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   Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 16:28:24 JST Hoss Delgado
   Fun fact: If literally everybody gets a $120,000 base income just for doing nothing, prices for everything go up exponentially. It seems the AI eggheads are unable to wrap their head around this simple reality of economics.
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     Flanker (flanker@decayable.ink)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 16:39:01 JST Flanker

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     @Hoss >chatgpt niggas didn't even ask chatgpt
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 16:47:15 JST Hoss Delgado

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     Don't worry, AI will provide. That's only ~30.56% more than the entire GDP of the United States.
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     Harblinger (harblinger@wizard.casa)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 16:57:58 JST Harblinger

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     @Hoss @Flanker the secret ingredient is depopulation :remilia_smiley:

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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 16:59:17 JST Hoss Delgado

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     Funny how the WEF needs natives of first world nations to stop breeding while insisting at the very same time that said nations take in the surplus of completely unrestrained third world overpopulation. Almost like there's a replacement of some kind going on, but that would be racist, I would never imply such a thing.
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     Reitoei (idoru@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 17:03:15 JST Reitoei

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     @Hoss @Flanker @harblinger stop breeding because there are too many people, but there's a population crash coming and not enough workers to support the country's standard of living, so we need to ship in thousands of military-aged men and not anyone else to make sure the GDP machine goes brrrrrr.
     
     #StopNoticing
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 17:06:00 JST Hoss Delgado

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     The climate crisis is an existential threat, but we also need to import gorillions of third worlders to the first world which will increase the carbon footprint of said individuals in kind.
     #StopNoticing
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 17:11:04 JST Hoss Delgado

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     I honestly can't fathom the wisdom in holding Treasuries at this point. The catastrophic levels of debt we're in should make anybody wary of them, but I guess there's enough boomers around in finance to ignore the parade of red flags before them. Even Warren Buffett is holding much of his dry powder in Treasuries, and historically he's been pretty sharp to identify vulnerabilities in his positions.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 17:11:06 JST cjd

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     Devalue the USD to zero, everyone holding treasuries, thanks for playing 😏
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     Harblinger (harblinger@wizard.casa)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 17:13:00 JST Harblinger

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     @Hoss @Flanker @Idoru the saddest thing I've seen the past couple days is Japan importing the third world. Seemed like one of the last places that would do something like that

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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 17:14:11 JST Hoss Delgado

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     Unfortunately, it's looking like Japan will spend at least a decade learning this lesson the hard way and then be left with a state of affairs that is harder to fix than it would have been to prevent, much as we all did.
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 17:23:09 JST lainy

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     @Hoss not true if AI raised productivity enormously. Either way UBI is retarded and not needed anyway.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 17:25:17 JST Hoss Delgado

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     Look, I got plenty of gripes with Angloids, but this is 100% jew bullshit starting to fall apart at the seams.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 17:25:18 JST cjd

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     Every central bank in the world holds them for defending their local currency. So as long as the US can continue to accelerate their borrowing they will, but as soon as they can't - you can bet they'll collapse the currency and fuck everyone over because the Anglo-American is the geopolitical scorpion, he cannot NOT fuck everyone over.
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 17:27:41 JST lainy

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     @Ree @Hoss depends on productivity. But if productivity really rises so much that and UBI like that would be possible, every job would already pay a ton and would be easy to do.
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     Ree (ree@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 17:27:42 JST Ree

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     @lain @Hoss wouldn't ubi make things like inflation worse?
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 17:32:21 JST lainy

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     @Ree @Hoss idk i know plenty of slackers. There would be a lot more streamers and other entertainers, I think.
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     Ree (ree@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 17:32:22 JST Ree

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     @lain @Hoss I'm just thinking like say if they gave everyone a thousand dollars. You would think things like food would go up. But I also think people would still work because being at home would be boring.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 17:32:41 JST Hoss Delgado

