i am posting this unredacted in the interest of transparency with poast and its users.
this morning i received a call from the lawyer that established our LLC in Wyoming informing me that we have received a subpoena. this subpoena was filed on behalf of the north datoka human rights coalition, "immigrant development center" and doe against members they suspect are involved with patriot front. they have given me 6 days to comply.
it is a civil case in federal court in north dakota. they are requesting user data we don't have (request 3/4) due to data retention policies and public data available to literally anybody.
it looks like a fishing attempt against the users involved in the suit, and i have spent the morning on the phone with ~30 lawyers in Colorado, Wyoming and North Dakota to find somebody to help me object to this. no help as of yet.
@ins0mniak@tyler@PoastSupport@graf you are probably gayer than me. I even posted my image on here. No longer being anonymous. Take some balls to deanonymize yourself with the things I said on here. Meanwhile you hide with a non known cat image, cuck
@ins0mniak@tyler@PoastSupport@graf well, it's pretty gay, have you noticed the amount of troon culture you exported to Europe. The whole feminism and LGBT movement was born in US and Europe adopted it
@ins0mniak@tyler@PoastSupport@graf US is pretty gay, but in this particular aspect Europe is probably gayer, there's at least some law providing some speech freedom in US.
Lmao they have no idea the cluster fuck which is the pleroma database is and how outrageous of a command this is.
All the information, except for IP addresses (which you dont retain) they can literally just go to their user pages in a web browser. Retards.
However, you can request that the individuals seeking the subpoena pays for the recovery of the electronic information, respond with a "to get the information you requested will take longer and be quite expensive due to the nature of how information is stored in the database, which may cost up to $40,000 and take six weeks, and due to our data retention policy, may not provide you with the information desired. However, if that is prohibitively expensive, most of the information requested can be found by going to the URLs you requested Poast LLC dump information about, using any modern web browser."
They never asked you how much it would cost to produce the information they requested, so they are not even following their own federal civil procedure.
@Humpleupagus@DeezMistaReez@rlier23@PoastSupport@p yeah everybody i've talked to says get a lawyer but none of them will deal with it. called lawyers in colorado, they told me to call wyoming. call lawyers in wyoming, they tell me to call north dakota, north dakota lawyer tells me i need somebody registered for federal in wyoming and north dakota
i just want to be pointed at somebody and say here is money make it go away
I wish I could say more, but I can't because I'm not licensed in that state.
I will say that I'd get counsel. That subpoena has several defects and is objectionable.
If Graf can't find counsel, I'd go on pacer, see if the other party has counsel (since he's likely friendlier) and contact him to see if maybe he knows anyone.
I'd look in North Dakota. That's where the case is pending, so the attorney must be barred there (unless admitted pro hac vice. But fuck that. Your counsel would still need local counsel). Federal Bar membership at that court is required, but any member of the North Dakota Stare Bar can get that by simple application, which is rubber stamped, and every lawyer I know does that for their local district court. So that's a non-issue.
I don't see how where your llc was formed has an relevance here. If a Florida LLC gets sued in California, I can represent them here.
@istvan@Hoss you send the court a letter that you searched your records and found zero matching results; it's what the government does whenever they are fobbing off FOIA.
Assuming its not a topic where you really do have records on hand or there is some mandatory retention law (which are becoming increasingly common.)
Ok... so how does intending to request every ip related to those accounts (and I'm not saying this is actually what's requested on a careful read), relate to what is at base simple vandalism?
> Homosexuals vandalized my store. I want every ip at grindr.
Seems a bit overbroad.
The problem here is the the court seems friendly to the plaintiffs. You can read it in his words.
@graf@Humpleupagus@DeezMistaReez@rlier23@PoastSupport@p thats probably why they did it from that random ass location. is there a way to look at old cases these whoresons have filed? doubt patriot front and you are the first 2 times they have been active. maybe you can contact someone else that had to defend themselves from these people.
What a good attorney would do is make an account, find the specific posts that relate to the case, and request information about those posts.
Even if they got every ip, what are they going to do, contact everyone who ever interacted with post, including guys like Jeff Cliff and Swiss Lolbertarian to waterboard them until they admit they're part of some grand, alt-right conspiracy to vandalize a store?
I'm being an ass here, but I think you get the idea. The IPs could be of anyone. Even LGBTQ who were arguing with poast users. Do the really want to unmask their ips?
@icedquinn >mandatory retention law Need to start embracing protocols and standards/norms that retain nothing or otherwise anonymize everything. @istvan@Hoss
@graf@p@PoastSupport It's perfectly acceptable to respond to a subpoena with "We do not have any information responsive to this subpoena due to data retention policies", as long as it's not a lie and you didn't either take an action to erase it in response to the subpoena or knowingly delay response until you knew it'd be erased by a cron job