Notices by The Dread Slender Gnome (gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz), page 3

The only thing missing here is Statler and Waldorf shouting insults at the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbzBw3Uiu48&pp=ygUOaW1hZ2luZSBtdXBwZXQ%3D

I can sort of understand the woke left's insistence that immigrants should be taken in, on the basis that they fundamentally don't believe national borders should be considered important, and people should have the right to move from one country to another at will. Based on this, I can sort of understand their insistence that illegal immigrants shouldn't be deported either.

But what I really, really don't understand, is the insistence that dangerous, hardened criminals should not be deported, or even arrested, if they are immigrants.
I'm not talking about suspects either, but proven ganbangers and other career criminals.

Yet Andy Ngo's stream is full of reports of how wokesters are publishing ICE agents' actions and locations, in order to actively stop them from arresting and deporting these actual dangerous criminals.

I can sort of understand, logically, believing that people should be allowed to stay because they should have the right to live in another country if they so wish. But I can't see what kind of logic could possibly lead to "these members of a hyper-violent Latin American gang must not be arrested/deported".

The only thing I can see leading to this is a knee-jerk "ICE bad" reaction, which at this point amounts to a thought-terminating cliche.

It just makes no sense.

@taylan I KNOW someone had sone a skit about that.

And I'm not talking about Judean People's Front either.

TL;DR: Palestine protest camp has material on how to convert to Islam and... literal Hamas propaganda material.

I've seen other people report on this too, independently of each other. Considering the footage I've seen of the marches and protests, I see little reason to doubt this.

maybe the project to eliminate Israel is really an inherently antisemitic one at this point.

I'm really not at all sure the project to eliminate Israel could ever have been separated from the goal of either killing, expelling or subjugating the Jews living in the area. Certainly the muslim nations around the Mediterranean area have been chasing Jews out for a long time now (though at times intermittently). And every now and then killing them. (Which is why Israel has a sizeable population of north African Jews, for example.)

@taylan It's remarkable how much more clear-minded Sanders sounds than Trump, despite of being five years older. Granted this isn't be best example, as it's almost certain to be scripted, but with unscripted content it's crystal clear.

ETA: and in case this isn't clear, this isn't about policy, there are plenty of Republicans who would also sound much more clear-minded than Trump.

@socjuswiz @ninapaley @Vaishax @theAVclub I have a very low opinion of islam, possibly lower even than other religions, if possible.
I'm also a free-speecher and against hate speech rules/legislation, in general.

But I don't truck with that sort of rhetoric. And while I would love to see islam (also) go the way of the dodo, and think a LOT of muslims do despicable things and hold despicable opinions, I think comments like this are essentially no better than the comments by islamists about killing or subjugating all kuffars.

@taylan Well... like I said, I think that if you start from that point in time, you're already missing a lot.

Although, from what I've heard, it was in fact the surrounding Arab nations which ordered the local Arabs to leave. Those who stayed (because not everyone obeyed the order), apparently became what now is the Arab population of Israel.

Still, that's not the point in time I'd start at, because even the situation with the British Mandate is rooted in what happened before that, and that's rooted in what happened before and so on and so on.
And I don't think you can divorce the movements of the Arab populations from islamism, or in earlier days, the Arab conquest.

I used to think I could look at what happened in the 1900s and "get" what the conflict was about, but that just led me into a dead end. The mess didn't really start to make sense, until I went way back in history to the preceding centuries.

@taylan Fair to the viewpoint of the islamists? Not sure what that would look like.

But honestly, if you want the history of the conflict, you're in for a long read, since you'd really have to go back pretty damn far to get a proper view. Including what happened to Jews under Romans (that laid the scene, even though it happened before the Arab conquest) and then obviously the Arab imperial project during the Arab conquest. Even the fall of the Ottoman empire is a relatively recent development in this particular story. The good news is, the further back in time you go, the more likely you're to get neutral commentary that just focuses on the events and doesn't bring things like religious ideology in the mix.

@taylan @brendamccann @polarisera It's probably just me then, but I've never found that kind of behaviour particularly funny or fun.

Therefore I tend not to engage with or pay attention to people who do that, and hence end up not really having a more through opinion on them.

The main reason I asked about this is because I'm seeing a lot of people online who talk about this saying people should be banned from the gym immediately, no second chances.

I'm generally of the mind that it's a good idea to give people a chance to change their ways, so I was curious as to whether the "one strike and you're out" was the general consensus out there.
Not that I'd have anything against that approach.

Six votes obviously isn't much, but at least it's something, I guess.

Ah, the Nordics.
We might be at each other's metaphorical throats continuously, but fundamentally, we have so much in common...

@taylan Stop farting.

@KeepTakingTheSoma @jmakesart When the inspirational message is "you can't do it, it's too hard, you should stay in your safe space with plushie toys and colouring books".

@jmakesart If you're in for slogans, here's one.

"I don't agree with you" is not hate.

Covers a lot of ground, and strikes at what I think is one of the most important issues, namely the claims that someone who disagrees with you also automatically hates you and that makes them bad.

@KeepTakingTheSoma @Biff All the people who don't want to come see your fake painting are just mean haters.

From the video, btw:

Nina: "If men can be women, and women can be men, then happiness can be sad, and sadness can be happy."

Watching a video commenting on Ellen Page's message to young people.

There's the of course the obvious visual, that she looks like a 40-something accountant profoundly disappointed in how their life ended up, which multiple people have already pointed out.

But there's another striking thing about her too. She sounds like she's 70.
Seriously. Her voice and her speech sound like they belong to a frail 70-something, not an adult in what should be her prime.

Lord knows what else testosterone has done to her body. Her voice seems completely destroyed.

No wonder she doesn't seem to be working much.

(source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POhdW7MqswQ )

@Biff I suspect that in order to be a good actor, one must have awareness of how emotions look like for real. She seems to have dug herself so deep into self-deception, that she has also pushed away whatever awareness of that she previously had. Because if she didn't, the self-deception might falter every time she saw herself in the mirror (or a selfie).

@KeepTakingTheSoma I don't think everything is controlled, because I don't think everything can be controlled. Way too many moving parts altogether.

The rape gang thing was always going to bubble up eventually, I think. The question was when. It does seem that the stranglehold the right-thinking people had on public information and narrative is slipping, especially in the UK. A good example of this is the pushback against trans nonsense making it more and more to mainstream. And once it slips in one area, it'll start slipping in another.

Fundamentally, no one contingent can hold power forever. Nothing is permanent, everything changes, this too shall pass. And I think there's a shift in the power balance in the UK, and perhaps elsewhere too. What happens with the shift, I don't know, because things like that tend to be unpredictable.

@taylan @HebrideanHecate From your keyboard to the eyes of the Fates...

I'm personally annoyed that the legislation in Finland is clearly happy to go on a banning spree when it comes to consumer devices, but says absolutely nothing about car manufacturers embedding exactly the same technology in their cars.

It's such a glaring double-standard. One rule for the little people, another for businesses.