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     AI would need to raise productivity to the point where the production of goods whose value is dictated by physical scarcity exponentially grows to the point where it can absorb the cash influx of everybody getting paid at least $120,000/yr. Considering that's more or less fantasy on the same level as the spontaneous invention of the replicator from Star Trek, all that would really happen is Weimar-esque hyperinflation, no matter how much productivity gains AI actually delivers.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 17:52:13 JST Hoss Delgado

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     The thing about money that you'll never be able to fix with any utopian ideals is that at the end of the day it only has value because a few people have a lot and a great deal of others don't have much. Increase base income to $120,000/yr and the value of $120,000 essentially becomes zero.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 17:57:04 JST Hoss Delgado

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     You underestimate the staggeringly massive amount of normies who would spend all day jerking off and smoking opium if all other material responsibilities of existence were removed from their concerns.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:02:07 JST Hoss Delgado

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     Sounds like you could divulge some extremely problematic hypotheses from these studies.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:02:08 JST cjd

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     This was actually tested in the past, and depending on the situation you're both right.
     
     In rural farming areas, modest UBI was shown to work, it injected money into the economy which resulted in more people starting businesses and more overall success.
     
     But in other cases, UBI was shown to make everyone lazy / drunk / do nothing.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:02:47 JST cjd

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     I think the correct takeaway is that it works in communities of people who are already productive, FOR A WHILE... At first they become much more productive, but then over time they will drop out one by one.
     
     If the community is already largely unproductive then this just makes them more unproductive.
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:03:43 JST lainy

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     @cjd @Hoss @Ree I don’t think supporting unproductive people will be much of an issue. It’s already being done on a large scale in all developed countries either through social programs or government jobs.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:21:57 JST cjd

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     The incentive for having kids should obviously be a reduction of income tax because the people who pay the most income tax are the ones the country would most want to have more of...
     
     But I think the West (esp. USA) suffers from collective UBI, in the form of free shit from China and ability to print the world's reserve currency. The same way UBI corrupts the individual, reserve currency corrupts the collective.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:21:58 JST Hoss Delgado

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     At some point we're going to need to address the elephant in the room that is the practice of financially rewarding people living off benefits for having children. Frankly, it's the primary reason I'm not a pro-life hardliner, as much as I find abortion distasteful I'd rather the dole-grifters be economically compelled to abort than reward them for shitting out another kid that's destined for the same fate.
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     LordOfTheKangs (lordofthekangs@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:22:18 JST LordOfTheKangs

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     @cjd @lain @Hoss @Ree You mean offices where women take over suffer horrific attrition levels because men end up having to do the work of 5 or 6 employees?
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:22:18 JST cjd

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     That's a different effect, it's pretty well documented here: https://substack.com/@barsoom/p-150318209
     
     Men want to compete with men, in male-dominated fields. Men who compete with women are universally derided as losers, so once a space becomes "significantly female", there is nothing to be gained by competing in that space, and what men remain jump ship.
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     Wrath (eiswald@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:23:01 JST Wrath

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     @cjd @Hoss @lain @Ree Can confirm, I started a farming company on the heels of covid money.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:28:48 JST Hoss Delgado

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     I have no problem with a reduction of income tax for productive individuals who have children, but people living on public benefits should not be awarded any additional money for procreating.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:36:42 JST Hoss Delgado

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     In the USSR, being unemployed was illegal. They'd have you do something, even if it was pointless. I think they got that one right, it's better than just letting people sit at home and collect NEETbux.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:36:43 JST cjd

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     Exactly, in fact if we are to keep the institution of public benefits, they should be linked to SOME kind of work. Even if that work is picking up trash on the ground, it needs to be something.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:40:42 JST cjd

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     I think most people would. BTC to 1mn$ 🌝
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     Ree (ree@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:40:44 JST Ree

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     @Eiswald @lain @cjd @Hoss yeah I would probably treat ubi like covid money
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     Wrath (eiswald@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:41:28 JST Wrath

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     @cjd @lain @Hoss @Ree >so I'm quite confident they will do whatever they can to dump the gold price.
     They've done everything in their power to suppress the value (against the USD) of gold and even silver through the trillions of dollars in PPM (Paper Precious Metals) scams.
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     Wrath (eiswald@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:41:30 JST Wrath

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     @cjd @Ree @lain @Hoss BTC would absolutely go to 1mn but not for a good reason, I think most cryptos would. If its 'value' is that high it effectively means the dollar has become worthless since it tracks so well with dollar devaluation.
     
