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    David Revoy (davidrevoy@framapiaf.org)'s status on Sunday, 02-Mar-2025 05:09:32 JST David Revoy David Revoy

    How my Firefox became a LibreWolf

    New blog-post: https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1065/how-my-firefox-became-a-librewolf

    #firefox #librewolf #tos #webcomic

    In conversation about 3 months ago from framapiaf.org permalink

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      How my Firefox became a LibreWolf
      from David REVOY
    • iced depresso, Puniko ?, clacke and prettygood like this.
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      SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Sunday, 02-Mar-2025 05:44:00 JST SuperDicq SuperDicq
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      @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I now wonder what a GNU IceCat looks like.

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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Mar-2025 18:10:58 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      @SuperDicq @davidrevoy
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      SuperDicq repeated this.
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Mar-2025 21:57:44 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      @davidrevoy @Linux_Is_Best I'm not sure why you would write all that instead of writing that Vivaldi is proprietary malware (it is).
      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      David Revoy (davidrevoy@framapiaf.org)'s status on Sunday, 02-Mar-2025 21:57:45 JST David Revoy David Revoy
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      @Linux_Is_Best You know Vivaldi is not free/libre and open source software, right?

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      Moved to https://mk.absturztau.be/@Linux (linux_is_best@misskey.de)'s status on Sunday, 02-Mar-2025 21:57:47 JST Moved to https://mk.absturztau.be/@Linux Moved to https://mk.absturztau.be/@Linux
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      @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org As someone who used to help contribute to Firefox, and who, outside the development, made a Linux installer for Firefox ("Firefox Automatic Installer for Linux"), I absolutely hate LibreWolf. -- Why? 🤔

      LibreWorlf often breaks things (repeatedly). Then proceeds to blame Mozilla Firefox, even when Firefox was still good. They seldom took responsibility for their own issues and always passed the blame, despite those issues being exclusive to LibreWolf.

      This only further hurt Firefox, because you had all these people saying, "just use LibreWolf" while also saying, "Firefox is the problem." But LibreWolf 100% depends on Firefox. They're a soft-fork who has made it clear, they have no intention of ever going independent. That means, when Firefox goes, so does, LibreWolf.

      I switched to Vivaldi Browser. It is everything Firefox should have been. Yes, it is Chromium fork, but they do not follow along with everything Google does. Not only do they include their own ad-blocker, but they worked with uBlock to include v3 support going forward, that works nicely alongside their ad-blocker. I even use Privacy Badger alongside both.

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Sunday, 02-Mar-2025 23:37:43 JST SuperDicq SuperDicq
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      @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I would expect a GNU IceCat to be some sort of combination of a cat and a gnu tho

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      David Revoy (davidrevoy@framapiaf.org)'s status on Sunday, 02-Mar-2025 23:38:16 JST David Revoy David Revoy
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      @Suiseiseki @SuperDicq 😍 Big potential for artwork this blue IceCat 💙

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      Simon Zerafa (simonzerafa@infosec.exchange)'s status on Monday, 03-Mar-2025 00:15:36 JST Simon Zerafa Simon Zerafa
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      @davidrevoy

      @protonprivacy also flounced off Mastodon after they received well deserved criticism.

      Is @mozillaofficial doing the same? 🫤🤷♂️

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink

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      David Revoy (davidrevoy@framapiaf.org)'s status on Monday, 03-Mar-2025 00:15:36 JST David Revoy David Revoy
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      • Proton
      • Mozilla

      @simonzerafa @protonprivacy @mozillaofficial I'm not sure how official the account you linked here is, the branding feels off and it's not really noted in the bio this is their official new account.

      Before December, Mozilla had their instance, and decided to remove it ( src. https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/17/mozilla-exits-the-fediverse-and-will-shutter-its-mastodon-server-in-december/ )

      Proton also really manage their PR like rotten potatoes imo ( https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans/ )

      ... both company also abuse marketing bs wording and praise AI. Not surprising they are criticized here.

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink

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        Mozilla exits the fediverse and will shutter its Mastodon server in December | TechCrunch
        from Sarah Perez
        Users will be able to download their data or migrate their account to another Mastodon instance, if they choose.
      2. Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: theintercept.com
        Proton Mail Says It’s “Politically Neutral” While Praising Republican Party
        from Ben Muessig
        The “privacy-first” company surprised its user base when CEO Andy Yen lauded Trump on social media.
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      David Revoy (davidrevoy@framapiaf.org)'s status on Monday, 03-Mar-2025 00:15:45 JST David Revoy David Revoy
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      @BluesHarp But Vivaldi is not free/libre and open source software... This is even not an option on my operating system as it is really impossible to know what Vivaldi dev are doing with your data.

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      Mad Dog Ace Run (bluesharp@musicians.today)'s status on Monday, 03-Mar-2025 00:15:46 JST Mad Dog Ace Run Mad Dog Ace Run
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      @davidrevoy
      Vivaldi right now and it works great.

