@r000t@p@NEETzsche@lanodan Debian removed support for installing any Python packages system-wide with pip. It needs to be in the Debian package repo or go make a virtual env. Python has a PEP for this and Fedora is going to do it too.
@Elucidating maybe you should learn about how plastics are actually made before getting on the train of PLA because "no oil". We don't make oil to make plastics.
> Although crude oil is a source of raw material (feedstock) for making plastics, it is not the major source of feedstock for plastics production in the United States. Plastics are produced from natural gas, feedstocks derived from natural gas processing, and feedstocks derived from crude oil refining.
It is a free *byproduct* of refining that would otherwise have to be dealt with as industrial waste, but instead they figured out how to make it into plastic and sell it to us.
@Elucidating it more easily breaks down to become microplastics and nanoplastics. The more durable a plastic is the better it is for the environment long term
@Elucidating but we don't make oil to make plastics; plastics are an almost completely free byproduct of our existing oil production. It would otherwise be waste.
Reducing oil production will probably not meaningfully impact our access to plastics.
@Elucidating I'd be willing to be that PLA plastics are *worse* for the environment because it gets brittle over time and has lower thermal stability than ABS
Gonna be a huge excess in cheap plastic now that will get used for other things. It will keep plastic bags out of grocery stores but sadly I do not think it will keep plastic out of the environment
@paco I'm the one that originally wrote the FreeBSD shell script xe-guest-utilities by studying the old Linux shell script version, thanks for that patch!