     I'm personal more likely to stack boomer rocks which retain their intrinsic value.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:41:30 JST cjd

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     USD grift makes sense because US govt is able to borrow at an ever accelerating rate, never actually paying off anything. As soon as the world is no longer willing to take in enough US treasuries to support acceleration of borrowing, the govt will trash the USD one millisecond later because at that point it serves them nothing and dumping it will scam their geopolitical adversaries.
     
     Gold however, is also held by their geopolitical adversaries (in significant quantities) - so I'm quite confident they will do whatever they can to dump the gold price.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:44:46 JST Hoss Delgado

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     And it's becoming increasingly ineffective for both. For gold, it's because central banks are finding it increasingly superior to US Treasuries. For silver, it's because the green energy silver boom promoted by the very same globohomo interests profiting off silver price manipulation lead to them forcing themselves into a corner where far more silver is being consumed for solar panels than is currently being dug out of the ground.
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     LordOfTheKangs (lordofthekangs@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:47:17 JST LordOfTheKangs

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     @Hoss @Eiswald @lain @cjd @Ree 5 more years and the above ground industrial stocks will be depleted at the current rate.
     Never forget
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     LordOfTheKangs (lordofthekangs@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:54:30 JST LordOfTheKangs

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     @Hoss @Eiswald @lain @cjd @Ree That's the USGS's estimate btw
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:54:40 JST Hoss Delgado

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     Every argument against playing the silver market hinges on the past, as if I give a shit about the price performance from 1980 or even 2011. I only got in a couple years ago because the looming supply crunch is obvious to anybody who looks at the numbers. Silver only really started getting interesting in the 2020's.
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:58:54 JST lainy

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     @cjd @Hoss @Ree machines can do that just fine. Abundance will either reach insane levels or societies will crash, either way the active and ambitious man will prosper so I’m not too worried.
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     LordOfTheKangs (lordofthekangs@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 18:59:47 JST LordOfTheKangs

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     @Hoss @lain @cjd @Eiswald @Ree It was extremely interesting after the $50 crash down to $12 an ounce over the counter in the 2010s. If you got in then in a big way everything is looking fantastic.
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     @lain @Hoss @Ree I know myself enough I would not go into a 9 to 5 again if I didn't have to, not that it ever really was 9 to 5 for me. But it's not like I was that productive at my job anyway, so really, what would be lost?
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     @lain @Hoss @Ree Sounds like everyone wins!
     
     Honestly, that would also happen if both productivity AND absolute compensation rises enough. Once basic necessities are fulfilled, people would spend on luxuries like entertainment, making becoming an entertainer more viable.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 19:04:27 JST Hoss Delgado

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     The paper had more control over the market back then. The bullion banks won't be able to do the same thing this time unless the world completely stops building solar panels. HSBC already admitted defeat when they recently revised their price projections for silver.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 19:08:06 JST cjd

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     I would expect more out of silver than gold, but I wouldn't expect it to go stratospheric vs. other commodities because at the end of the day, it is an industrial commodity and when a commodity goes up too much, other stuff breaks.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 19:08:45 JST Hoss Delgado

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     I expect silver to run to $75, but if there's a mania I could see it running decently north of $100. Regardless, I doubt it bottoms below $50 when all is said and done.
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     LordOfTheKangs (lordofthekangs@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 19:10:14 JST LordOfTheKangs

