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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 15:41:35 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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> Top employer: Healthcare

> Can't actually get healthcare

SMFH

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  MasterSimper (mastersimper@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 15:46:29 JST MasterSimper
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  Makes sense since most women go into healthcare
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 15:46:29 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  It explains why modern Healthcare is like a call center. Everyone you talk to just refers you to someone else, and they all promise something will get done sometime in the future, but nothing ever happens, you get angry, and just want to hang up the phone.
  
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  djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 15:48:44 JST djsumdog
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  Most preventative care is unnecessary too and they tend to find "things" that would be fine if left alone. Insurance companies kept pushing preventative care to reduce costs but it's literally made the whole situation worse.
  
  I don't trust most modern medicine anyway and haven't gone to a doctor since 2019. I always do the HSA plan and roll them over when I leave a job. There's a lot packed away in there.
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 15:52:56 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  Doctors don't provide patients care anymore. I don't do med mal, but I could tell you stories just from people I know. Most doctors are incompetent and don't do shit, and patients get the run around.
  
  What's worse is now that the profession is a necessary part of the economy, the focus will be on unions and job tenure and not patient care. It'll be to medicine what the public school system is to education. They won't do shit other than babysit and placate you until you die, while charging God awful sums of money.
  
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  ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 15:52:57 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
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  @Humpleupagus @lain Well that; and in what does “healthcare” really consist ? ie the Quality consideration ? Not too long ago ”healthcare availability” was more or less synonymous with “vax availability”.
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 15:54:36 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  I just wish all states would at least adopt AZ's policy of allowing anyone to order any lab they want without a doctor being involved. That's a start for the more educated amongst us.
  
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  chitchatkat1 (chitchatkat1@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 20:24:30 JST chitchatkat1
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  @Humpleupagus @djsumdog @MasterSimper @lain there are websites now you can order labs from direct. then take your paperwork to their participating labs.
  also, many many foreigners in healthcare, especially Indians.
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 20:28:58 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  Not legally here. And I'd prefer to use someone reliable like quest. An improper tube, anticoagulant, sample, or handling, and the results aren't reliable.
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 20:34:23 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  Quest diagnostics
  
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  chitchatkat1 (chitchatkat1@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 20:34:24 JST chitchatkat1
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  @Humpleupagus @djsumdog @MasterSimper @lain Quest labs?
  
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  chitchatkat1 (chitchatkat1@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 21:28:57 JST chitchatkat1
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  @Humpleupagus @djsumdog @MasterSimper @lain thats what I meant. ok so yeah, that is one of the companies these websites use.
  
  i forget sometimes how websites are not allowed in certain states, stuff like that.
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 21:28:57 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  Yeah. California allows some test without orders, like hiv, but they're statutorily exempt from the general doctors order requirement. Quest can't draw here or ship for self draws for all other non-exempt tests.
  
  I think it's absolute horse shit. I'm not asking anyone to interpret the test, which would require a medical license. I'm just testing the amount of a physical substance in my blood.
  
  When you think about it, the state puts you to a choice of paying a doctor to sign off or foregoing testing. So much for self-determination. You have to use the state jew or die.
  
  Imagine if the state required people to use attorneys to enter into contracts or to appear in court.
  
  > Excuse me, sir. Do you have an attorney's authorization for that contract?
  
  > Excuse me, sir. You must have an attorney to appear. You can't represent yourself. You're too stupid.
  
  That's basically what we do in the context of medical care, but the frogs have been in the pot since the 1920s. The rule historically has been no licenses or prescriptions required.
  
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  Mister_Sunshine (mister_sunshine@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 21:29:46 JST Mister_Sunshine
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  @chitchatkat1 @Humpleupagus @djsumdog @MasterSimper @lain This guy?
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 21:29:46 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 21:38:34 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  60 to 90 days out, while I pay $2k/mo for insurance. SMFH.
  
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  chitchatkat1 (chitchatkat1@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 21:38:35 JST chitchatkat1
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  @Humpleupagus @djsumdog @MasterSimper @lain insurance game $$ I remember going to the doc when a kid and you could see him for all your aliments in one visit. NOW, schedule an appointment for each issue -_-
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 22:19:27 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  Family of five. We don't qualify for group rates, because I'm self-employed and my wife doesn't count as an employee.
  
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  cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 22:19:28 JST cjd
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  Holy fuck, you buying health insurance for an entire city?!!
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 22:22:46 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  I can't drink. I have the gene on both sides of my family. If I have one.... I'm a fucking rock star. 🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃
  
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  Alexander Fog ✝️ :nv: (alex_fog@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 22:22:47 JST Alexander Fog ✝️ :nv:
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  i drink. feeling sick? vodka
  gotta hurl? vodka
  diarrhea? more vodka
  
  $12 a bottle is much cheaper than $2k. 🤓
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 22:37:12 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  Yeah. It's hard for people to grasp. Like... no, I can't have just one. Fortunately, as long as I don't start, I don't crave it, so it's not some spiritual battle for me. But I had my moments in college. Binge drinking a fifth myself was a common occurrence.
  
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  mjdigspigs (mjdigspigs@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 22:37:13 JST mjdigspigs
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  @Humpleupagus @djsumdog @MasterSimper @lain @Alex_Fog @chitchatkat1 All 4 Grandparents, Parents and all but, one Aunt caught it.
  
