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   Darren Nevares :vm: (darrennevares@mas.to)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 04:16:08 JST Darren Nevares :vm:

   So a short infographic I've been working based on the talks I've had over the weekend and when the 5 cups of coffee finally left my body.

   #Mastodon #Fediverse #infographic #resist

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     william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 04:16:06 JST william.maggos

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     imo you're overthinking it. few even slightly right survive on mainstream fedi because none of the major servers will federate with a server with such users. so those users/servers either become part of the separate fedi (jerk fedi) dominated by assholes who want to bother people and should not be allowed to, or they go to X, truth etc.

     I want a more politically diverse fedi. that will require moderation to focus only on abusive tagging, not saying bad or untrue things.

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     Account: Politics (union@mu.zaitcev.nu)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 04:16:16 JST Account: Politics

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     @wjmaggos @DarrenNevares The allure of the fun half of Fediverse can be fairly powerful. Naturally the fun side has its pitfalls even before the excommunication.
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 04:17:55 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @wjmaggos @union @DarrenNevares If mental healthcare wasn't rightfully seen as a cesspool in and of itself I'd agree with you. Ever look into the correlation between dark true personality traits and psychologists? Spoopy.
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     william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 04:17:57 JST william.maggos

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     @union @DarrenNevares

     our society would either cease to exist or have to become a police state if half of us enjoyed harassing others or watching it. a small portion of people get abused and deal with that by fucking with others instead of getting therapy. we should make mental health care cheaper and easier to get.

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     Account: Politics (union@mu.zaitcev.nu)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 04:18:15 JST Account: Politics

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     @DarrenNevares The section 7 is pretty funny. Truth Social never attempted to federate with anyone. It wasn't their plan at all.
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     LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 04:33:43 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     TLDR: we have 3 whitelisted and block-happy instances, therefore the entire network is safe.

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 04:37:16 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Why you're an AIDSnigger:
     
     Buttsex
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     Il D~uWu~ce (ilduwuce@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 07:48:35 JST Il D~uWu~ce

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     >Makes an infographic to denote how the far-right (a.k.a. mean opinions) fails on Mastodon
     >It's all basically proactive censorship or not realizing how the far-right leaning people have been making huge communities online that are just invisible due to said proactive censorship
     
     This nigga disproved himself by effortfagging a whole weekend :lamo:
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 07:53:14 JST Fish of Rage

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     • monkyyy
     @wjmaggos @monkyyy @DarrenNevares I tried but didn't do a great job of it, sorry. I am not gonna say we didn't have real harassment incidents, but it also turns out that a ton of people consider disagreeing with their objectively morally correct opinions are definitionally harassment so the concept you want just can't exist in reality even if it operated perfectly.
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     william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 07:53:16 JST william.maggos

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     @monkyyy @DarrenNevares

     I'm asking for a server/community of weirdos who maybe say shitty things to each other but strictly enforce a no harassing users on other servers policy. maybe it exists. I'm unaware of any even defined-as-conservative server that does that.

     I desperately want that. I want proof it can exist to be able to better make the case to mainstream fedi that my "we don't need to defederate for stuff you don't like cause you won't see it" is possible. I want more views here.

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     monkyyy (monkyyy@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 07:53:17 JST monkyyy

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     @wjmaggos @DarrenNevares I couldnt control others even if I wanted to(I dont, my sense of humor is just this negative); and these are not quite the mirror image your suggesting. I will willingly admit >50% of people here are assholes that I surround myself with, but the lefts cancel culture is often also harassing, organized and unforgiving.
     Unorganized rudeness, even extreme examples(which yes I'm aware of), doesn't censor speech the same way. Allot of this is defensible, if sad, defense mechanisms for the reality of people going back thru years of content and showing it to your source of food; work or sponcers. If your aware of someone on poast doxxing a trans kids and that the mods did nothing, tell me and Ill go shopping again.
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     I dont think that fedi itself is savable as a debate platform, nor should you try, this is twitter style; it will always be a bit short form and hostile.
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     monkyyy (monkyyy@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 07:53:19 JST monkyyy

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     @wjmaggos @DarrenNevares *blinks* ok I take it back; carry on.
     Know anywhere good to debate politics?
     
     > why do you have an account on poast?
     I feel more welcome with the guy who spams gay porn anime memes and gore posting of the "decayable" crowd then I do elsewhere. Im pretty anti social in truth.
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     william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 07:53:19 JST william.maggos

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     @monkyyy @DarrenNevares

     the good place to debate politics could be a more universal fedi if servers didn't let their users harass users on other servers (or spam hashtags) and if servers didn't defederate for speech that wasn't harassing (where nobody who didn't want to be was tagged etc).

     I say the latter constantly on my side of the divide (and probably get blocked or unfollowed for it). I don't know of anybody pushing for the former policy on your side.

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     william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 07:53:20 JST william.maggos

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     @monkyyy @DarrenNevares

     yes

     why do you have an account on poast?

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     monkyyy (monkyyy@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 07:53:21 JST monkyyy

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     @wjmaggos @DarrenNevares > I want a more politically diverse fedi.
     oh really? Can you see this?
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     Gabe (gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 07:54:19 JST Gabe

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     @LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
     What's funny about that infographic is that if the Fedi hit critical mass they would claim that the far right had taken over.
     The censorship apparatus they've rebuilt on mastodon is specifically designed to prevent the general public from being able to share unapproved thoughts of any kind.
     This is why these people love Bluesky, it's a formalization of this practice "Kinda open, but there's a final say".

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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 07:57:33 JST Fish of Rage

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     @wjmaggos @DarrenNevares @monkyyy so though to be clear I don't consider being an asshole to someone to be harassment but I try to prevent dogpiling. there is a problem though which is that dogpiling can happen by a group of people spread across many servers so one aggressive comment coming from my server might not be harassment by itself by my definition but is participating in harassment. over time I have realized this is an intractable problem if you allow people to express themselves.
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 08:03:59 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @StarProphet @DarrenNevares would
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     StarProphet (starprophet@noauthority.social)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 08:04:00 JST StarProphet

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     When I say transwomen are just mentally ill men in dresses, is that "disinformation"?

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     Linux Walt (@lnxw37j1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw37j1@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Friday, 30-May-2025 10:19:06 JST Linux Walt (@lnxw37j1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     @sun @darrennavares.mas.to
     
     There are some factual errors in that graphic.
     (1) Gab didn't leave the Fediverse because leftish instances blocked them, but because the instances that didn't block them mocked and harassed them.
     (2) Truth Social never attempted to federate. They removed that part of the Mastodon source right up front. (Source: Alex G, who was their lead dev for a while.)
     
     The other thing to consider is that the Fediverse is losing the user-recruitment contest to Bluesky and a big factor in that is that Fediblock means no one can be sure they'll be able to communicate with their desired contacts on another instance. (Nostr trumpets Fediblock "censorship" as a reason they're supposedly a better place to be.)
     
     In my opinion, relying on things like Fediblock has greatly delayed necessary things like automated spam-blocking and some sort of individual filters that are user-subscribable. (This one is a feature that Bluesky has, but in my time as a user there, I've never yet come across another filter provider.) Other than illegal content, admins should be very careful about blocking, because they're in a position of power relative to their users. I'm 100% not saying they shouldn't block anything that isn't illegal, but they should think about how doing so from their position of power affects their users before doing so.
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 02-Jun-2025 23:24:50 JST Rusty Crab

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     :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 02-Jun-2025 23:24:51 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄

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