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     @Hoss @lain @cjd @Eiswald @Ree Don't look at price projections. Look at consumption & demand projections VS current supplies and forecasted additional new production.
     The burn rate is even faster than you think.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 19:11:18 JST cjd

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     Whatever you expect to be the steady state price, you could reasonably see 400% of that in a commodity shock. We saw that with natgas and power in Europe.
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     @Hoss @lain @cjd @Ree I disagree. Pointless work erodes the soul. It's bad enough when you're disconnected from the fruit of your labor, if you're work makes no sense other than keep you busy and you know it, it will just depress you. I would rather have people receive money for free than keep them in unproductive employment. This whole argument hinges on work being good for people and people being entirely unaware of it. That might be true for a small minority but if digging holes and filling them in again was actually good for them, I believe they would just do it themselves. In fact, you could argue exercise is kind of like that.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 19:13:38 JST Hoss Delgado

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     The key with commodity bull plays is to be positioned in equities that offer leveraged exposure to the price appreciation to make the most of it.
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 19:15:15 JST lainy

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     @Hoss @cjd @Eiswald @LordOfTheKangs @Ree just buy some btc, gold and tech stocks and relax
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 19:17:26 JST lainy

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     @cjd @Eiswald @LordOfTheKangs @Hoss @Ree I don’t think so but even without it it’s hard to go wrong with btc and gold
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 19:17:27 JST cjd

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     Hate tech stocks because it's all fake 😡
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     >I would rather have people receive money for free than keep them in unproductive employment.
     If these people are so useless that there's nothing else you can do with them, you might as well put them to work as fertilizer. As I said earlier, we're talking about swaths of the population that would jerk off and smoke opium all day if they didn't have to do anything else.
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 19:19:35 JST lainy

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     @Hoss @cjd @Ree @besserwisser at some point the personal, subjective value is so much larger than some abstract objective value that it doesn’t matter. I’d keep my family alive and well, if they worked or not, because they bring me joy.
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     Wrath (eiswald@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 19:19:58 JST Wrath

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     @cjd @lain @LordOfTheKangs @Hoss @Ree All stocks are fake and gay. A ton of people have a really hard time separating the stock market from the actual economy.
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     Best risk v. reward. There are altcoins which will perform a lot better, but they're risky. BTC is lowest risk and it still goes up.
     
     > controlled by investment banks
     
     It's not "controlled" by them because they can't extend the number of BTC beyond the 21mn limit...
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     @lain @Hoss @cjd @Eiswald @Ree Why would anyone but the most monitored crypto currency in the world? It's already controlled by investment banks
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     Ultimately if these decisions ever start having to be made, I highly doubt they will be left up to you or I.
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     @Hoss @cjd @Ree @besserwisser I do tbh, most people just go with the flow and have zero ability to make decisions, but I can fly out my family and pay for them for life as long as btc goes up a few more years…
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Monday, 25-Aug-2025 19:22:38 JST cjd

