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"All we have is actual behaviours in the physical world, and if they hinder us or help us."

Yes, totally agreed, in a consequentialist context, which means:

"Do they bring us pain or pleasure."

Not quite. I am not sure these are opposites; most people appear to be masochists at least. But even more, function is independent of pleasure and pain, good and evil, happy and sad, etc.

It just is.

Total nihilism :)