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   ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 19:27:38 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??
   Reminder that as garbage software for garbage people, Mastodon does not tell you what instances are being blocked by the instance you're using.
   
   Good luck and have fun.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 19:27:35 JST 寮

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     @PhenomX6 The ability to block an entire instance just because 1 user who's following 1 different user out of the thousands on a different instance has said "nigger" 8 years ago is ultimately what destroys the entire point of decentralization.
     I think if one day I find myself developing an alternative protocol, I'll just be the benevelant DICKtator for life of that project, and explicitely gatekeep instance blocking feature out.
     
     As much as I'd like to take advantage of that by getting the soyful idiots to block us, as loli frog told me the other day, a hands off no rules and no censorship approach is a way better form of gatekeeping than trying to gatekeep with moderation, rules, and censorship.
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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 19:27:36 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     Even better, 9/10 just pull in the same few lists of blocked instances. Including SPC, Baest, and more.
     
     So when ecelebs like RMC join, turns out you can't follow them because they're using shit tier instances run by jannies because "oh cool this is a nice theme I think I'll join without reading the ToS".
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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 19:27:36 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     One of the biggest issues that is going to be harming adoption of the fediverse is the e-mail problem, and who is enabling it.
     
     By now it's well known what happened to e-mail. Google and pals basically control it now because essentially all the normies signed up for one service, and if you don't use Google or someone they approve all emails are sent to /dev/null to stop spam. There is a risk that someone like Google could make a big instance and get normies onto it and force them into it with defederation.
     
     On one hand the biggest company to care about the fedi is Pixiv with Pawoo (now owned by a game publisher), but on the other hand there's already a defederation problem with instances adding other instances because they were told they're bad. Which means if you join an instance like SPC or FSE, you find yourself blocked from many instances which are just cargo culting instance blocks since they're not supposed to ask questions, just block the bad people to "protect" your users. Just like a few other cults, everyone else has to defederate them too or one click of "external source" means the illusion shatters...and you find out everyone online is actually talking shit about you.
     
     This could happen if normies sign up for Mastodon.social or instances with janny problems as they force other instances into their janny pacts, and it's why the only way forward is to decentralize the fedi more.
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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 19:27:37 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     I've been experimenting and I'm finding out which instances are letting posts go through, and which are lying about what instances they block with the SPARC some more.
     
     As it turns out, an awful lot of Mastodon instances are lying about what instances they block because their visible blocklists are old as shit.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 22:48:29 JST 寮

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     @Freefromfall @neatchee Simple: there's still user level blocking where individual users can decide what they consider to be "hate speech" or "inclusivity" like grown ups rather than an admin deciding it for everybody else (treating their users like children effectively).
     
     Just find me any instance that claims to be "anti-fascist" and/or "promotes inclusivity" that doesn't block a massive amount of instances like a literal fascist and/or promoter of division.
     You probably won't even find one.
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     Freefromfall (freefromfall@urusai.social)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 22:48:34 JST Freefromfall

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     @ryo @PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com @neatchee I’m afraid I don’t follow your logic. How exactly does instance blocking destroy the point of decentralization with respect to social media? If a user doesn’t like the rules of one instance, they can move to a different instance with different rules, or better yet, start their own. Some communities choose to take a hard stance against hate speech to promote inclusivity, others don’t have that ideal at the forefront of their agenda.

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     Freefromfall (freefromfall@urusai.social)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 22:50:56 JST Freefromfall

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     @ryo @neatchee @phenomX6 the beautiful part about Mastodon is that, if you and other like-minded users don’t like something about an instance, nothing is stopping you from going somewhere else. Ultimately whether an instance is blocked or not depends on the behavior of its users and how they get along with users from other instances that may have a different disposition.

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     御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 22:55:35 JST 御園はくい

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     @Freefromfall @ryo new users hardly know that instance blocking is a thing let alone make the decision to move because of it
     
     imagine your friend finally comes onto fedi and you can't talk to them because their instance defedded you because you refused to denounce some other instance that they have a beef with
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     bits :waifu: (waifu@waifuism.life)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 23:36:33 JST bits :waifu:

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     @Freefromfall @ryo
     >Mastodon
     You meant to say the fediverse.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 23:42:13 JST 寮

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     @waifu @Freefromfall The vast majority of Masto is either Pawoo, or Baraag, or Free Atlantis, or Game Liberty, or the thousands of indistinguishable instances with the same cultish woke-left rules.
     