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  mjdigspigs (mjdigspigs@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 22:46:39 JST mjdigspigs
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  @chitchatkat1 @Humpleupagus @djsumdog @MasterSimper @lain I remember ours practiced out of her home.
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 22:46:39 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  Ours had a small office a few blocks away.
  
  It's actually Medicare and stark law that killed that practice.
  
  Basically, if a doctor collects even a single dollar of Medicare, they're bound by stark law in all contexts. Stark law has very strict rules and penalties for self-referrals, which can include simply sending a patient to your own nurse for a test. There are exemption for self-referrals in medical groups.
  
  So basically, stark made the regulatory risk of private practice too high and legally complicated, so doctors formed medical groups. Those medical groups got bought up.... wash, rinse, repeat and now you have monsters like kaiser.
  
  Don't ask me about how this changed malpractice and basically insulated doctors from a lot of liability (Kaiser kills people. It's a built in cost).
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 22:54:50 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  We're running out of White doctors here, they're moving out of state. Even the Jewish doctors are leaving California. It's all pajeets and Asians.
  
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  mjdigspigs (mjdigspigs@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 22:54:51 JST mjdigspigs
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  @Humpleupagus @djsumdog @MasterSimper @lain @chitchatkat1 There's a little clinic in town near me. I went to establish myself as a patient. It's really quite pleasant. All Whites. Got a blood work up and my anxiety meds. They also, do stitches and crap.
  
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  mjdigspigs (mjdigspigs@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 22:57:00 JST mjdigspigs
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  @Humpleupagus @djsumdog @MasterSimper @lain @chitchatkat1 They also, didn't even blink when I brought my little dog, Dillon, in with me. In fact they have a Standard Poodle running around.
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 23:10:30 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  The rules are so retarded. I operate as a S-corp, but because I'm an officer, I have to include my insurance (paid by corp) as compensation (subject to income tax, but not fica). So it goes on the W-2 at 24k a year. I get a 24k expense on the corporate return though.
  
  Then I have to deduct it as self-employment health insurance on my 1040, so -24k above the line.
  
  So there is a savings (expense on the corporate side effectively passed through on the K-1). But the math is all retarded. Just make it tax free like any other employee, but a corporate expense. It sums out the same.
  
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  cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 23:10:31 JST cjd
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  Man 2k/month, for that I'd tie up all my money in an LLC and go program-maxxing...
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 23:17:56 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  I used to read a lot of "choose your own adventure" books as a kid, so I'm pretty good at navigating the internal revenue code and regulations.
  
  But dealing with the IRS is a fucking nightmare. Their front line is an army of sheboons.
  
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  mjdigspigs (mjdigspigs@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 12-Jul-2025 23:17:57 JST mjdigspigs
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  @Humpleupagus @djsumdog @MasterSimper @lain @cjd @chitchatkat1 That would be too simple. They hate simple.
  
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  Your Loud, Obnoxious Skunkle Jesse (feralphilosophernc@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Jul-2025 22:09:29 JST Your Loud, Obnoxious Skunkle Jesse
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  It's really helpful, actually. A small advantage.
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Jul-2025 22:09:49 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  You don't have to pay a doctor tax for routine blood work.
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Jul-2025 22:23:25 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  They can't even recommend trying non-pharmaceutical solutions. Look up DMAE for adhd, fatigue, or early alzheimers, msm for hairloss, or berberine for insulin resistance, metabolic syndrome, high cholesterol, or high triglycerides. These are just a few otcs that actually work for many people. Doctors can't even mention them.
  
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  UnCL3 (uncl3@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Jul-2025 22:23:26 JST UnCL3
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  "none of these doctors know a thing about actual health other than how to make it worse with pharmaceuticals."
  
  Exhibit A: Zoloft & similar.
  
  Personal experience cited.
  
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  Your Loud, Obnoxious Skunkle Jesse (feralphilosophernc@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Jul-2025 22:23:27 JST Your Loud, Obnoxious Skunkle Jesse
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  Yup. It's nice. Especially because none of these doctors know a thing about actual health other than how to make it worse with pharmaceuticals.
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Jul-2025 22:34:45 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  How are those triglycerides? 🤔
  
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  Your Loud, Obnoxious Skunkle Jesse (feralphilosophernc@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Jul-2025 22:34:46 JST Your Loud, Obnoxious Skunkle Jesse
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  I have high cholesterol, but ask me about my triglycerides... 😏
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Jul-2025 22:42:27 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  Yeah. Triglycerides are like the ninja of energy storage. Is it a lipid, is it a carb? It's both.
  
  It's the combination that will get you. I just tend to watch my carb intake, lean meat heavy, and make sure I burn any excess sugars.
  
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  Your Loud, Obnoxious Skunkle Jesse (feralphilosophernc@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Jul-2025 22:42:28 JST Your Loud, Obnoxious Skunkle Jesse
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  Way low, man. Eat get to get rid of fat. When I was eating a lot of carbs and shit, it was a VERY generous number with both matrilineal and patrilineal families having history of heart disease.
  
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  Your Loud, Obnoxious Skunkle Jesse (feralphilosophernc@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Jul-2025 22:46:43 JST Your Loud, Obnoxious Skunkle Jesse
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  We try and stick to 3-1 fat to protein and no more than 50g carbs a day. I usually shoot for no more than 30g, personally.
  
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