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 03-Mar-2025 17:55:55 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      • Moved to https://mk.absturztau.be/@Linux
      @Linux_Is_Best @davidrevoy It's actually possible to configure firefox to make 0 spying requests and as a result, if you install GNU icecat or Tor Browser, you don't get spied on.

      Auto update checking can be disabled on firefox, but I'm not sure about Brave or Vivaldi.

      >If you want safety and security and most importantly, privacy, you go with Vivaldi.
      You will never get safety, security or privacy with proprietary malware.
      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      Moved to https://mk.absturztau.be/@Linux (linux_is_best@misskey.de)'s status on Monday, 03-Mar-2025 17:55:57 JST Moved to https://mk.absturztau.be/@Linux Moved to https://mk.absturztau.be/@Linux
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      • 翠星石

      @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Because Firefox and Brave are open source malware, spyware, adware, and calls home like a lost child wanting their mother. And while Vivaldi is not open source, it calls out to check for updates, Widevine updates, and bug reports for a total of 3-4x in the whole day, as opposed to the 4x per hour or more that Firefox and Brave call out, continuously. If you want safety and security and most importantly, privacy, you go with Vivaldi.

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 03-Mar-2025 20:45:31 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      @Yoruka @davidrevoy @Linux_Is_Best It is impossible to trust proprietary malware and baiting with proprietary malware should cause a total loss of reputation (alas people don't know better).

      No browser should be proprietary, whether it uses chromium or not.

      No software should be proprietary.
      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      夜化 (yoruka@eientei.org)'s status on Monday, 03-Mar-2025 20:45:33 JST 夜化 夜化
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      • 翠星石
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      @Linux_Is_Best @davidrevoy @Suiseiseki I have 0 reasons to trust Vivaldi. They might have reputation and they make proper requests that's all nullified when the program is not free. A browser that merely uses Chromium should not be proprietary.
      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 03-Mar-2025 20:52:30 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      • 夜化
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      @Yoruka @davidrevoy @Linux_Is_Best There is no problem with selling free software; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html#selling

      If someone personally wrote a whole browser engine in GNU C, with full HTML5 support that doesn't support JavaScript, and released it under the AGPLv3-or-later, I'd be happy to pay $20 equivalent in XMR for a copy (although I might try it out from a copy shared from someone else first).

      Yes, the main reason why proprietary software developers refuse to make software even source-available is because doing so would reveal the malware.
      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink

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      夜化 (yoruka@eientei.org)'s status on Monday, 03-Mar-2025 20:52:32 JST 夜化 夜化
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      @Suiseiseki @davidrevoy @Linux_Is_Best I mean maybe you made a whole ass browser engine and you feel so proud about it you sell it for 20 bucks. Just know I and probably no person would ever use it. From what I hear the Vivaldi devs REJECT making the browser free which does make me wonder why. Probably because it contains undesirable code there is no other explanation.
      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 03-Mar-2025 21:08:45 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      @Yoruka @davidrevoy @Linux_Is_Best Free means freedom and has nothing to do with gratis (although you can easily construct; free of charge); https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html#four-freedoms

      Nonfree and proprietary are two words for the same things.

      You can make plenty of money with free software - whether that's custom software or support (few people even make money from binaries of free software, like Ardour, although such practice is now mostly obsolete, like icemen).

      Although, it is impossible to make a fortune and become a billionaire without multiple crimes against humanity, for example making software proprietary and for some reason people see becoming a billionaire as a good thing rather than a bad thing.
      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink

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        What is Free Software? - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation
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        Since 1983, developing the free Unix style operating system GNU, so that computer users can have the freedom to share and improve the software they use.
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      夜化 (yoruka@eientei.org)'s status on Monday, 03-Mar-2025 21:08:46 JST 夜化 夜化
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      @Suiseiseki @davidrevoy @Linux_Is_Best Oh you mean commercial software, I don't really know about that. If you can find a way to make money without purposefully fucking over your customers I'm fine with it
      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      夜化 (yoruka@eientei.org)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Mar-2025 11:18:35 JST 夜化 夜化
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      @Linux_Is_Best @davidrevoy @Suiseiseki Good software is software that doesn't abuse you. I cannot trust software that have something to hide in its source code
      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      Moved to https://mk.absturztau.be/@Linux (linux_is_best@misskey.de)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Mar-2025 11:18:37 JST Moved to https://mk.absturztau.be/@Linux Moved to https://mk.absturztau.be/@Linux
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      @Yoruka@eientei.org @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com I care about good software.

      Some good software is free, others paid, some are open source, and others are closed source. None of that determines if it is good or not.

      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Mar-2025 11:20:17 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      @Linux_Is_Best @davidrevoy @Yoruka You won't see this as you're a coward, but good software by definition needs to at least respect the user.

      Imagine defending proprietary software by referring to it as "closed source".
      In conversation about 3 months ago permalink

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