to men. You can have that as a man (real man) and not fuck dudes and still be a homosexual (you’re just not acting on it, or “out”).

     Now, can sexual attraction be immoral? You might say “they can’t help being attracted to men. We should punish them.” Okay, let’s go with that. Say you have a person who’s attracted to a 12 year old girl … and only 12 year old girls. Is that immoral? Well they can’t help being attracted to them. It’s not a strawman. It’s a legit argument.

     Morality is about society creating limits on what feels good, to push culture into things that are of benefit/fitness. Why has homosexuality been considered wrong? They literally cannot reproduce. Society cannot grow with pure homosexuals.

     Take some neurology classes, some psych classes

     At this point in time, all science is this space is justification for a new moral behavior. Science is (and really, always has been) a religion. It gives birth to an ideology that satisfied some socialite fitness requirements at some time. We’ll see how these most recent moral beliefs and changes pan out. If you see the Middle East rise and the West continue to decline .. I mean there are a lot of factors, but you cannot rule out the “pride” in one’s sexuality as one of the contributing factors.

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:07:36 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     I'm from fag central. You are not. That makes me the expert. 😒
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     Chumchum Tumtum (fcktheworld587@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:07:37 JST Chumchum Tumtum

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     @Humpleupagus @fyho from different country, dude says that me not understanding his mentioning of being from California is indicative of low intelligence. Cool, dude. You're very very clearly a fucking moron

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     n3f_X :neon_devilblob: :debian: (n3f_x@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:08:30 JST n3f_X :neon_devilblob: :debian:

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     lol put the dick away and calm down humpleupagus
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:12:07 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • fyho
     ChumChum explaining how shoving a dick in his butt was a predetermined outcome of neurological processes.
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     koropokkur (koropokkur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:12:08 JST koropokkur

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     @fcktheworld587 @Humpleupagus @fyho biology 101:
     xy= male
     xx= female
     xxy,xyy, etc...=abnormal genetic mutation (sterile)
     
     psych 101:
     oedipus complex- Freud
     electra complex- Jung
     faggots and trannies have acute psychoses of one of the above and deny reality for fantasy.
     
     you dont need a neurology or comparitive anatomy class for an understanding of synapses, neurons, Na, Ca, K, Cl channels to recognize that a grown man dressing like a woman is Not a woman.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:18:25 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • fyho
     A kid who has seen porn for the first time has lost / gained something, so yes, they are ideally no longer a virgin.
     
     Again in the case of "being gay," it is a way of comporting oneself to the world, which is ideal. This has been my position the entire time, so nothing has changed.
     
     Go look at my post re "are you gay when you're not having sex?" You answered "yes." That only proves my point, which is that being gay is ideal ("id" is also the root of id-entity).
     
     P.S. I also just solved the Incel dilemma. You're welcome.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:18:26 JST djsumdog

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     eh, that's a big word change. That's like saying every kid who watches porn in no longer a virgin. But it's also not a useful distinction in this context.
     
     The entire "pride" in this context is weird, and it's best shown to be weird by the old Norm Macdonald bit, "My kid just graduated Harvard. He had a 4.0 GPA, is going to saw school and he sucks dicks. I'm so proud of him. He gets fucked in the ass. Proud."
     
     Pride in being gay (or black or white or anything you didn't achieve) is fucked weird. Pride has always ever been about normalizing something that, at one time, failed a cultural fitness requirement.
     
     It's not about feeling good in achievement, it's feeling good in what use to be morally unacceptable behavior. By it's very nature, it then requires other people accept that behavior as being morally acceptable. It's pretty subversive in what it's seeking to achieve.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:22:36 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Did I say anything about societal collapse? That's not even in my fucking argument. Strawman much? I think the gay has ruined your brain.
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     Chumchum Tumtum (fcktheworld587@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:22:37 JST Chumchum Tumtum

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     @Humpleupagus @fyho I'm in Canada. Being queer is just normal, culturally, for the most part - and the people up here are, generally speaking, much safer, happier, and enjoy a higher standard of living than in the US, despite having a significantly lower annual income, per capita. Giving queer people the same rights as straight people has not lead to societal collapse, despite all of the homophobic propaganda we receive from America stressing that it will. Dunno, bud. Sure sounds like you.

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:28:03 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • fyho
     I actually think you and I agree on the central point about what being gay is, but I do have a habit of using a lot of rhetoric, including demonstrative rhetoric, which can cause confusion at times.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:28:04 JST djsumdog

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     I'm not sure if @fcktheworld587 still has me muted or just doesn't respond to me anymore because I make difficult and challenging arguments he doesn't know what to do with.
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     histoire ??☢️?? (histoire@pleroma.skyshanty.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:29:14 JST histoire ??☢️??

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     @Humpleupagus @djsumdog @fyho @fcktheworld587
     
     I'll personally solve your incel dilemma ;)
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:29:14 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • histoire ??☢️??
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     Hawt! 😍
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     AlabasterBrick ?‍☠️ (alabasterbrick@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:30:55 JST AlabasterBrick ?‍☠️

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     • fyho
     Mufuggin rhetorical niggas
     Psshhh
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jun-2023 05:34:18 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     If being gay is an attraction, I'm only gay when I watch Fight Club. Hit me harder daddy! 😏
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     LoliHat (lolihat@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 13:04:21 JST LoliHat

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     @lolipunk3069 @rlier23 @Humpleupagus @fcktheworld587 @fyho
     
     Don't forget the False Dilemma Fallacy.
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     lolipunk2069 (lolipunk3069@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 13:04:22 JST lolipunk2069

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     • salty_apollyon
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     @rlier23 @fcktheworld587 @Humpleupagus @fyho
     Damn near every shitlib argument boils down to the same 5 fallacies:
     1) Motte and Bailey [I.E. blatantly lying. Arguing for an unreasonable position, then when called out on it, pretending to hold to a more seemingly-reasonable position for defense.]
     2) Appeal to Emotion. [So many shitlib arguments are emotional/empathy grifting and manipulation]
     3) Appeal to Chronology/Progress/Evolution ["It's the current year!"]
     4) Appeal to fake "experts". [Appealing to academic frauds as "experts" whom blatantly fabricate data.]
     5) Ad Hominem. ["You're a bigot/x-ist/x-ophobic if you don't agree with me!"]
     
     In short, shitlibs have no arguments.
     
     Even the most midwit of Christians at least attempts to put forth an argument for positions on morality, whether it be by divine fiat, arguing from a standpoint of virtue ethics, describing the practical consequences of moral failings, etc...
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     salty_apollyon (rlier23@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 13:04:23 JST salty_apollyon

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     @fcktheworld587 @Humpleupagus @fyho so where is your logic then faggot?