@terryenglish I mean, I don't disagree, considering that "FLOSS" tries to be neutral between free software and "open source" (effectively trying to be neutral between proprietary degeneracy and freedom) and how the kernel, Linux is proprietary software.
@r000t Macs have all the disadvantages of Windows and Linux plus cost twice the price. I never understood why someone would buy one unless they had very specific software requirements that are only on macOS. @bot
You’ve yet to prove the price tag is higher for something comparable. But also it’s really well made, looks and feels super nice, the customer service is second to none, they go above and beyond to make you happy, it does everything I need it to… etc.
Well, you pay for the OS too, not to mention great screen, speakers, amazing battery life, fast as fuck memory and storage... Getting a laptop that has a screen and speakers comparable to a macbook ends up costing nearly the same
@bot@terryenglish@r000t until you accidentally break it by spilling liquid into the keyboard and they want nearly the full purchase price to fix it.
speaking from experience here sadly.
i've had several macs in the past. they are lovely but i cant do that anymore :)
i finally built a tower, so i dont have to worry about spilling on it, but more importantly eat at the table instead of at the computer. which solved that problem once and for all.
but yeah macs are neat in the respects you mentioned.
Do you expect any other company to tell you differently? Or should they just swap out parts one by one and mail it back to you each time? Then deal with your lawsuit when it fails in a month from the liquid damage? It just is what it is.
AppleCare+ covers it with a small deductible. That’s just a fact. You have to pay for it, just as you would any additional coverage for accidental damage.
ditto with the screens, they are great. excellent media consumption and production machines. with all the fuzz about gaming, i might get one. friend have been taunting me about not getting one when i could
@Kirino@terryenglish@Tony@bot@ringo You know what's weird? When I did escalations for Comcast, the abuse didn't get to me all that bad, mostly because if I already had a call graded for that week, I could just give it back.
What finally made me quit was some old boomer being unable to get to our remote control tool because his Google was stuck in the Russian language... and so was he. The guy was stupid *and* a boomer *and* there was one hell of a language barrier.
For actual problems with our end of shit, I could pull amazing solutions out of my ass literally all day long, and I was told to *stop* because then people would expect other agents to be absolute gods on the backend.
@Tony@terryenglish@MischievousuTomatosu@bot I mean you can just put Windows on a Mac. This thread is literally about whether or not my machine is more free/libre than a Mac, and in reality they are equally free/libre for the simple reason that Linux et al. run just fine on Macs.
Until MacOS sauce is published (only certain parts of it are) those are just promises from Apple that may or may not reflect reality, now or at some point in the future
Even for the parts that are, since you cannot (readily) build MacOS yourself to run as a replacement for the OEM build, you have to again take their word that their build used the source they gave you, with no patches or changes.
A lot of simple automation options. Their cloud platform replaces Microsoft word for all purposes and their paint software is decent, they have decent video editing tools, ect. Also, so does Mac and they are easily compatible.
When you work escalations/support you are to do a set amount of work, no more and no less.
If you go above and beyond they start asking to speak to you specifically, word gets around that "x company will do y-z for you" even if it's a one off thing.
I have plenty of stories of working support but they're all pretty doxabke
I'll say this though, the funniest calls are always boomers calling up, complaining they can't connect to a website and then asking if they're meant to be connected to the WiFi
@bot Sunlight is the best disinfectant. I know that an absolute fuckton of people *do* monitor these repositories, and there are large financial and social incentives to discovering (especially maliciously placed) backdoors/vulnerabilities. There's incentives if you're an asshole, there's incentives if you've still got morals. So knowing the code isn't itself siphoning data off somewhere is pretty well covered.
What's left is making sure that my build uses that source. Portage does this every step of the way. Remember, I use Gentoo btw so all compilation happens on-device. This also means I can insert additional protections against exploitation, as well as benefit from protections inherent from having different binaries than everyone else. @terryenglish@MischievousuTomatosu@Tony
@bot@terryenglish@Tony@r000t you can inspect network traffic. but anyway apple has history of not complying with law enforcement and shit snd no privacy scandal ever came from them, and even if so linux is cool and all but i always have the thought in the back of my head of how i want the reliable and easy to use macbook air..
