It depends upon what sort of conversation they expect to have. IFF they're open-minded and ready to be challenged and reconsider their conclusions, then it's a conversation worth having. You might even learn something useful about how they reached their conclusion in the first place. If they're closed-minded and nursing a self-delusion, your chance of being heard is next to nil, and the effort would be wasted.
I can't tell you how to predict which ones are which.
This seems like misdirection to me, whether intentional or not. The people most likely to exhibit this behavior aren't those who have ADHD or even autistic traits; rather, they're likely to be selfish and have a Machivellian sense of ethics, i.e. what applies to others must not apply to them. While I once read that hostility to criticism correlated with autism, my interpersonal experience has not shown this to be obvious.
A true ADHDer entirely forgets when it counts that he ever tried to make a list; if anything gets crossed off it's because somebody else found it. The ADHD curse is failure to follow through, and failing to follow through on making and maintaining lists is a safe bet for a cautious gambler.
The same moniker exists at X, and could be the same person; I followed that "jrlodden" over there - with my same moniker - to see if that gets a rise. 😇
How long has #Mastodon existed? I just got followed by an account that seems to have existed here for seven long years but yet has never posted or even replied once.... *scratches head*
Ya know, if this IWT was really that perfectly descriptive of autism, I would have heard about it in the last decade. Other AuDHD people in my sphere would have mentioned it. Articles about it would have knocked on my eyelids. It would have been discussed in the autism support group. None of that happened.
Instead, this discussion is the very first that I'm hearing of it.
I'm a Mensa member, n'est-ce pas? I've been "diagnosed" to have a fluid IQ that exceeds that of 98% or more of the population. The last time I was tested (WAIS-III), it was explained to me that my memory deficit affected the result and that, in the absence of that memory issue, the result would likely have been higher, so my true IQ might be greater than 98th percentile. Remember, I said that I suspect that my IQ was a *compensation* for poor memory, but it's affected by it.
I has pseudo-diagnoses, but my parents never got the hints. Ritalin was suggested in the Sixties when I was under age 10, but my mother balked, giving into rumors of a high rate of suicide.
No, I had to wait until 1998 to get a judgement from someone with a title (and specialization).
I suspect that I might have developed 98th-percentile fluid IQ rather than being born with it, as a result and remediation of that memory deficit, which did come factory-installed.
You discount the value of rote memorization. It's the ONLY thing that allows people of average intelligence to function as specialists in any role, and that specialization is generally essential to occupational success in this age. Had I been born in 1501, I'd have been highly valued.
Founder of the Society of Insouciant Candor.Displaced secular humanist Vulcan with a hatred of self-delusion, tribalism, and selfishness. Promoter of democratic socialism as an unobtainable ideal. FULLY independent (non-tribalistic) thinker: don't expect me to defend or support you merely because you profess liberal ethics if you fail to demonstrate them. Ad hominem is NEVER acceptable.Twice gifted; autism, ADHD, OCD traits. Agnostic atheist. #Autism #ADHD #AuDHD #OCD #HSP #Mensa