@Hoss So true, Hoss “Cyber Jester”! The Shitlibs—so NOT SMART—think they’re clever, but all they do is expose their total disrespect for hard-working Americans. They look down on the great patriots, the magnificent people who built this country—REAL America, not the elitist garbage from Gavin NewSCUM and Low-IQ Maxine Waters! We love our “bumpkin” class—they’re the backbone, the finest, the BEST! That’s why we WIN, and they just seethe! #TrumpCountry#AmericaFirst
@Hoss without checking, i'm sure that this lying kike's "statistic" includes things like welfare and government spending, so it's actually a map of consumption not production
@Hoss Notes on the Shitlib situation: they have clustered into cities which are resource dependent. Resources provided mainly by those they despise. They don't need to be fought. They can be starved.
@Hoss The implication that the red area, which includes essentially all the agriculture and heavy industry, has no "product", whereas whatever financialist, on-paper bullshit the blue faggots engage in is real and valuable. :pepeLol:
You could also read it as "Yeah our corporate executive class in the urban centers gutted the industrial heartland and now you're poor and unworthy of notice lmao!"
I think bikerfren has it right. The accounting system essentially interprets "value" as being something companies create, and most companies are headquartered in big blue urban shitholes. Even if the actual things they're selling and the places they're being sold are more distributed.
It's the financial equivalent of taking credit for someone else's work.
@Hoss@ACL9000 I VIEW IT MORE AS "WE CAN LEVERAGE OUR POLITICAL POWER AND CONSUMER POPULATION TO OVERVALUE OUR MIXTAPE-FOR-HANDJOB ECONOMY AND SUCK UP YOUR RESOURCES"
HENCE THE HIGHER WAGES AND COST OF LIVING
THINGS ARE PRODUCED OUTSIDE OF CITIES, SHIPPED IN TO FEED THEM AT A COLONIAL-IMPERIAL PRICING
@Hoss@ACL9000 PORT CITIES ARE DISTRIBUTION CENTERS THAT EXTRACT RENT ON THAT
BUT IN THE CONTINENTAL CONTEXT OF NORTH AMERICA -- EVERY URBAN CENTER IS AN INLAND PORT FROM WHICH GOODS AND SERVICES GET DISTRIBUTED ALONG THE HIGHWAY SYSTEM
Chicago has the CME, but the nerve center for global commodity exchange really doesn't have all that much to do with Chicago itself. I wouldn't be surprised to see them leave the city one day, considering the trading floors don't even exist anymore.
@Morghur@VIcFury@Hoss That's not really true. We are not stupid, and thus know about all the farmland that produces all the food. But vast majority of said food products is shipped to the cities to be processed into packed meat, flour, frozen and processed foods, etc.
@wgiwf@Morghur@VIcFury@Hoss imho there's another thing owned and operated by cities that rural areas are (currently) unable to do without: the banking system. arguably also the internet
we do not have self-sufficient amerikaner farmsteads or communities of any kind, not in any meaningful numbers. all of them depend on blue information systems
Shitlibs can never understand that cities don't produce anything. They need to be supplied constatly while generating "economic movement" but not producing anything for the people living in it.
@vonzeppelin@Morghur@VIcFury@wgiwf@Hoss Garbage FUD. People will make it work if they value it, just like they made their own transistor radios, figured out how to use bittorrent and built their own PCs. Stuff like https://villages.io / bitcoin / monero / etc doesn't *need* to be reinvented - it already exists and already works.
>People will make it work if they value it, just like they made their own transistor radios, figured out how to use bittorrent and built their own PCs. You're talking about maybe 5% of the population.
@Hoss what point is he even driving at here? So what if America’s largest cities “produce” half of its GDP? That’s not even as high a percentage as I’d expect.
@pettanko Remember too that GDP is "value" and not "product".
City niggers want to pretend like we couldn't survive without "value" like banks and shit. Ruralites will rightly point out that money has no value if people won't sell what you want to buy.
It's not even "value", it's "dollars transacted"... You and I could both setup companies and buy stuff from each other (tax free because it's all business expenses) and in principle, we could run the GDP well into the trillions, using nothing but a bunch of invoices which we setoff at the end anyway.
Some companies kind of use it to kind of fluff up their revenues - like the shit that Nvidia, OpenAI, and Microsoft are doing...
It's not really *fraud* unless you're using it with the objective of tricking someone, but when you're using revenues to establish valuation, it is definitely borderline...
But what they were doing was stuff like buying a powerplant, then running up the price of power to 50c/Kwh, then just future-considering the next 50 years of power that it generates to be worth quadrillions of dollars, putting that on their balance sheet, and then borrowing against it. That was a house of cards...
I wasn't necessarily comparing what's happening in AI to what Enron did, it was in relation to the original topic and how it reminded me of the shell game Enron played by "selling" toxic assets to shells that they also surreptitiously created and controlled.
Well, you might be righter than you imagine - the word on the street is that Nvidia's books are dirty dirty, and in fact people like to comment about how (prophetically) when Enron was delisted from the SPX, the company which was listed next "in their place" was Nvidia...
I think AI has immense promise, but the market is getting blackout drunk off the current mania. The Mag 7 is literally 1/3 of the entire S&P right now, that's beyond concerning.