I think Apple is about to add some software that checks to see if phones have CSAM, so technically…if they are peeking to see if you have k!dd!3 p0rn so they can alert the authorities, then they definitely can read your device or icloud files.
I know there was pushback, so not aware of the current status of this issue.
“Instead of scanning iCloud for illegal content, Apple’s tech will locally flag inappropriate images for kids. And adults are getting an opt-in nudes filter too.”
I assume they just know literally everything you’re doing, like everything. But it’s like the recent ig fb thing, these “people” are babyrapers that cater to pedophiles.
Because you had standard warranty coverage, not AppleCare+. There isn’t standard coverage that covers accidental damage, esp water damage, anywhere in the world. That’s a fantasy.
@bot >Um yeah, if you spill water all over your laptop, it probably needs to be replaced. What kind of crappy laptop breaks from a bit of water spilled over it?
I don't spill water on computers, but if I somehow spilled some water on my librebooted thinkpad R400, it'd just drain though the drain holes.
@bot >Apple doesn’t spy on your files, even your cloud saves are encrypted. Appel DOES spy on the sheep - they just say that they don't and the sheep believe them.
Even assuming that the remote backup encryption is perfect and you can't tell anything from the files uploaded to the server - that doesn't make a difference, as apple doesn't need to even look there - their proprietary malware OS that's also spyware reports what is profitable to know and in case they need any extra information (say the encryption key for the remote backup), apple can just add an OS "update" via their universal backdoor that can be used to do absolutely anything they want.
They didn’t actually, they walked it back, and the effect is no different than uploading cp to google drive or whatever because it only applies to stuff going to iCloud.
Yeah, I’m sure linux, which is backed and funded by massive multinational globohomo mega corporations is totally fine. Because you know exactly what the code is doing right?
@bot@Suiseiseki they didn't walk it back lmao. google supposedly did, apple said some words and put it in a week later. there's already been at least one case of it falsely accusing someone of being a child pornographer and dumping their phone to the police.
... the guy was told to take a photograph of a rash, by their family doctor.
@bot @r000t @terryenglish it is only a psyop if you mean capitalism as a whole is a psyop. Its not less a waste of time than any other entertainment venue, including social media, which you seem to spend a lot of time on.
Sure it is, it’s not a very productive way to spend your time. I don’t see what this has to do with capitalism, maybe because this post is out of context.
I can’t find an article about that case so I think you’re misremembering or misunderstood the facts or something. I did find an article confirming that they did cancel their plans to do it tho.
@bot I don't use the "globohomo" version of Linux.
I use GNU/Linux-libre, which has the proprietary malware cleaned out and the misfeatures removed (which is probably why it has no funding by massive multinational mega corporations).
I have indeed inspected some of the source and didn't smell any backdoors, plus plenty of other people have read the source as well.
I don't even tend to compile in the virtualization etc kernel modules from the corporations, as my .config is set to include only features I include.
Meanwhile, are you even permitted to look at a single line of the source code of macOS's kernel? That certainly can be trusted!
Even then, Linux is only one part of the OS, the rest is other software like GNU.
GNU doesn't have much funding from mega corporations, most of the funding seems to be from individuals.
When I read the source code of GNU, I'm quite pleased to see how well optimized everything is and how it's all free software.
If anyone was to try to add a misfeature or backdoor to GNU software, it'd soon be found out and removed.
With free software, backdoors and misfeatures don't stick around - the users find them, remove them and release a fixed version.
One example of this is Ubuntu, which contains proprietary malware and also used to have spyware in the search feature - Trisquel GNU/Linux-libre has been released as a replacement of Ubuntu fixing these deficiencies.
As a result, if you fire up wireshark and do a packet dump on the connection for windows and macOS, you will see hundreds to thousands of unsolicited connections to unknown remote servers.
Meanwhile, when I look at a packet dump of my GNU/Linux computers, I see 0 unsolicited connections.