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     I think the point is that killing off a swath of the population by erecting a large scale Universe25 is still killing off a large swath of the population...
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     Bold of you to assume there will be a place you can escape.
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     @Hoss @Ree @besserwisser @cjd like, if you live in a retirement home in Germany, “insurance “ will pay like 6k a month for you. If you instead move to Thailand you can have a house by the sea with a full time caretaker for 2k. People don’t do it because they are set in their way.
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     @Hoss @cjd @Ree @besserwisser living in galt’s gulf does that to you
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     @lain @cjd @Hoss @Ree I know some people who moved to Thailand for retirement. It's something I would consider doing for work, if I could find a remote job which paid enough. But I struggle to find and do work in the first place.
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     >There's plenty of trenches that should be dug up or holes to be filled.
     Sure, I presume the benefits cattle would be made to dig trenches or fill holes that serve a productive purpose, should there be one.
     >But I also want some kind of safety net for people who genuinely can't work anymore.
     This was the purpose of disability before it got taken over by grifters with meme conditions and the mentally ill. If I had my way the grifters would starve and the mentally ill would enjoy their public benefits in a padded room for the rest of their lives.
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     @Hoss @lain @cjd @Ree If you can put them to unproductive work, you could probably also give them actually productive work. There's plenty of trenches that should be dug up or holes to be filled. But I also want some kind of safety net for people who genuinely can't work anymore. Or would you throw people in the wood chipper once they had a work accident which made them unable to continue their previous work? There's just gonna be a disagreement over what's an "acceptable" reason to not having to do work anymore.
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     @hakui @cjd @Eiswald @LordOfTheKangs @Hoss @Ree there’s still always a stop, you can’t manipulate a real asset forever.
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     @cjd @LordOfTheKangs @lain @Eiswald @Hoss @Ree it's controlled because they have enough capital to put a large enough volume order that will trigger a cascade of stop losses that brokers offer as a feature for any sufficiently financialized instrument
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     The two biggest Bitcoin miners currently control enough hashrate for a 51% attack. The most valuable Bitcoin becomes, the more financial sense it makes to do it. Food for thought.
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     @Hoss @cjd @Eiswald @LordOfTheKangs @Ree @hakui 51% attacks don’t allow you to do random stuff like double spending, they allow you to destroy the network. I guess if someone wants to spend a trillion dollars to destroy bitcoin, they can do it, but I just don’t see it as realistic.
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     @hakui @cjd @lain @Eiswald @Hoss @Ree You get it. BTC has been under institutional capture since covid.
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     @hakui @cjd @Eiswald @LordOfTheKangs @Hoss @Ree poor holdrs living off their 80% gain a year while trump and pelosi pocket the 100x gainz
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     @lain @Eiswald @Hoss @LordOfTheKangs @Ree @cjd they don't have to have it going one direction forever
     they trade off it, not hodl them
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     Let's assume a future where Bitcoin's total capitalization is equivalent to Gold's (~23T). If there was a way right now to spend a trillion dollars and make all the gold in the world literally vanish, somebody would do it.
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     @cjd @lain @Eiswald @Hoss @Ree So... you think BTC is going to 150,000x again? Do you have a forecast on when that will happen?
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     In real terms, no. It's like 2 trillion market cap right now, and 20 trillion is possible, but 300 trillion is impossible.
     
     Of course if the USD is printed to worthless, it could be worth anything, but that's why I said "in real terms"...
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     @cjd @lain @LordOfTheKangs @Hoss @Ree That's the best part. The USD is already worth less than itself the moment that it's printed because of usury.
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     >It really wouldn't be hard to send this country back to the stone age for awhile with a small amount of coordination and planning.
     20 years from now if a substation gets destroyed they'll probably have to fly in contractors from the other side of the world just to get it operational again.
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     @LordOfTheKangs @Hoss @lain @cjd @Ree @besserwisser Funnily enough they also assume that actions like that won't result in targeted assassinations and 4th generational warfare terrorist attacks on their infrastructure. It really wouldn't be hard to send this country back to the stone age for awhile with a small amount of coordination and planning.
     
     Hell, we're already getting into the targeted assassinations phase and they're desperate to keep it out of the media because they already know how celebrated every one of their deaths is by the general population.
     
     God it was funny watching them squirm and blast out article after article of condemnations at the people who supported what Luigi did. Now some Blackstone cunt is dead, likely for the same reason but not admittedly, and they're real fucking quiet about it.
     
     No. Kikes, (((asset managers))), and bankers need to start dying and need to keep dying until we can afford a house.
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     @Hoss @lain @cjd @Ree @besserwisser > we have to drone strike your 20 acre property that only pays taxes through post tax capital gains or the terrorists will win
     > this military action was approved through the federal anti BDS act of 2027
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     Me too of course, but it is a fact that anyone who can 3d print a train derailer, read placards, and read a watershed map, can do tens of billions of dollars worth of damage by making city water supplies undrinkable.
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     @Eiswald @Hoss @lain @cjd @Ree @besserwisser I denounce fedposting. I do not agree with anything that was stated. I plead the 5th ammendment to anything that was poasted in reply to my satirical green text.
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     Worrying about someone coming to take what you've got is a whole different story than trying to find a good ROI.
     