     If you really want to use the whole selling point of "if you don't like it, move to somewhere else or make your own then", probably better to use "Fediverse" instead of "Mastodon".
     There's lots more variation among the Misskey and Pleroma instances, hell even the like 10 GNU Social instances have more variety than the thousands + 3 Mastodon instances.
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     touch fluffy tail (fluffy@social.handholding.io)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 08:36:41 JST touch fluffy tail

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     @hakui @ryo @Freefromfall @neatchee
     >it's kindness
     when i joined the mastodon network, and learned that I was not allowed to see most of the network "for my own good", believe me I did not think my administrator to be doing me any sort of kindness at all
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     neatchee (neatchee@urusai.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 08:36:42 JST neatchee

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     @hakui @ryo @Freefromfall Aaaaaaand you've just lost all credibility. Protecting my users isn't babysitting. It's kindness.

     I can't teach you to care about other people.

     But go off, chief. Individualism will surely get you lots of friends who will actually be there for you when you need it :AquaThumbsUp:

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     御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 08:36:42 JST 御園はくい

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     @neatchee @ryo @Freefromfall the fact that i can list at least ten instances on your list that no longer exist shows you just stuck someone else's list up yours without checking if the reasons on the list were justified, very responsible and kind of you there
     
     like, absturztaube is one of the more chill instances out there and they're on your list lmao
     
     but go off, janny. collectivism won't get you friends either, just people you have to babysit who will eventually eat your own :smug3:
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     御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 08:36:43 JST 御園はくい

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     @neatchee @ryo @Freefromfall must be tough babysitting an entire instance of kids who don't have their own agency, salutes to you
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     neatchee (neatchee@urusai.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 08:36:44 JST neatchee

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     @hakui @ryo @Freefromfall I'm not ever going to open my users up to seeing hateful ideologies on their TL (reactive blocking instead of proactive) just because Joey wants to talk to Bobby who is on a server that federates with f*ckj*ws.social. People can figure it out, they're not idiots.

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     кину奇诺 (kino@fedi.intkos.link)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 08:38:04 JST кину奇诺

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     @PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com I'm progressive adopting more of a view that these large, centralized networks which block out everyone else are, ackshually, a "good thing" because they filter out and quarantine insufferable, pedestrian normies.
     
     This recent wave of Twitter users joining the fediverse, however temporary their stay, has demonstrated just how damaging the mainstream normie or Western NPC idealogue can be to the native ecosystem here.

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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 09:32:37 JST 寮

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     @neatchee @hakui @Freefromfall All ideologies are retarded, and retardedness makes them (seem) hateful.
     Whatever, your instance, your rules.
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     neatchee (neatchee@urusai.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:16:07 JST neatchee

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     @hakui @ryo @Freefromfall Bro, they federate with kiwifarms and extremist instances. idgaf if their members are "chill". Yes, I pulled from prebuilt lists, because I'm an adult who doesn't have time to investigate every instance. I can always remove them later if people complain.

     I'm done with this conversation. I don't even know why you care. Just don't join our server.

     Gonna be looking into your server now, as having people like you around likely means I need to block ya'll too ;)

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     御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:16:07 JST 御園はくい

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     @neatchee @ryo @Freefromfall >taking other people's words at face value without checking
     yeah i bet you took the jabs too eh? when are you getting another booster
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     御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:16:21 JST 御園はくい

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     @neatchee @ryo @Freefromfall >I need to block ya'll too ;)
     whatever makes up for the lack of a parental figure in your life i guess
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:18:02 JST 寮

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     @neatchee @hakui @Freefromfall
     > still believing that the covAIDS exists
     > still believing the lethal injections are safe and effective, despite the massive amounts of evidence that objectively shows it's all poison and the so-called "dangerous conspiracy theorists" were right all along
     
     How cute...
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     neatchee (neatchee@urusai.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:18:03 JST neatchee

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     @hakui @ryo @Freefromfall HAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH you called it a jab LMFAO. Yeah, I'm double boosted. My 5G signal has never been stronger, and Bill Gates called me personally to tell me to have fun on vacation in California.

