Notices by Irenes (many) (irenes@mastodon.social), page 4

we're relieved to hear we're not the only ones who get the head thing

@jdp23 @williampietri we must say it's extremely frustrating to us to see "protocols not platforms" being so closely associated with this hyper-individualist no-responsibility nonsense :(

because, like, there's also an important point about interoperability, which is what the slogan would seem to refer to on surface level

@blaine the opposite of enshittification is civic engagement. people need to care about the DETAILS of public infrastructure, and genuinely get involved rather than leaving it up to elected and appointed officials.

is kink-at-pride discourse going around again?

we've only seen the barest hints but we think we'll just offer this meme on the subject as a prophylactic

@BethanyBlack what really worries us is that we're also never more than a bad day away from SAYING something really embarrassing

and convincing half a dozen people it's true ><

@lzg you should absolutely write a story about them!!!!!!

we cannot imagine any corporation paying for this, for long. it's easy to imagine an exec spending a single headcount on it for a year or two, but as soon as the storytelling starts to make a difference it will be cut for being insufficiently measurable

but we'd love to read fiction, even so

@abolisyonista queer pride is already the rebuttal to hate. hate doesn't have any ideas.

don't engage with hatred in ways that give that hatred a larger audience, or that allow it to set the terms of the discussion.

note that this isn't a direct answer; "debate" is a notion that means different things to different people, so we don't find it to be useful in formulating this kind of guideline.

have you been getting

$ sudo nixos-rebuild build --show-trace
building the system configuration...
warning: Git tree '/etc/nixos' is dirty
error: cached failure of attribute 'nixosConfigurations.emotion.config.system.build.toplevel'

? you might want to try

$ sudo nix build --show-trace .#nixosConfigurations.emotion.config.system.build.toplevel

@cube_drone @simon it's a good book, we do like it, we learned a lot from it back in the day. that subscript sounds like a good idea :D

@cube_drone @simon we cautiously support use of the term for that specific use-case.

@cube_drone @simon we do recognize room for debate on that point

@cube_drone @simon on reflection, we don't really think these belong in the same course. like... some of them are statistics techniques and belong in a stats course. others are exotic programming languages.

@cube_drone @simon even the proponents of these technologies should be wanting to call them by names which help people arrive at accurate mental models of what they do.

@cube_drone @simon it's just, "AI" has been a marketing term, not a technical one, throughout that history. it has always led people to incorrect conclusions. more than once in the last 50 years, all funding for "AI" has dried up for a decade or so as a direct consequence of unrealistic expectations which were deliberately seeded, in part through the use of that term.

@futurebird haha, yeah we've never heard that one either

we do make up proverbs sometimes but we try to be honest they're ours....

@futurebird we have never heard it. our first thought would be that it's something furries aspire to.

@foone well played (ha ha)

@impactology ouch. you're clearly right, but that's super distressing to us because computing as a field of study is going through this transition where NOBODY today has the path to learning that worked so well to get everything off the ground

it's worth taking the time now and then to notice that phenomenon where, when a new thing is invented, we all have to be taught to want it, and therefore to find our current things inadequate

every once in a while you can see a case where the process breaks down - people don't want the new thing - but companies still try to move ahead

https://arstechnica.com/?p=1993084

@ryanhoulihan yes, absolutely. we have no direct knowledge of this, but we also have no doubt of it. their bottom line is directly tied to how much of a pain in the ass they can be.