     If you're worried about coming taking what you've got then you've already fucked it by talking about crypto online. In a Mad Max scenario, they'll get your passphrases out of you or they'll kill you trying.
     
     In a non-Mad-Max scenario, it doesn't matter who knows what, it's just about trying to be in the best risk/return ratio you can.
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     @cjd @lain @Eiswald @Hoss @Ree Why would you want to hold the most monitored asset in the history of the world if hyper inflation occurred?
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     Nice longpost on that:
     
     Middle-class leftists don't really understand the difference between wealth and money.
     
     That's because what they have is a job as a retarded commie journalist, which pays them money, which they put in the bank before spending it on Funko Pops, cannabis, dildos, and tofu.
     
     They think wealth is "more money". And when they think about "more money", they think about all the Funko Pops they want but can't afford, and about how Elon Musk can afford more Funko Pops than he could ever use, that is if Funko Pops could be used for anything, which they can't, unless you count leftists' strange propensity for putting unexpected things in places they do not belong.
     
     They don't understand that Elon Musk doesn't have some sort of special titanium credit bank card connected to a bank account with 260,000,000,000 munnies in it, for the buying of Funko Pops.
     
     What he has is some businesses he started, and a bunch of dudes whose job it is to guess the value of things have arrived at the consensus that they are worth that much. That guess changes by the hour.
     
     Leftists can't really wrap their heads around this idea, not in the intuitive sense that would allow them to engage with it as a concept. They can't imagine what it would be like to be in that position.
     
     Why not?
     
     Because if they could, they wouldn't be leftists. In fact, many people can, and therefore are not leftists, so leftists are really just the group of people who are self-selected for not being able to figure this out.
     
     This is why they can, without blushing, describe "reusable space launch capability" as "unnecessary wealth".
     
     They don't understand that if you took every share of SpaceX away from Elon Musk, and all the other shareholders, it would still be valued at 200 billion dollars (or whatever it is on the day you are reading this), but it would not magically transform into 200 billion one-dollar bills that you could give to left-wing journalists to buy more Funko Pops with. It would still be a bunch of factories, and designs, and offices, and employment contracts, and rocket engines, and stuff.
     
     The reality is that the earn-spend-consume model of money that retarded leftist commie journos are familiar with has an upper limit. Once you've spent on much on yourself as you want, a ceiling which varies depending on your character, you need a new source of meaning and purpose in life.
     
     You need to develop different ambitions.
     
     Then your spending becomes not about what you want to have, but what you want to create. You build the things you want to see in the world.
     
     This is where money becomes wealth. Money is used to buy things. Wealth is used to build things.
     
     When you create something that a lot of people care about, it's valued at a huge amount of money, because money is a measure of fucks given.
     
     So maybe, when you have enough money to buy a mansion and a yacht, you decide that what you really want is "reusable space launch capability", because you're a nerd who reads science fiction, and so you think it's a kind of dumb idea for humanity to spend all its time on one tiny dust speck in an infinite universe.
     
     So you buy some computers and you hire some dudes who are good at designing things on computers, and then you buy some metal, and hire some dudes who are good at cutting metal and sticking it together, and pretty soon you're the proud owner of whole bunch of stuff.... computers and factories and tanks full of liquid oxygen and launch pads and most importantly, rocket boosters.
     
     And no Funko Pops. Not a single one.
     
     Now, it's worth more money than you started with, because the people who guess the value of things (it's called a "stock market") are starting to agree that this was maybe a pretty good idea.
     
     So, on paper, you're richer than you ever were. But that's your not bank account, or your Funko Pop collection. That's the fact that you now control humanity's effort to leave the gravity well. And you control it because you built it in the first place.
     