     Gonna go ahead and report you to your admins and if they don't care I'll be blocking your whole instance. You're pushing extremely dangerous conspiracy theories that are dangerous, and actually hurt people.

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     御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:18:50 JST 御園はくい

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     @neatchee @ryo @Freefromfall >Gonna go ahead and report you to your admins
     cry more jabbie
     your parents will be glad for the hush money they get from pfizer when you "die suddenly"
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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:19:18 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     @neatchee @hakui @ryo @Freefromfall they're going to click view remote instance and then they find out that everyone is calling them names behind their back ?
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     御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:19:31 JST 御園はくい

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     @PhenomX6 @neatchee @Freefromfall @ryo i can't believe pre-ccp john cena is my friend
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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:20:28 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     @hakui @ryo @Freefromfall this, this is exactly what I'm pointing out.
     
     If you think it's for "protecting users" it's bullshit. It's just to power trip.
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     Bloodytailspike (monsterislandcolonizer@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:22:12 JST Bloodytailspike

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     @neatchee @hakui @ryo @Freefromfall Wow look at this segregationist urusai.social is full of alt-righters!
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     ?uper?nekFriend ? (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:22:39 JST ?uper?nekFriend ?

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     @neatchee @hakui @ryo @Freefromfall But what if those "hateful ideologies" are true? What if your physical, social, and eternal spiritual survival depends on you hearing and eventually accepting those "hateful ideologies"? How would you know otherwise outside of attacking crude strawmen intended to keep you ignorant?
     
     Oh who am I kidding. You probably cannot read this. :jahy_disgust:
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     Hollahollara (hollahollara@spinster.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:23:09 JST Hollahollara

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     @monsterislandcolonizer @neatchee @ryo @hakui @Freefromfall Thank you for letting all of us know. Unfortunately it is time to defederate from extremist segregationist instance urusai.social :blobsad:

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     dew_the_dew (dew_the_dew@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:24:46 JST dew_the_dew

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     wait there is a fuckjews.social instance?
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     御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:25:22 JST 御園はくい

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     @dew_the_dew @neatchee @ryo @Freefromfall IT'S REAL IN HIS HEAD
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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:29:51 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     @neatchee @hakui @ryo @Freefromfall
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     hirohito (hiro@epic.meme.moe)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:30:31 JST hirohito

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     @neatchee@urusai.social @hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info @ryo@social.076.ne.jp @Freefromfall@urusai.social Bro, they federate with kiwifarms and extremist instances.This isn't even protecting your users, that's just cutting off other people through guilt-by-association. If I federate with absturztaube, am I blocked? If someone federates with me and I federate with absturztaube, are they blocked? Are you going to block all the Japanese instances that don't follow western Fediverse drama?
     
     Have fun defederating from the entire network.

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     wolfie (wolfie@pleroma.wolfie.pw)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:31:49 JST wolfie

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     @neatchee @hakui @ryo @Freefromfall Just to clarify, you’re nuking one of the most laid back and nicest instances simply because they won’t bend the knee and defederate from people you believe they should. Not because they or their users did anything, but simply because they won’t do what you want them to do. What an.. interesting.. perspective. :thinking_cirno:

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     wolfie (wolfie@pleroma.wolfie.pw)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:32:28 JST wolfie

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     @Freefromfall @ryo @hakui @neatchee Refusal to block an entire instance is not endorsement of the actions of members on that instance. My point remains. They’re being blocked merely for not conforming and submitting. Given it’s whoever owns it’s instance it’s their choice to make. It seems an unwise choice and merely following what the group think says, but again, their choice :thinking_cirno:

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     Freefromfall (freefromfall@urusai.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:32:29 JST Freefromfall

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     @wolfie @ryo @hakui @neatchee “chill” is quite an ‘interesting’ term for an instance that federates with extremist groups… ?

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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:39:03 JST 寮

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     @Freefromfall @wolfie @hakui @neatchee What if instances federate with other instances simply because they don't defederate anybody and don't even care though?
     This is exactly what I meant with destroying the entire point of federation; just easily offended toddlers being mad at other instances federating with instances they don't like, regardless of them even caring or not.
     
     This would mean that all the soystances will need to block every single non-English speaking instance and all non-western run instances altogether, because those are most likely not even aware of the whole Kiwifarms saga and neither will those instances ever care.
     I'm aware, but that's because I'm following some western people.
     But the instance owner here is probably not even aware of this at all, at least I think she doesn't know unless she read the article on gnusocial.jp about it.
     
     So, does not even knowing a certain instance exists to begin with count as "willfully federating with a certain instance"?
     Reading the block logs on these soystances, it seems like the answer is "yes".
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     御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:39:36 JST 御園はくい

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     @Freefromfall @wolfie @ryo @neatchee i know you have no real membership in any social groups so you cling onto the "us vs them" mentality immediately but one adult concept you might want to learn soon is "neutrality". it's when people don't want to take any sides, and that doesn't mean they support either of the sides
     
     you're welcome
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     御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:41:07 JST 御園はくい

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     @Freefromfall @wolfie @ryo @neatchee if users know what blocks are in place, sure
     
     but more often i've noticed new users don't even know instance blocks are a thing, let alone what instances are being blocked. that's not a very transparent way to run things
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     Freefromfall (freefromfall@urusai.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:41:08 JST Freefromfall

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     @wolfie @ryo @hakui @neatchee well it’s not a denunciation of the actions either. Choosing to associate only with instances that take that hardline stance is up to the owner of the instance. If users don’t like that the instance has taken that stance, those users should go somewhere else instead of disparaging genuine community members.

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     wolfie (wolfie@pleroma.wolfie.pw)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:42:52 JST wolfie

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     @Freefromfall @ryo @hakui @neatchee Up to a point that’s fair. Personally, I believe fragmentation of the fediverse is harmful to the overall goal. However, you are correct that a person could go elsewhere. From my perspective, for what that’s worth, it’s harmful to blanket ban instances and import mass block lists where the admin has little to no idea who generated the list, what criteria may have been used, whether those instances were truly bad in the first place and so on. To continue with mk.absturztau.be as an example, every interaction I’ve ever had with them has been nice and good. So, presuming you haven’t had a different direct experience with them, we’re back to them getting block based on nothing more than what amounts to a purity test and submission to an ideology of “guilt by association”. Is that fair? Is that right? Clearly for me, it isn’t. Of course, you’re free to run your instance however you like. I would just suggest that maybe actually investigating some of the blocks instead of just blindly importing them might be a good idea, you know?

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     御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 10:43:01 JST 御園はくい

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     @wolfie @Freefromfall @neatchee @ryo (they won't, because it would actually entail having to do actual discernment, which they're unable to
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     @hakui @ryo @Freefromfall @neatchee Well, one can always hope, no? :thinking_cirno:

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     @wolfie @Freefromfall @neatchee @ryo when you see the signs of fetal alcohol syndrome on the newly delivered baby, do you still hope they can become a doctor or engineer when they grow up?
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     @neatchee @hakui @ryo @Freefromfall You do know they’re called jabs in lots of parts of the world, right?

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     @hakui @ryo @Freefromfall @neatchee Generally speaking, no, though I wouldn’t presume to know such in this case as I have no information on the subject :thinking_cirno:

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     @wolfie @Freefromfall @neatchee @ryo spacetime is infinite but there is only a subset of the past and future that are reachable from the present moment
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     @hakui @ryo @Freefromfall @neatchee True. Though the infinite nature of spacetime is somewhat debatable, no?

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     @wolfie @Freefromfall @neatchee @ryo perhaps. but that's not the point i'm trying to bring up here
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     @hakui @ryo @Freefromfall @neatchee True :laughing_cirno:

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     @Freefromfall @wolfie @ryo @hakui @neatchee there is an interesting question here: who is the real extremist group?
     Is it the so called "extremist group" that warrants a "defed by association", or is it the group that tries to force you to abide by their rules or risk defed?
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     @Suzu @ryo @hakui @Freefromfall @neatchee That’s honestly a fair question. Though, I suppose the answer to which is also entirely defined by ones perspective

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     @wolfie @Suzu @neatchee @ryo "can't be us, we're the Good Guys and Good Guys can't be extremist" t. @Freefromfall
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     @wolfie @ryo @hakui @Freefromfall @neatchee isn't it funny when fascists think they aren't fascists, but everyone else is?
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     @Suzu @wolfie @hakui @Freefromfall @neatchee "It's not fascism when WE do it!!"
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     @Suzu @ryo @hakui @Freefromfall @neatchee I hesitate to use that particular word, as it’s value has already been substantially lowered these days, but the principle is solid

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     @Freefromfall @hakui @wolfie @neatchee
     
     Freefromfall: "if you don't like the rules of the instance, you can go somewhere else."
     Also Freefrom fall: "respect other people's boundaries."
     