     Wealth inequality is a measure of technological progress.
     
     It doesn't exist in low-tech societies where everyone is chasing antelope with a throwing stick and a stone-tipped spear. Because no one invents anything and there's nothing to own.
     
     And it peaks in high-tech societies where enterprising people create entire economies ex nihilo by investing in a wild idea. Because things are being invented and people give a fuck about them, and so the innovators have a much higher net worth than the people who sit around eating processed snack foods and shopping for Funko Pops on the internet.
     
     Reducing wealth inequality is a disaster, and typically requires one. If you reduce wealth inequality in a free market, you are either outright destroying growth enterprises, or transferring control of them to non-producers.
     
     Which is what leftists really are. Useless journo flacks and cloistered academics who want to tear down the engines of tech innovation so they can buy more middle class consumer goods, until they tear down the engines that produce those, too.
     
     The most important task in all of economics is keeping people who don't get shit done out of the way of people who do.
     
     Leave humanity's orbital launch capability alone, Zaid.
     
     It is already in the hands of the people who are best qualified to operate it. We know that because they are ones who built it in the first place.
     
     Das computermachine ist nicht fuer gefingerpoken und mittengrabben bei das doomkompfen. Ist easy schnappen der springenverk.
     
     Src: https://x.com/Devon_Eriksen_/status/1811272099647967330
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     @Hoss thats why I never understood the retarded "if [rich guy] gave EVERYONE one million he'd STILL be a billionaire and EVERYTHING would be fixed"??? No?? Put that money into public infrastructure? Put that money into businesses and industries worth investing in that would benefit from pricier machinery to up production and worker safety?? Is every leftie fucking retarded and irredeemably so?
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     @jeffcliff @Hoss kill yourself you suicide cultist commie bastard :]
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     @f0x @Hoss No, we aren't. Also :KysRope:
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     @f0x @jeffcliff @Hoss
     
     Amen.
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     To be totally fair to the nips, they're less likely to fall for being called racists for kicking out niggers.
     
     To also be fair, the nips are the Asians most likely to collapse under nigger pressure before being able to fix it.
     
     A major benefit for them is making citizenship extremely difficult for non Japanese. 5 years uninterrupted living in Japan with less than 100 days in that time outside the country. You also have to be self-sufficient, if you're taking handouts you're not eligible. You also are expected to be able to speak, read, and write Japanese at a third grade level.
     
     No birthright citizenship unless at least one parent is Japanese. No dual citizenship either which keeps the Jews at bay. No criminal record keeps niggers from citizenship.
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     I think when the Japanese really start to find themselves cornered they're going to react far more aggressively than most of Europe has.
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     Not even hafus are culturally considered actually Japanese, so I hear.
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     @Hoss @Flanker @Beefki @harblinger there's no way to infiltrate and be a "crypto-jap" and (((pretend))) to be something other.
     
     "I was born here".
     
     "yeah but you're not Japanese".
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     >Leftists can't really wrap their heads around this idea, not in the intuitive sense that would allow them to engage with it as a concept. They can't imagine what it would be like to be in that position.
     Most of them will never know what it's like to have any kind of asset more significant than a car.
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     > sadly elon's a retard
     
     Imma just stop you right there, uhh, Elon's a billionaire, and you're not, right? And that's, what, because you don't want to be?
     
     Oh, no, maybe you're gonna say he's super lucky like some dude that just won the lottery, right?
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     @cjd @Hoss sadly elon's a retard who picked up the pieces on startups he didn't start and is a fucking retard but I get the gist of what this guy is trying to say. To use Elon as an example is like using Floyd as an example of police brutality, though. What you're talking about exists but that guy sucked
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     He impregnates random BPD foids as a hobby, that's pretty retarded behavior.
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     @Hoss @cjd I honestly dont even think the crack addicted bpd whore was in the wrong. He named her kids absolutely retarded things and no doubt is a terrible father.
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