     So, which one is it?
     Do you prefer each instance having their own rules (like in the first case), or do you prefer all instances to obey to 1 particular 3rd party instance's rules even if they disagree with these (like in the second case)?
     
     Realisticly speaking, the latter is impossible, and very mentally unhealthy too.
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     @hakui @wolfie @ryo @neatchee you should look into the same thing kid. While you’re at it, another adult concept you might want to learn is called “respecting other people’s boundaries” .

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     Wow for a game dev, you sure like to push cookie cutter buzzwords around constantly. You sure you’re not just an over glorified asset ripper?
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     @Suzu @wolfie @Freefromfall @hakui @neatchee @ryo Why yes we hate fascists because they do XYZ. Ah, you see, we can't be fascists because we define the term. It's ok that we do XYZ because we aren't fascists.
     
     When dealing with people that have no moral foundation beyond "friend good enemy bad" (and often hold to that very loosely), pointing out hypocrisy won't help them or you in any way. May as well laugh and move on.
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     @ryo @Suzu @Freefromfall @hakui @neatchee @wolfie I really, really like this image.
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     @hakui @wolfie @ryo @Freefromfall @neatchee I've seen a few that neglect to update theirs even.
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     Not particularly hype for current thing??‍❤️‍?? (ytfoidlover1488@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 13:10:06 JST Not particularly hype for current thing??‍❤️‍??

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     @Suzu @wolfie @ryo @hakui @Freefromfall @neatchee No nigger in this thread knows what fascism is.
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     @Freefromfall @ryo @neatchee i'm afraid this isn't the case. you'll end up blocked because someone who got upset by something you boosted added you to a blocklist that got merged without review and circulated without as much as a look at who they are blocking

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     @TerminalAutism @ryo @Freefromfall @Suzu @hakui @neatchee @wolfie The leftist / anarchocommie narrative about the "pandemic" is the most puzzling thing out there. They used to hate "big pharma" like here https://inequality.org/great-divide/big-pharma-firm-brought-us-opioid-crisis/ and suddenly they worship it. They will complain all day long about evil capitalism making their magical "vaccine" expensive, but will never bother to question its safety or effectiveness - or any of the other COVID restrictions for that matter. Reading some of those anarchist websites is like a window into another world.
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     @digdeeper @TerminalAutism @Freefromfall @Suzu @hakui @neatchee @wolfie Because the pendalum has shifted.
     Leftists used to be the rebels against the systems while the rightists used to be the system.
     But now the left is the system whereas the right is rebelling, meanwhile the left still thinks they're the rebels, and now both sides are fighting and widening the gap rather than closing it like how it should be.
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     @Freefromfall @wolfie @ryo @neatchee i was neutral until your janny sperged out. not my problem
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     @birdulon @Suzu @Freefromfall @neatchee @ryo @wolfie "friend good enemy bad" is the basis of all interactions regardless of side, actually
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     Probably then there is a little point of instances now. People coming into Fediverse are obsessed with creating communities.
     
     People always tend to create the police and a government. Even on social platforms.
     
     And it's always the same:
     “Come, join our community, only here you can be yourself and meet fancy people! We have cookies!
     <small><small><small>You're prohibited to <a_list_of_1000_points>, and we will judge not only you, who accepted this small text despite you didn't read it, but also those who are outside our instance</small></small></small>
     Here is your picture of a cat.
     Have fun! (*^‿^*) ”
     
     So, probably, a direct connection to a person you like is the best.
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     @nk @Freefromfall @hakui @neatchee @wolfie
     
     > People always tend to create the police and a government. Even on social platforms.
     
     It's something 99% of the instance owners eventually will do, unless it's a single user instance.
     I only won't see this happening with this instance, especially since here we have the "meh, I don't care" mentality towards moderation.
     An attitude you naturally get after getting banned from literally everywhere.
     
     But still, I think the best way will remain to have your own website as your platform, XMPP, email, and IRC servers as the way to contact all the landchads, RSS or Atom feeds for "HEY, I JUST POSTED A NEW ARTICLE, NIGGER!!", perhaps a BBS (or imageboard, same thing anyway) would be nice.
     
     This alone would solve so many problems, like the censorship of free speech/expression, deplatforming of people, woke infiltration, normies forcing their way into places that's clearly not made for them, smartphone addition and smartphone zombies, obesity, and many more.
     
     And perhaps we still need something like Fedi and the millions of instances as a little middleground between Web 2.0's centralized dystopia and Web 1.0's decentralized awesomeness.
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     @digdeeper @Freefromfall @Suzu @hakui @neatchee @ryo @wolfie I heard them complain about it being expensive as well. Which is interesting considering that the governments that they support brag about it being "free", and they are all for the government paying inflated prices for their stuff.
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     The price is inflated by 20 times the amount of the cost of production. But there should not even be a single dose given of this stuff, so what does it matter? And the anarchocommunists ignore this.
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     @Suzu @wolfie @TerminalAutism @ryo @hakui @Freefromfall @neatchee
     
     There is an easier explanation, namely that they plan their conspiracies years in advance. See Event 201 but that had to be planned in itself, so the real start date was probably like 2017-2018.
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     @digdeeper @Freefromfall @Suzu @hakui @neatchee @ryo @wolfie Of course. But the point is, even by their standards, they still fail. They (the so-called "left") are fine with government paying inflated prices for everything else, so why not this?
     
     And it's probably more inflated than that, because they had these things ready for a very long time. Apparently Pfizer was already testing them in 2017, way before the fake disease even "existed". And if you think about it, should it even be possible for them to produce two doses of anything for the entire world's population in such a small amount of time? And then they made even more! How many boosters are they up to now? 4?
     
     And I heard before that they want people to take 500 fucking shots until 2030, so if that's true, it will get much much worse. Bill Gates talked early on about how it would be 10 shots a year, if my memory is correct.
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     @TerminalAutism @wolfie @digdeeper @ryo @hakui @Freefromfall @neatchee well, to be fair "corona virus" is a relatively known virus type, it makes sense for companies to be testing drugs and vaccines against it before 2019.
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     @digdeeper @wolfie @TerminalAutism @ryo @hakui @Freefromfall @neatchee @Suzu Once in a blue moon, I do check what /leftypol/ is up to, and last time I checked (which was a while ago), they were against the vaccine and all the COVID mandates.

     But I wish those guys (along with people on the other side) would also realize that Antifa is another psy-op.

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     @ryo @digdeeper @Freefromfall @Suzu @hakui @neatchee @wolfie The whole left and right thing is complete nonsense. A lot of people are in a cult, and they will stay on some imaginary "team" regardless of what it pushes, and no matter which "team" "wins", the people running the game win. Politics is basically just reality TV, to distract the masses. Anyway, the people resisting the system today, even having the exact same positions that they have today, would have been labeled as "left-wing" in the 2000s. Hell, a lot of people supported Trump for the same reasons that a lot of people supported Obama.
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     @digdeeper @Suzu @Freefromfall @TerminalAutism @hakui @neatchee @wolfie There are many different start dates, some people suggest 2012 at the London Olympics opening ceremony.
     Others suggest somewhere in the early 2000s at the Brazilian Olympics.
     Some others even claimed 1994 with some artwork at some airport in the USSA.
     Others point out that 9/11 was the start date.
     I even heard someone saying it started all the during the last great reset, or after the nazi's lost WWII.
     
     But regardless of when the whole plan started, at least we can all agree that it was planned in advance.
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     @digdeeper @Suzu @Freefromfall @hakui @neatchee @ryo @wolfie Well, yeah, the fact that it was planned is not even debatable, with Event 201 plus this:
     https://yewtu.be/watch?v=puqaaeLnEww
     https://www.bitchute.com/video/XNRY9xEgkWgo/
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     @digdeeper @wolfie @TerminalAutism @ryo @hakui @Freefromfall @neatchee @Suzu

     170 'nations' (corporation legal fictions) signed up tax cattle up to Agenda 21 in 1991-1992

     It was never going to change no matter who you voted for

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